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RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
June 11 2010 07:48 GMT
#481
My teams never seem to think "oh they have a jungler. Therefore, they get more gold and exp than us". The expect to be on even footing by laning normally.

I can't help but think I'd we'd be #1 in everything LoL if there were just 5 me's.
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
June 11 2010 08:00 GMT
#482
On June 11 2010 14:23 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2010 14:10 Juicyfruit wrote:
Watching redtooth playing TF on livestream right now, hohohoho.
carrying so hard with AP TF haha.

yo 1hit1der was nuts.


I thought AP TF was nerfed?
Is it still viable?
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
Epistemic
Profile Joined June 2010
United States13 Posts
June 11 2010 08:24 GMT
#483
On June 11 2010 16:48 RoieTRS wrote:
My teams never seem to think "oh they have a jungler. Therefore, they get more gold and exp than us". The expect to be on even footing by laning normally.

I can't help but think I'd we'd be #1 in everything LoL if there were just 5 me's.

The only problem with having a jungler, is your teammate who is in the solo lane has to be good enough to take advantage of the exp/gold bonus they get.

On June 11 2010 17:00 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2010 14:23 redtooth wrote:
On June 11 2010 14:10 Juicyfruit wrote:
Watching redtooth playing TF on livestream right now, hohohoho.
carrying so hard with AP TF haha.

yo 1hit1der was nuts.


I thought AP TF was nerfed?
Is it still viable?

They nerfed AP TF a bunch, but made attack speed TF very strong; I haven't paid attention to the last patch notes for him all that much, but a friend informed me that they are buffing AP TF again. The nerf didn't make AP bad on TF, it just made going AP on him weaker than it used to be.
Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-11 09:13:57
June 11 2010 08:35 GMT
#484
Maintenance again? Server was down 2 days ago. Fri tues n fri again arghhh..

I need another game.

Edit: Gonna give EU a shot. Just hope I dont lag out lol.
I don't want to be part everything. I want to be something. - Weapon X
zergnewb
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States816 Posts
June 11 2010 09:06 GMT
#485
I love this game. But I am way short of RAM and my mom won't buy anymore because my grades weren't good enough. T.T
Welcome to the Durst-Zone
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
June 11 2010 09:15 GMT
#486
On June 11 2010 12:59 Mazer wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks void staff is not worth it in most situations?

If you take sorc's boots and have ~11-20 magic pen from runes, you practically cancel out any inherent magic resist that champs have. Since you should be targetting squishies, all that's usually left is the merc treads that a lot of carries take. That 40% penetration from void staff comes in after the runes/boots penetration so at best it might be 10 pen that you're getting with it. I guess there's the chance of banshee's and aegis in addition to the merc treads but in most situations, I find just going for Zhonya's is better.

Oh shit. Void staff 40% applies AFTER your other magic pen?
..
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
snpnx
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany454 Posts
June 11 2010 09:19 GMT
#487
totally unrelated to current discussion, but thanks for the OP. I've been just coming a bit into LoL and it was a good read for me
"Language is Freeware, in that it's free to use, but it's not Open Source, so you can't just change things how you like."
Nailpolish
Profile Joined June 2010
United States56 Posts
June 11 2010 09:55 GMT
#488
US name, Aaerox.
What day and time are the inhouses usually?
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
June 11 2010 09:59 GMT
#489
On June 11 2010 18:15 HeavOnEarth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2010 12:59 Mazer wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks void staff is not worth it in most situations?

If you take sorc's boots and have ~11-20 magic pen from runes, you practically cancel out any inherent magic resist that champs have. Since you should be targetting squishies, all that's usually left is the merc treads that a lot of carries take. That 40% penetration from void staff comes in after the runes/boots penetration so at best it might be 10 pen that you're getting with it. I guess there's the chance of banshee's and aegis in addition to the merc treads but in most situations, I find just going for Zhonya's is better.

Oh shit. Void staff 40% applies AFTER your other magic pen?
..


Only since recently. That's why void staff and last whisper aren't so good now. Ghostblade or starks for attack speed and armor pen is the only way to go.
kyzers0ze
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Singapore1073 Posts
June 11 2010 11:08 GMT
#490
bloody fuck dps janna on my team made us lose fuck this shit
8==========))
kyzers0ze
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Singapore1073 Posts
June 11 2010 11:32 GMT
#491
turns out i only win with twitch wtf
8==========))
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
June 11 2010 12:07 GMT
#492
On June 11 2010 16:07 Juicyfruit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2010 15:25 Epistemic wrote:
On June 11 2010 14:26 redtooth wrote:
question: does sheen's passive proc at 120% of the 80% (due to Q's buff)? or does it still do normal 80%.

Well they nerfed Sheen a while ago to deal 80% extra base damage on your next attack. It used to be 100%. It also procs on some moves that count as modifying basic attacks, such as TF's pick a card, and Poppy's/Ezreal's Q.

Hope this helped, not sure what you mean by 120% and Kennen's Q, or maybe I'm just misunderstanding completely.


He's talking about ezreal. Like, how exactly is sheen's damage counted.

Logically, first sheen's 80% is added onto your base damage. That means your "temporary AD" is Base + 80% of Base + Whatever AD you get from other sources

The 120% would probably be applied to the "temporary AD" thereafter.


No that's not how it works.

This is what happens:

You cast a spell (in this case mystic shot) and sheen procs, making your next attack deal 80% of your attack damage in addition to damage it would normally do.

Mystic shot hits the enemy dealing AD * 1.2 + X + AD * 0.8

or

Mystic shot misses and you auto attack something dealing AD + 0.8 * AD. If your attack crits it deals AD * 2.0 + AD * 0.8.


Nothing affects the amount of damage dealt via a sheen proc. It just adds a flat amount of damage on to your attack after everything else is calculated.
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
June 11 2010 12:25 GMT
#493
Makes sense, but sheen always appears to give more damage than it should with ezreal. I dunno..
ldrs
Profile Joined March 2010
United States31 Posts
June 11 2010 13:34 GMT
#494
I just hit level 30 like two days ago and bought Ezreal and I am enjoying him very much. I won like 4 out of 5 games I've played with him so far building him AD.

I start with a meki pendant since I don't have mana regen runes yet and HPots early on and then building a chalice, boots, brutalizer, sheen, and then maybe infinity edge or triforce in that order. Is this bad? Is sword of the occult a decent item to get if I'm doing well?


The one game I've lost as Ez so far was because the other team had one of those healing compositions that's so popular these days and my team couldn't keep up. I went solomid against another Ezreal who went AP. We traded shots every once in a while and just kept the minions at the river with neither of us ever getting low and then suddenly he left the lane and I called MIA to my team and then they died to him anyways.

What was I supposed to do when he left the lane to gank? Should I keep farming or try to follow him to the lane he was going to? Even though my team fed his soulstealer to 20 I felt kind of guilty because he left the lane to gank (I called MIA of course) and I just stayed at mid to farm and left to gank like 2 or 3 times while he was roaming like mad.
Game ended with him at 11/0 and me at 6/2.

Maybe I should play AP ez?
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-11 13:51:54
June 11 2010 13:43 GMT
#495
Re: Kassadin
I think he's become much more viable now than several months ago. He's a hard-counter to some of the top "OP" heroes (Jax, Nidalee, Ezreal) and he's no longer as likely to get punished for being a vulture. Just make sure you're playing him right (leveling E over Q).

Re: Fort Ashe vs Mana Ashe
With Fort Ashe you can pretty much literally right-click on their Ashe and win. Like, literally, you'll push them out of the lane and gg. All that mana is useless particularly early on because Volley's cooldown is too crappy at low levels.

Re: Sheen
I believe Sheen makes you do something close to a sum of 3x damage for Ezreal. That's how it works on Blitzcrank's Powerfist, which is why Sheen + Pfist = WHAM, especially on crits (cuz then you do like 4.8x damage as you get 2x for the normal crit, another 2x from Pfist because it just flat-out doubles your damage, then another .8 from Sheen).

Oh, also, Re: TF
I actually think AP TF was highly underrated even before the recent patch, but now that they "fixed" WC's AP ratio it's very much viable, if not possibly even better than standard AS TF because he gets so much better lane control. The last few TFs that have pummeled me have all been AP/AS hybrid TF with crap like Sheen and Hextech and GRB. WC really hurts.

Finally,
On June 11 2010 18:15 HeavOnEarth wrote:
Oh shit. Void staff 40% applies AFTER your other magic pen?
..


They changed it a couple patches ago; flat penetration no longer works after percentage, instead it's been lumped together with reduction, to make reducing down to 0 close to impossible.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
June 11 2010 14:29 GMT
#496
I don't have magic pen runes though (only lvl 7), so would void staff still be worth it for me?



Looks like you missed this:

On June 11 2010 11:03 trace wm wrote:
I forgot to add myself to the userlist though:

Summoner name: spiderland. List me as TL account myopia (I'm waiting for a name change)


it's my first day
Baikinman
Profile Joined January 2010
United States74 Posts
June 11 2010 14:40 GMT
#497
DID I SEE BLITZCRANK BUFF!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?

Finally they stopped nerfing him!!!
はっひふっへほ~♪
Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
June 11 2010 14:44 GMT
#498
Kennen is so overpowered -_-
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
June 11 2010 14:53 GMT
#499
On June 11 2010 23:44 GG.Win wrote:
Kennen is so overpowered -_-


Lolwhat?

The only awesome thing about him is his stuns.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
Louder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States2276 Posts
June 11 2010 14:54 GMT
#500
On June 11 2010 23:44 GG.Win wrote:
Kennen is so overpowered -_-


Like many heroes, you need good CC or enough burst to outright insta kill him. He's no worse than many others.
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