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SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
June 11 2010 14:55 GMT
#501
Anyone on right now that wants to play? Add me IGN: "Lotus Dance"
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
June 11 2010 15:13 GMT
#502
Well I just started LoL yesterday, but I'm 102-16-24 with him, I guess I'm not playing any good players yet. He seems to literally instantly kill almost any hero and can defensively lane quite well.
FraCuS
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1072 Posts
June 11 2010 15:22 GMT
#503
IGN, FraCuS

:D
Apink/Girl's Day/miss A/IU/Crayon Pop/Sistar/Exo K :D l Kpop and Kdrama Enthusiast
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
June 11 2010 15:34 GMT
#504
so I am curious

when I play a 5v5 through the matchmaking system, am i playing with summoners of all levels?
pokeyAA
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States936 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-11 15:41:49
June 11 2010 15:40 GMT
#505
You can be playing against summoners ranging from like 1-30 probably, it all depends on their ELO.

Its why you hear people complaining all the time that their level 10 summoner is fighting level 30s.

Once you get a pretty good Elo, you start facing off against all 30's.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-11 15:48:10
June 11 2010 15:46 GMT
#506
On June 11 2010 17:24 Epistemic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2010 17:00 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
On June 11 2010 14:23 redtooth wrote:
On June 11 2010 14:10 Juicyfruit wrote:
Watching redtooth playing TF on livestream right now, hohohoho.
carrying so hard with AP TF haha.

yo 1hit1der was nuts.


I thought AP TF was nerfed?
Is it still viable?

They nerfed AP TF a bunch, but made attack speed TF very strong; I haven't paid attention to the last patch notes for him all that much, but a friend informed me that they are buffing AP TF again. The nerf didn't make AP bad on TF, it just made going AP on him weaker than it used to be.
AP TF is absolute shit. i was toying around that game and did zero damage to the other team. really he sucks during lane, sucks during midgame, and probably sucks during lategame. didn't realize i was being streamed until rad told me afterwards. HOWEVER, arcerms pulls it (AP TF) off pretty consistently. dunno how really, i copied his build and did terrible.

edit: i was planning on playing AP TF with gozey's premade but turns out he hates me :-(
I WOULD HAVE CARRIED YOU GUYS WITH MY MAD DPS
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
June 11 2010 15:55 GMT
#507
On June 12 2010 00:40 pokeyAA wrote:
You can be playing against summoners ranging from like 1-30 probably, it all depends on their ELO.

Its why you hear people complaining all the time that their level 10 summoner is fighting level 30s.

Once you get a pretty good Elo, you start facing off against all 30's.


oh I think that's actually kind of cool
gives bad players with high lvl summoner a chance for more evenly matched games
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
June 11 2010 16:03 GMT
#508
On June 12 2010 00:55 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2010 00:40 pokeyAA wrote:
You can be playing against summoners ranging from like 1-30 probably, it all depends on their ELO.

Its why you hear people complaining all the time that their level 10 summoner is fighting level 30s.

Once you get a pretty good Elo, you start facing off against all 30's.


oh I think that's actually kind of cool
gives bad players with high lvl summoner a chance for more evenly matched games

Also makes up ALOT of QQ when other people rage at terrible lvl 30's.
In the woods, there lurks..
phase
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States399 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-11 16:13:23
June 11 2010 16:12 GMT
#509
On June 12 2010 00:46 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2010 17:24 Epistemic wrote:
On June 11 2010 17:00 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
On June 11 2010 14:23 redtooth wrote:
On June 11 2010 14:10 Juicyfruit wrote:
Watching redtooth playing TF on livestream right now, hohohoho.
carrying so hard with AP TF haha.

yo 1hit1der was nuts.


I thought AP TF was nerfed?
Is it still viable?

They nerfed AP TF a bunch, but made attack speed TF very strong; I haven't paid attention to the last patch notes for him all that much, but a friend informed me that they are buffing AP TF again. The nerf didn't make AP bad on TF, it just made going AP on him weaker than it used to be.
AP TF is absolute shit. i was toying around that game and did zero damage to the other team. really he sucks during lane, sucks during midgame, and probably sucks during lategame. didn't realize i was being streamed until rad told me afterwards. HOWEVER, arcerms pulls it (AP TF) off pretty consistently. dunno how really, i copied his build and did terrible.

edit: i was planning on playing AP TF with gozey's premade but turns out he hates me :-(
I WOULD HAVE CARRIED YOU GUYS WITH MY MAD DPS


Lol. I've been toying around with builds for AP TF a la pre-nerf, but all I can say is FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU-

Yea, I haven't found a build that facerolls yet. Only builds that suck - which leads me to believe either I suck or AP TF sucks, and probably both.

Anyways, I'll keep trying it until i get back to +50, but that may be a long time
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
June 11 2010 16:15 GMT
#510
On June 11 2010 23:44 GG.Win wrote:
Kennen is so overpowered -_-


Lol wat. Kennen is a total dodo bird. It's Garren that I can't stand. Seriously f*** that guy with a brick.

Jumping on me and doing 90% of my health instantly at level 1. Wtf.
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
matthewfoulkes
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom246 Posts
June 11 2010 16:41 GMT
#511
i feel lonely on the Eu server, is it worth swapping? Im eu.
Lies? I Dont Tell lies! Thats no lie!
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-11 16:57:51
June 11 2010 16:49 GMT
#512
K the problem with AP TF is: you cannot level up pick a card (past one anyways). Wild card alone hardly provides the oomf needed to do...anything, so you still need stacked deck(which also scales with AP, albeit poorly). Problem is, this is hardly taking advantage of TF's signature skill, since you're stuck using red cards as your source of cc for most of the game. My ping is too high to play TF at the moment but I imagine the build would go something like:

-Flash or cleanse
-Exhaust

W,E,E,Q,E,R and then E > Q > W > R

Itemwise, it'd probably be:

- boots, doran's ring, or dagger
- finish stinger
- finish mercs/sorc boots/tabi's
- finish guinsoo
- finish nashor's

Lich bane or bashee's veil luxury item if you're winning. A little glass cannon considering you don't have the stun, so you better have a really good tank to be able to contribute in teamfights.

At the moment though, I don't see the real attraction of going AP TF.

Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-11 16:53:59
June 11 2010 16:52 GMT
#513
As long as you Red Card it (which you should with AP anyways) you don't need to level PAC past 1.

redtooth you'll love this:
[image loading]

Sukka badmouthing! Ohhhh snap!
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-11 16:56:54
June 11 2010 16:55 GMT
#514
Wait... is leveling destiny past 1 even worth it? It does nothing but reduce the cooldown by 15 seconds ...out of 150 and reducing the mana cost -shrug-.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
June 11 2010 16:57 GMT
#515
On June 12 2010 01:49 Juicyfruit wrote:
K the problem with AP TF is: you cannot level up pick a card (past one anyways). Wild card alone hardly provides the oomf needed to do...anything, so you still need stacked deck(which also scales with AP, albeit poorly). Problem is, this is hardly taking advantage of TF's signature skill, since you're stuck using red cards as your source of cc for most of the game. My ping is too high to play TF at the moment but I imagine the build would go something like:
no nashors is the wrong thing to go. arcerms goes haunting guise + rylais so he doesn't get insta-gibbed. he also levels WC pretty early too. the attraction of going AP TF is that it sucks but when you win you can rub it in their face.

to utahime: sukka is bad, yes. but the sad thing is there is truth in what he said. cornsalad is bad too.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-11 16:59:31
June 11 2010 16:58 GMT
#516
But if you go rylai and haunting guise....you're like...doing...nothing >.> Rylai doesn't even make sense with pick a card because you're slowing them down DURING a stun.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
June 11 2010 17:07 GMT
#517
On June 12 2010 01:58 Juicyfruit wrote:
But if you go rylai and haunting guise....you're like...doing...nothing >.> Rylai doesn't even make sense with pick a card because you're slowing them down DURING a stun.
if you get nashors and get in range to hit someone you're gonna die instantly. the way arcerms played was that he would kite the team and just put out AoE slow until the crowd thinned out and he would come in for gold/red carding. gold card ratio is the same as red card ratio btw. the base dmg is the only difference.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-11 17:15:35
June 11 2010 17:12 GMT
#518
Hmm that's actually interesting. I never thought of wild card as a good crowd dispersal tool. I'm a little dubious as to how often you can hit people with it though...

However, it still doesn't explain why he needs the HP if he's just kiting and gold/red carding the people that are out of position. Frankly, for all that HP, I'd rather just toss my red card faster so I can gtfo half a second sooner.

Unless..does he aim his gold card at the squishies in the back or something?
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
June 11 2010 17:34 GMT
#519
On June 12 2010 02:12 Juicyfruit wrote:
Hmm that's actually interesting. I never thought of wild card as a good crowd dispersal tool. I'm a little dubious as to how often you can hit people with it though...

However, it still doesn't explain why he needs the HP if he's just kiting and gold/red carding the people that are out of position. Frankly, for all that HP, I'd rather just toss my red card faster so I can gtfo half a second sooner.

Unless..does he aim his gold card at the squishies in the back or something?
even with the bonus HP people are going to make a beeline for him.

but why are we arguing about this? he's a terrible character lol.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
June 11 2010 17:43 GMT
#520
Hahah yeah he is . I am just having a really hard time imagining how this style of TF is played.
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