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On July 08 2010 01:01 GTR wrote:
just played my first game with ezrael and i did alright.
just wondering what times are appropriate to go triple-snowball builds?
was playing ad and had ghostblade (for cd), zerk boots, infi edge + the 3 snowball items but it was too late for them to start stacking up.
I'm not the nest ezreal ever but I do have a good build,
Dorans Blade, Brutalizer, Sheen, Bloodthrister, Bloodthirster.
I use to start with a Long Sword but the bonuses from Dorans Blade help a lot early game.
I lvl, q,e,q,e,q,r and then R > Q > W > E
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On July 08 2010 01:21 Juicyfruit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2010 01:01 GTR wrote:
just played my first game with ezrael and i did alright.
just wondering what times are appropriate to go triple-snowball builds?
was playing ad and had ghostblade (for cd), zerk boots, infi edge + the 3 snowball items but it was too late for them to start stacking up. You should give my AD ezreal build a shot: - boots + 3 health potions - longsword and pickaxe - upgrade boots and recursive bow - finish bloodrazor - work towards trinity force cleanse/ignite 13/17/0 hp/armor pen/mp5/cdr bloodrazor imo is a better investment over infinities edge for ezreal, as mystic shot applies the on-hit effect. This makes you supremely imba with poking and straight-up fighting once you get it.
I think i might try this out, I didn't exactly realize bloodrazor's on-hit effect applied lol.
At the moment i usually go for brutalizer, boots and then stacking bloodthirsters. 0/21/9 or 15/15/0, flash/ignite and hp/armor pen/dodge(might switch)/mp5lvl.
EDIT: lol i play exactly as Brees suggested. i type too slowly and while i quoted this, everyone posted...
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Bloodthisters just sound really bad. Against a 2000HP target, bloodthister would boost your mystic shot by (100 x 1.1) = 110 damage. This is assuming it's fully charged, which is a bad assumption to make. Don't really care about the lifesteal.
bloodRAZOR would boost mystic shot by 35 x (1.1) + 2000 x (0.04) = 118.5 damage, without having it fully charged, for only 600 more gold. Oh and it gives 40% attack speed and 30 armor.
Now consider that you're far more likely to poke a tank with your mystic shot.
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you should probably care about the lifesteal, and if we had invested in a sheen early, the returns on your mystic shot from AD improve considerably. add into that that we're now focused on one type of damage (physical) rather than 2, and we can invest into more focused penetration.
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The thing about sheen is, it only increases damage by 80% of BASE damage. It doesn`t scale with any AD item.
It`s kinda crappy.
I will admit to never actually using bloodthisters on ezreal. I hate that item, actually.
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whoa, really? then yea, sheen sucks, ditch it, rofl. wtf, if it doesn't scale with any bonus damage, why would anyone get the item other than to upgrade to lich bane?
EDIT: Bloodthirsters are great. 25% lifesteal and 100 AD for 3200 is really obscenely efficient if you have the farming speed to maintain their stacks.
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So i just solo queued into a team with ReginaId. Decided to go AP ezreal cuz i havent used him in forever. With my luck, the other ezreal on the team is Swooze, and he's going AD. Noone else wanted mid, so I played it safe, didnt die, and helped top twice where Regin was going 1v2 with Nasus. Now apparently then I'm "LOL OUR EZREAL SUCKS, NOOB" going 4-0 early game as I 'KS-ed' him top. Also, since AD Ezreal kills creeps alot faster than me since im AP, I'm a baddie.
I was very tempted to just feed the other team to victory, but I'm on a 8 game winning streak and wanted to fill out my page with greens lol. Morale of the story, it seems the better you are, the more of a raging dickhead you are aka Swooze/Reginaid.
p.s. I'll understand it if I'm feeding, but spamming that ur teammate sucks when he's 4-0, didn't lose a tower, makes me wonder how old Regin is.
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Reginald has a reputation for douchebaggery.
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Ill just feed the next time he's on my team, it'll be more rewarding than the win.
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is this game ever going to make a way to stop backdooring? it is way too easy to do.
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really? it doesn't get worse at higher ratings? every game there is literally a player who does nothing but backdoor. Its always Shaco... last week it was Heimer though
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On July 08 2010 02 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 08 2010 02 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:34 Nokeboy wrote:
really? it doesn't get worse at higher ratings? every game there is literally a player who does nothing but backdoor. Its always Shaco... last week it was Heimer though
Heimer? Do you know what backdooring is btw?
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I figured I would chip in my two cents. I run the following on Ezreal. 29 Armor pen runes marks and quints, mp5/lvl seals, cd glyphs. 21/0/9 for masteries. Do not get W for a skill until its the only thing left. Mana crystal 2 health pots and head mid. Play it extremely safe especially vs kat and panth. Stick with caution, they need to land the kill a great deal more than you if you follow my build. Sheen first, as this will add the most dmg per gold, mana, and ap (although negligible helps). Boots -> brualizer -> avarice -> start 2nd brutalizer -> youmumus -> finish 2nd brualizer -> work on triforce -> Split depending on what you need, whether it be gangel for late game, banshees for stacked cc or focused cc on you, or inf edge (really my last choice and shouldnt be needed). This build is made for armor pen, cd reduction, and control. The items are cheap and build nicely to provide a constantly strong game and really take out the squishies. The 69 armor pen will bring most squishies to 0 armor. The cd reduction helps ensure that Arcane shift is up at all times to get you out of sticky situations, helps spam ult more to help side lanes, and more mystic shots. The damage from these few items is insane due to the armor pen. Spam mystic shot and win, that simple. The nerfs he recieved last patch are nothing. He is still by far the best ranged carry, due to insane damage from mystic shot and spammable flash.
How to land kills
+ Show Spoiler +Harass with mystic shot. If they slightly overextend, make them pay for it. Mystic shot, auto attack, arcane shift , auto attack, mystic shot. This combo will land you countless kills
Why ap and Madreds does not pay off
+ Show Spoiler +Ap takes a significant amount of time to become strong. The mana cost of E and W make spamming and harassing much more difficult, even with full mana regen runes. E is primarily an escape tool, because ezreal is ranged, so do not use this to attack. R is great for teamfights and has a decent ap scaling, but with minions in the way it will hit for a great deal less than another ranged ap, like karthus. W has a shorter range than mystic shot, bigger cooldown, and more mana cost. Items like Zhonyas and Lichbane have a gigantic cost and are not as hardhitting til the later game. Lichbane does PHYSICAL dmg, so therefore tanks aren't as hard hit. The early game and mid game weakening is just too much of a sacrifice to make it to late game ap, which is arguably at par or worse imo than ad. Onhit builds also suffer. Madreds does MAGIC dmg equal to 4%. So remember this is mitigated by magic res and therefore doesn't hit nearly as hard as you would think and doesn't fit into ad or ap build and cause u to need penetration in both. Also attack speed items leave less burst and require you stand still for full effect. This is bad, as ez you should be almost constantly moving and keeping range.
General tips that not enough people follow
+ Show Spoiler +Late game, elixir it up. If you are trying for stacks on snowball items in midgame, then elixir it up especially panth and jax. If you are going to teamfight, elixir it up, as one teamfight win is equal to much more than all of you buying an elixir.
Buy wards = win games ( I guarantee your win rate goes up)
Mid-Late game buy oracles and clear out wards.
vs Jungle Shaco, team push early and have tank buy oracles, when he decieves in, blow him up, he is squishy
vs Pantheon play it safe like if he was old tf, make it to late game and laugh at him as he fails
vs AP AoE CC stacking teams and kiting teams - pray
So many other things that need to be added to help others, but unfortunately game sense and playing in organized teams is the only real way to get these things to synch in. Brandon2832, friend me if you want, almost always in premade and looking to setup a strong set team for a WCG run (would be nice).
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Oh and if they are backdooring. Then teampush. 5v4 with a competent team means you will kill all 4 of them and take multiple towers, while he gets one from backdooring.
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when someone gets really dedicated about backdooring in higher level games, the opposing team usually just pushes 5v4 and rolls their team over.
then the pantheon jumps on the backdoorer and death combos him.
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On July 08 2010 02:45 Lt_Anarchy wrote:I figured I would chip in my two cents. I run the following on Ezreal. 29 Armor pen runes marks and quints, mp5/lvl seals, cd glyphs. 21/0/9 for masteries. Do not get W for a skill until its the only thing left. Mana crystal 2 health pots and head mid. Play it extremely safe especially vs kat and panth. Stick with caution, they need to land the kill a great deal more than you if you follow my build. Sheen first, as this will add the most dmg per gold, mana, and ap (although negligible helps). Boots -> brualizer -> avarice -> start 2nd brutalizer -> youmumus -> finish 2nd sheen -> work on triforce -> Split depending on what you need, whether it be gangel for late game, banshees for stacked cc or focused cc on you, or inf edge (really my last choice and shouldnt be needed). This build is made for armor pen, cd reduction, and control. The items are cheap and build nicely to provide a constantly strong game and really take out the squishies. The 69 armor pen will bring most squishies to 0 armor. The cd reduction helps ensure that Arcane shift is up at all times to get you out of sticky situations, helps spam ult more to help side lanes, and more mystic shots. The damage from these few items is insane due to the armor pen. Spam mystic shot and win, that simple. The nerfs he recieved last patch are nothing. He is still by far the best ranged carry, due to insane damage from mystic shot and spammable flash. How to land kills + Show Spoiler +Harass with mystic shot. If they slightly overextend, make them pay for it. Mystic shot, auto attack, arcane shift , auto attack, mystic shot. This combo will land you countless kills Why ap and Madreds does not pay off + Show Spoiler +Ap takes a significant amount of time to become strong. The mana cost of E and W make spamming and harassing much more difficult, even with full mana regen runes. E is primarily an escape tool, because ezreal is ranged, so do not use this to attack. R is great for teamfights and has a decent ap scaling, but with minions in the way it will hit for a great deal less than another ranged ap, like karthus. W has a shorter range than mystic shot, bigger cooldown, and more mana cost. Items like Zhonyas and Lichbane have a gigantic cost and are not as hardhitting til the later game. Lichbane does PHYSICAL dmg, so therefore tanks aren't as hard hit. The early game and mid game weakening is just too much of a sacrifice to make it to late game ap, which is arguably at par or worse imo than ad. Onhit builds also suffer. Madreds does MAGIC dmg equal to 4%. So remember this is mitigated by magic res and therefore doesn't hit nearly as hard as you would think and doesn't fit into ad or ap build and cause u to need penetration in both. Also attack speed items leave less burst and require you stand still for full effect. This is bad, as ez you should be almost constantly moving and keeping range. General tips that not enough people follow + Show Spoiler +Late game, elixir it up. If you are trying for stacks on snowball items in midgame, then elixir it up especially panth and jax. If you are going to teamfight, elixir it up, as one teamfight win is equal to much more than all of you buying an elixir.
Buy wards = win games ( I guarantee your win rate goes up)
Mid-Late game buy oracles and clear out wards.
vs Jungle Shaco, team push early and have tank buy oracles, when he decieves in, blow him up, he is squishy
vs Pantheon play it safe like if he was old tf, make it to late game and laugh at him as he fails
vs AP AoE CC stacking teams and kiting teams - pray
So many other things that need to be added to help others, but unfortunately game sense and playing in organized teams is the only real way to get these things to synch in. Brandon2832, friend me if you want, almost always in premade and looking to setup a strong set team for a WCG run (would be nice).
errrrrrrr... I apparently have missed memos on Sheen, but I was at least 99% certain that multiple sheens/sheen upgrades did not stack...
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On July 08 2010 02:49 Mogwai wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2010 02:45 Lt_Anarchy wrote:I figured I would chip in my two cents. I run the following on Ezreal. 29 Armor pen runes marks and quints, mp5/lvl seals, cd glyphs. 21/0/9 for masteries. Do not get W for a skill until its the only thing left. Mana crystal 2 health pots and head mid. Play it extremely safe especially vs kat and panth. Stick with caution, they need to land the kill a great deal more than you if you follow my build. Sheen first, as this will add the most dmg per gold, mana, and ap (although negligible helps). Boots -> brualizer -> avarice -> start 2nd brutalizer -> youmumus -> finish 2nd sheen -> work on triforce -> Split depending on what you need, whether it be gangel for late game, banshees for stacked cc or focused cc on you, or inf edge (really my last choice and shouldnt be needed). This build is made for armor pen, cd reduction, and control. The items are cheap and build nicely to provide a constantly strong game and really take out the squishies. The 69 armor pen will bring most squishies to 0 armor. The cd reduction helps ensure that Arcane shift is up at all times to get you out of sticky situations, helps spam ult more to help side lanes, and more mystic shots. The damage from these few items is insane due to the armor pen. Spam mystic shot and win, that simple. The nerfs he recieved last patch are nothing. He is still by far the best ranged carry, due to insane damage from mystic shot and spammable flash. How to land kills + Show Spoiler +Harass with mystic shot. If they slightly overextend, make them pay for it. Mystic shot, auto attack, arcane shift , auto attack, mystic shot. This combo will land you countless kills Why ap and Madreds does not pay off + Show Spoiler +Ap takes a significant amount of time to become strong. The mana cost of E and W make spamming and harassing much more difficult, even with full mana regen runes. E is primarily an escape tool, because ezreal is ranged, so do not use this to attack. R is great for teamfights and has a decent ap scaling, but with minions in the way it will hit for a great deal less than another ranged ap, like karthus. W has a shorter range than mystic shot, bigger cooldown, and more mana cost. Items like Zhonyas and Lichbane have a gigantic cost and are not as hardhitting til the later game. Lichbane does PHYSICAL dmg, so therefore tanks aren't as hard hit. The early game and mid game weakening is just too much of a sacrifice to make it to late game ap, which is arguably at par or worse imo than ad. Onhit builds also suffer. Madreds does MAGIC dmg equal to 4%. So remember this is mitigated by magic res and therefore doesn't hit nearly as hard as you would think and doesn't fit into ad or ap build and cause u to need penetration in both. Also attack speed items leave less burst and require you stand still for full effect. This is bad, as ez you should be almost constantly moving and keeping range. General tips that not enough people follow + Show Spoiler +Late game, elixir it up. If you are trying for stacks on snowball items in midgame, then elixir it up especially panth and jax. If you are going to teamfight, elixir it up, as one teamfight win is equal to much more than all of you buying an elixir.
Buy wards = win games ( I guarantee your win rate goes up)
Mid-Late game buy oracles and clear out wards.
vs Jungle Shaco, team push early and have tank buy oracles, when he decieves in, blow him up, he is squishy
vs Pantheon play it safe like if he was old tf, make it to late game and laugh at him as he fails
vs AP AoE CC stacking teams and kiting teams - pray
So many other things that need to be added to help others, but unfortunately game sense and playing in organized teams is the only real way to get these things to synch in. Brandon2832, friend me if you want, almost always in premade and looking to setup a strong set team for a WCG run (would be nice). errrrrrrr... I apparently have missed memos on Sheen, but I was at least 99% certain that multiple sheens/sheen upgrades did not stack...
Fixed
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