• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:24
CEST 14:24
KST 21:24
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters9[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism5Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?118Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over3New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!46
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism Nexon wins bid to develop StarCraft IP content, distribute Overwatch mobile game Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) SC4ALL: II Winner Will Earn a Spot at HSC 30! Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) 2026 GSTL Announcement Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 540 Dodge This
Brood War
General
Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon? [ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters ASL22 General Discussion Pros React To: Calm's Big Brain Play Vs Mini New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group B [Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2v2v2v2 Tournament [ASL22] Ro16 Group A
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread EVE Corporation Diablo IV [Maplestory Hardcore] Let's Play~!! General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
F* the Children and Get Off …
TrAiDoS
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Regacy Esports: The Bh…
regacyesports
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6668 users

League of Legends [New forum, check OP!] - Page 339

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 337 338 339 340 341 1431 Next
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
July 18 2010 20:42 GMT
#6761
imo when you duo queue, have one person play a jungler and the other person play a 1v2. if your mid is decent and your other lane doesnt completely feed, you should dominate the game (assuming you're truly that much better than your opponents)
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
BlackHat
Profile Joined April 2010
United States264 Posts
July 18 2010 20:51 GMT
#6762
So I just got into this game 2-3 weeks ago, and I think it's pretty awesome. I just hit level 15 yesterday and I seem to be doing really well.

I am worried that it won't last however, since I have been playing Cho'Gath using a guide I found called MFing Cho. I see a lot of people say this is only viable at low levels. So should I change my build to AP Cho like recommended on the guide here to make sure I can keep progressing? Or is tank Cho still viable and people are overstating how ineffective it is? Should I just switch to full time Mordekaiser?!

I usually build Regrowth pendant, Merc Treads, finish Warmogs, Guardian Angel, and then Atma's. If the game is still going by that point I usually consider a Starks or whatever would help the most.

I appreciate any thoughts or advice.
Borsalino for life.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 18 2010 20:52 GMT
#6763
Problem with Cho and Mord is that there's no incentive to attack them. So you can stack all the HP you want and no one will give a damn.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
July 18 2010 20:55 GMT
#6764
i dont see why people always say kat carries. yes she dominates mid early. but in the end game you need to have some decent teammates to setup a good DL for the kill. if you get your DL interrupted, its not like you can solo their whole team on BBs and shunpos. its not like yi where you can just farm up and in the end game just start steamrolling everything without opposition and minimal help.
Aurra
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States469 Posts
July 18 2010 20:57 GMT
#6765
Anyone willing to play with a low level? I'm getting a bit bored with solo queuing. All the games are generally complete stomps in one direction at my level. I don't know if queuing with others would change that at all but at least I'd have someone to talk to.

I'm currently level 11, 1-2 games from 12.

IGN is Talevi
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
July 18 2010 21:04 GMT
#6766
Mordekaiser is great for the level I play at. I can stand between their carry and ours and they'll focus me. I also get to charge my shield on all 5 of them, wear their carry down and get a pet, and even if my team melts around me beat their team 1v3.
Plus, you can push really fast and tear through anyone but fed DPS for the first 30 minutes or so.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
sixduck
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States301 Posts
July 18 2010 21:06 GMT
#6767
can anyone clarify the 21pt utility mastery talent for me? its just 15% off of CDs right?
Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
July 18 2010 21:08 GMT
#6768
On July 19 2010 06:06 sixduck wrote:
can anyone clarify the 21pt utility mastery talent for me? its just 15% off of CDs right?


only on summoner skills
Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
July 18 2010 21:42 GMT
#6769
Which is great since Summoner Spells are very valuable. In some cases it´s better then the specialised Spell mastery. But the 21 Masteries are not THAT important, no one suggests it but going for the 9 Point Masteries ergo 10/10/10 is actually quite effective especially if you are jungling.
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
July 18 2010 21:50 GMT
#6770
On July 19 2010 05:34 NB wrote:
both Ez and Kayle are champs that works well in team fight and if your team screw up, you lose. try to play some thing like annie, heim, yi(backdoor style), and through in you list some tanks since your team might need tanks as your turn to pick!!!

most people who are at the last 2 slots in a ranked game forced to picks tanker if the 1st 3 try to play some funky fancy champs so keep noticed!!!

even annie can't win games by herself if you're stuck with shitty teammates
18-5-12 last game, 12 min RoA so it wasn't all late kills, and we still got our shit pushed in
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 18 2010 22:00 GMT
#6771
HotShotGG just played a game that makes me now save 3150 IP for Nidalee :/
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
BlackHat
Profile Joined April 2010
United States264 Posts
July 18 2010 22:00 GMT
#6772
On July 19 2010 05:52 Southlight wrote:
Problem with Cho and Mord is that there's no incentive to attack them. So you can stack all the HP you want and no one will give a damn.


So if I built him AP style with some -CD so I could WER more often and for more damage, would that provide incentive to kill him? I mean it is almost never good to try and kill the tank before the squishies, but if you can silence them and then pop them up with rupture for a stun and slow, plus feast doing over 800 dmg, it seems like you would at least want to blow a couple cooldowns on him.
Borsalino for life.
sixduck
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States301 Posts
July 18 2010 22:05 GMT
#6773
On July 19 2010 06:08 Orpheos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2010 06:06 sixduck wrote:
can anyone clarify the 21pt utility mastery talent for me? its just 15% off of CDs right?


only on summoner skills


I see, thanks. After I reread it after your explanation I had an "oooooooooohhhhhhh" moment.

HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 18 2010 22:11 GMT
#6774
On July 19 2010 07:00 Shikyo wrote:
HotShotGG just played a game that makes me now save 3150 IP for Nidalee :/

She's free next week afaik.
Which is gonna suck so hard. Worse than free twitch week imo.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
July 18 2010 22:11 GMT
#6775
On July 19 2010 07:00 Shikyo wrote:
HotShotGG just played a game that makes me now save 3150 IP for Nidalee :/

Haha, saw that, pretty much carried his team to win, lol.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
July 18 2010 22:12 GMT
#6776
Anyone else here think that Kogmaw is the most underappreciated champion, since Gragas first game out?
In the woods, there lurks..
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
July 18 2010 22:31 GMT
#6777
On July 19 2010 07:00 Shikyo wrote:
HotShotGG just played a game that makes me now save 3150 IP for Nidalee :/


He's played her so much, it's pretty evident in his play that he is extremely aware of her limitations(or lack there of in some cases).
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
July 18 2010 22:38 GMT
#6778
On July 19 2010 05:51 BlackHat wrote:
So I just got into this game 2-3 weeks ago, and I think it's pretty awesome. I just hit level 15 yesterday and I seem to be doing really well.

I am worried that it won't last however, since I have been playing Cho'Gath using a guide I found called MFing Cho. I see a lot of people say this is only viable at low levels. So should I change my build to AP Cho like recommended on the guide here to make sure I can keep progressing? Or is tank Cho still viable and people are overstating how ineffective it is? Should I just switch to full time Mordekaiser?!

I usually build Regrowth pendant, Merc Treads, finish Warmogs, Guardian Angel, and then Atma's. If the game is still going by that point I usually consider a Starks or whatever would help the most.

I appreciate any thoughts or advice.

The MFing Chogath sucks cock.

Seriously, it hasn't been updated in over 6 months, the skill build is terrible, the item build is bad, and people really only think it's a good guide because he's like "so the enemy think he can kill u? NO FEAST HIS F*ING ASS UR TEH MFING CHOGATH NOM NOM NOM".

The funny thing about his build is just the way it's written makes people think it's good. Seriously though, get rupture first, go QEQEQR then R>Q>W>E. Not putting points into scream until level 15 or whatever is just soooooooooo bad.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
July 18 2010 22:49 GMT
#6779
I'm lv 15 now
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
July 18 2010 23:34 GMT
#6780
On July 19 2010 05:42 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
imo when you duo queue, have one person play a jungler and the other person play a 1v2. if your mid is decent and your other lane doesnt completely feed, you should dominate the game (assuming you're truly that much better than your opponents)

Yeah this is what I do as well.. It's a very good approach
wat
Prev 1 337 338 339 340 341 1431 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Kung Fu Cup
11:00
2026 Week 22
IntoTheiNu 1346
WardiTV458
RotterdaM339
IndyStarCraft 134
TKL 126
Rex91
SteadfastSC89
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko401
RotterdaM 339
IndyStarCraft 134
ProTech133
TKL 126
Rex 91
SteadfastSC 89
StarCraft: Brood War
Bisu 5462
Jaedong 2545
Soulkey 1792
Horang2 1057
Mini 654
BeSt 555
Hyuk 505
Light 391
Snow 338
EffOrt 225
[ Show more ]
Barracks 155
firebathero 149
Last 148
Stork 132
Pusan 93
JYJ 66
PianO 60
soO 59
hero 54
Mind 41
sSak 39
ToSsGirL 36
Bale 33
Sharp 27
Hm[arnc] 26
Terrorterran 22
Sacsri 14
910 12
ZergMaN 12
ajuk12(nOOB) 9
SilentControl 9
scan(afreeca) 8
Icarus 7
Dota 2
Dendi1341
syndereN912
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1602
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox601
Other Games
singsing2143
crisheroes370
Happy267
DeMusliM194
XaKoH 153
Sick118
ArmadaUGS36
B2W.Neo7
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 48
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV610
League of Legends
• Jankos2213
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
11h 36m
The PondCast
21h 36m
KCM Race Survival
21h 36m
OSC
1d 10h
Escore
1d 21h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 22h
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
4 days
Spirit vs Mixu
Clem vs TBD
RSL Revival
4 days
Serral vs Rogue
[ Show More ]
BlizzCon
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
GSL
5 days
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-09-08
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
RSL Revival: Season 6
Calamity Invitational
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: King of Kings
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.