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Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
July 11 2010 04:39 GMT
#5141
So my rune setup for TF/Fiddles

Red - Magic Pen
Yellow - MP/5
Blue - CD Reduction
Quintessences - Not sure, I got one AP/Level and one CD reduction. I heard flat HP quints is good for support/casters?
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
July 11 2010 04:54 GMT
#5142
Flat HP is good on pretty much everyone that doesn't need MS, you definitely want 3 for your casters.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5459 Posts
July 11 2010 04:56 GMT
#5143
flat HP quints are good for not dying during laning. but as you learn how to lane properly, you'll find yourself not needing them more and more. you can't go wrong with more health but aPen and movespeed are two of my favorites that i feel are superior in a vast number of cases.
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Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
July 11 2010 05:03 GMT
#5144
Are the rest of my runes good, the MP, MP5, and CD?
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-11 05:05:25
July 11 2010 05:04 GMT
#5145
well theres not much u can do when u get double stunned in a lane, ganked by a jungler , or just nuked in mid by annie, other than having enough hp to either deter them from even trying, or to just live through the gank
Quite personally, if i see someone mid with no hp quints or hp item, they get zoned from the start, automatically, because without that extra hp they will never win a 1v1 confrontation right away.
(in general)
Obviously opening red pot negates all of this.
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
G0dly
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States450 Posts
July 11 2010 05:05 GMT
#5146
kat + mumu + pirate + pantheon = lulz

all I have to say
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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
July 11 2010 05:05 GMT
#5147
I'm going with flat energy regen quints for my Shen + Kennen
it's my first day
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
July 11 2010 05:06 GMT
#5148
On July 11 2010 14:05 G0dly wrote:
kat + mumu + pirate + pantheon = lulz

all I have to say

I guess if u have pirate 1v2 and mumu jungle. , panth mid + kat lane with someone good.
otherwise u guys are gonna get stomped all over during the laning phase :O
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11766 Posts
July 11 2010 05:10 GMT
#5149
On July 11 2010 14:04 HeavOnEarth wrote:
well theres not much u can do when u get double stunned in a lane, ganked by a jungler , or just nuked in mid by annie, other than having enough hp to either deter them from even trying, or to just live through the gank
Quite personally, if i see someone mid with no hp quints or hp item, they get zoned from the start, automatically, because without that extra hp they will never win a 1v1 confrontation right away.
(in general)
Obviously opening red pot negates all of this.


Aye, if you're playing a character with zoning power and you notice they have lower HP than they should, you get ON them.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 11 2010 05:33 GMT
#5150
On July 11 2010 14:10 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2010 14:04 HeavOnEarth wrote:
well theres not much u can do when u get double stunned in a lane, ganked by a jungler , or just nuked in mid by annie, other than having enough hp to either deter them from even trying, or to just live through the gank
Quite personally, if i see someone mid with no hp quints or hp item, they get zoned from the start, automatically, because without that extra hp they will never win a 1v1 confrontation right away.
(in general)
Obviously opening red pot negates all of this.


Aye, if you're playing a character with zoning power and you notice they have lower HP than they should, you get ON them.

What exactly is a champion with zoning power?
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11766 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-11 05:40:29
July 11 2010 05:38 GMT
#5151
For instance, I had a Kassadin vs Anivia solo top lane a week ago, and with Quints + Ring I had like 750 HP. Flipside, Anivia had no quints and opened with Meki, so she had ~450. Kassadin's a zoning hero because he outputs a great deal of ranged spell-damage (that doesn't draw creep aggro), and with two burst spells and decent mobility, if he's ahead he'll just threaten you out of the lane, and if you're weaker and you try to stay he'll chip down your HP and/or kill you outright. To no one's real surprise (except maybe the Anivia) I went after him from level 1, spamming Sphere and going for the auto-attacks, and the spell/attack damage he did back didn't make up for the 300 hp differential :p By the time I hit level 6 he was level 4, and I just started chain-killing him. Moral of the lesson? Don't go in against a hero that can zone you out with significantly less HP.

Heroes like Trist and Nidalee aren't as hard-core zoning champions because they have to auto-attacking you to "zone you out" of exp range, and doing so causes them to get hammered by creep, so they can poke you out of exp range (which you can time with the imminent death of siege creep) but they usually can't just sit there in the middle of your creep pushing you out.

Edit:
Annie's a hero with zoning power because when she has her stun up she can chain-nuke you and walk away, and at level 6 if you're at or under a certain level of HP you absolutely cannot let her get in range. I guess the TL;DR version is that a zoning hero is one that has a certain damage range that you really want to avoid walking into, because once you enter that range you take a "ridiculous" amount of damage, one that you can't keep up with.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
July 11 2010 05:44 GMT
#5152
Zoning with Mord is so awkward
you have to balance hitting them with keeping your shield up, while not letting your health get too low from ability overuse. I didn't realize just how much health his E cost until I nearly killed myself idly spamming it lol.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11766 Posts
July 11 2010 05:45 GMT
#5153
Mord can't really zone, he just bashes down creep and ignores damage unless the opponent has sustained damage that can come from AROUND the creep. That's why the key to playing against a Mord is to stay away from your creep - if you stand away, then he's forced to make a decision between hitting you (inefficient) and hitting the creep, which further leads to be zoned out by heroes like Ashe (who will just start poking at you from the side).
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
July 11 2010 06:12 GMT
#5154
Just started today. After a few practice games I tried my first pub. I wasn't any good so after 10 minutes of being called a faggot, idiot kid, and being told all the various ways in which my team-mates had intercourse with my mother; I left.

My SN is KingStork if anyone wants to add me. I'm bad, but I'm gonna keep playing practice games until I'm good enough to not be consistently insulted :3
RIP Aaliyah
Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
July 11 2010 06:13 GMT
#5155
have you guys played with someone called NamiNameda? just solo que-ed with him and hes got 1000 wins with +100wins. i have no idea what MM was doing matching him with me. he played panth on a side lane with me. i guess he was pretty good. he def carried us abit. we had a leaver, but we had heimer, fed panth, shen as tank and me as kayle baby sitting panth so it all went well.
pokeyAA
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States936 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-11 06:14:33
July 11 2010 06:13 GMT
#5156
its come to my knowledge that

1.) No one in TL is in the Top 500
2.) Half of the top 500 left for the Euro servers, so the remaining 250 that filled those slots dont deserve it.

Ahh the joys of the LiquidParty channel. Why the hell am I llstening to any advice here then, none of you are even in the top 500 pff.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
July 11 2010 06:17 GMT
#5157
On July 11 2010 15:13 pokeyAA wrote:
its come to my knowledge that

1.) No one in TL is in the Top 500
2.) Half of the top 500 left for the Euro servers, so the remaining 250 that filled those slots dont deserve it.

Ahh the joys of eurotrash. Why the hell am I llstening to any advice here then, none of you are even in the top 500 pff.


fixed
Brees on in
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5459 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-11 06:36:04
July 11 2010 06:28 GMT
#5158
On July 11 2010 15:13 pokeyAA wrote:
its come to my knowledge that

1.) No one in TL is in the Top 500
2.) Half of the top 500 left for the Euro servers, so the remaining 250 that filled those slots dont deserve it.

Ahh the joys of the LiquidParty channel. Why the hell am I llstening to any advice here then, none of you are even in the top 500 pff.
wat? if you're talking about our euro representation then that's seperate from LiquidParty... Neo is definitely in top 500 and i'm pretty sure yiruru, Brees and I make it as well. i wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of others like utahime, rad, smash, etc make it too.

edit: also i wouldn't be surprised if there were 500 people at the ELO cap and it's just whoever ended on a win that week.
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shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
July 11 2010 06:28 GMT
#5159
On July 11 2010 15:13 pokeyAA wrote:
its come to my knowledge that

1.) No one in TL is in the Top 500
2.) Half of the top 500 left for the Euro servers, so the remaining 250 that filled those slots dont deserve it.

Ahh the joys of the LiquidParty channel. Why the hell am I llstening to any advice here then, none of you are even in the top 500 pff.


lets talk in + wins then haha.

southlight/brees those guys are like +100

im +79 on my main

i think +wins loss is a pretty damn good way of determining skill
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
July 11 2010 06:32 GMT
#5160
I wish I would hurry up and get to 30 to start to see how good/bad I am. I just started playing Karth and I have a 2:1 K/D and W/L but Meh only lvl 18.
Never Knows Best.
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