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barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
July 07 2010 15:37 GMT
#4441
On July 07 2010 20:20 BluzMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2010 19:55 Southlight wrote:
Nah, it was a reward for LoL being awarded GotY on one or two sites. Close, though

Edit:
Beta Testers got King Rammus skin.


Sadly the skin sucks. The only difference is some of the color.


was it available for purchase to beta testers or just str8 up given to beta ppl, kus im prty sure i dont have it (despite being in since closed beta). unless you had to have rammus already to get the skin, which i didnt until recently.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
July 07 2010 15:38 GMT
#4442
Kilouu plays a nasty AP ezrael. Yes in his current state.
Brees on in
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 07 2010 15:41 GMT
#4443
well Tay341283 or w/e, sucks ass with AP Ezreal. dodge-status for sure, that game was a gimme and he blew it for us.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 07 2010 15:46 GMT
#4444
I think I've actually see Kilouu's AP Ezreal.

King Rammus skin was given to all beta testers, along with the Rammus unlock.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51500 Posts
July 07 2010 16:01 GMT
#4445
just played my first game with ezrael and i did alright.
just wondering what times are appropriate to go triple-snowball builds?
was playing ad and had ghostblade (for cd), zerk boots, infi edge + the 3 snowball items but it was too late for them to start stacking up.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 07 2010 16:03 GMT
#4446
^ never, pretty much. Even getting one stack item is only for when you're doing really well / playing Ashe or something else that gets super easy assists
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-07 16:04:41
July 07 2010 16:04 GMT
#4447
On July 07 2010 23:36 Shikyo wrote:
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On July 07 2010 22 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              07 2010 22      end_of_the_skype_highlighting:49 Zutta wrote:

Why does this happen?

And yeah, TL premades are good but if you wanna win and you're a higher level you should really make a smurf. I've been going in with anyone who wants to play lately and it's been a pretty rough week. Like today we went 2-2 but we should have won the last game (backdoor TF just raped us, he was like 1-8 or something with 5 tower kills) and it's just hard sometimes because tryharding gets really boring.

Honestly just play well and someone will take notice and friend you. If you make good friends this way they will introduce you to more good friends.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
July 07 2010 16:09 GMT
#4448
GTR is a really good, solid player, but we need to train him to win early game mid consistently
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
July 07 2010 16:09 GMT
#4449
On July 07 2010 22:49 Zutta wrote:
im officially done with this stupid fucking game. not only does it take me 10+ minutes just to get into a game with all the dodgers and shit, but i end up losing in about 25m minutes EVERY game. my recent game list is beyond hilarious, like 9 losses and a win. every game seems to be me getting that kid who just picked up this game 30 seconds ago and is attempting to mid as ashe and then ends up feeding their ez about 6 kills before the side lanes even get 1. theres no coming back from that shit. im just going to wait for sc2 to be out so i can stop playing all these stupid fucking team games like LoL, CS, and MW2, where i just get completely FUCKED by horrible horrible teammates who run around with their thumbs up their asses. seriously.


This happens when you solo que, You will go on winning and losing streaks. It kinda sucks but its not so bad
Never Knows Best.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
July 07 2010 16:16 GMT
#4450
On July 08 2010 00:05 Southlight wrote:
And I find it funny how even on a towerdive hero like Kass I still don't have a killer instinct :x I was re-watching a game I played this morning and noticed I let at least two kills get away -_-


dude tower diving is terrifying. you have to be 100% sure you'll get the kill, 100% sure that no one else is in the nearby jungle, has teleport, has a global ult, etc etc, and then 100% sure that you'll be able to survive the tower (unless it's fb, i don't mind martyring for that). if you're not 100% sure on any of those or 100% focused, you'll probably fuck it up. it's really hard to devote yourself to a tower dive imo, even with a strong diver. and a lot of champs can punish you for tower diving. i'm sure you've seen a 100 hp rammus beat a full hp *insert champ here* who got overzealous and tried to fight in tower range

there's nothing wrong with being cautious imo
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-07 16:27:20
July 07 2010 16:21 GMT
#4451
On July 08 2010 01:01 GTR wrote:
just played my first game with ezrael and i did alright.
just wondering what times are appropriate to go triple-snowball builds?
was playing ad and had ghostblade (for cd), zerk boots, infi edge + the 3 snowball items but it was too late for them to start stacking up.


You should give my AD ezreal build a shot:

- boots + 3 health potions
- longsword and pickaxe
- upgrade boots and recursive bow
- finish bloodrazor
- work towards trinity force

cleanse/ignite
13/17/0
hp/armor pen/mp5/cdr

bloodrazor imo is a better investment over infinities edge for ezreal, as mystic shot applies the on-hit effect. This makes you supremely imba with poking and straight-up fighting once you get it.

Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
July 07 2010 16:26 GMT
#4452
gah, now that I've really started to enjoy this game SC2 beta is coming back. This game was meant to tide me over until then, but now I'm thinking I'm gonna split my time.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 07 2010 16:33 GMT
#4453
On July 08 2010 01:16 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2010 00:05 Southlight wrote:
And I find it funny how even on a towerdive hero like Kass I still don't have a killer instinct :x I was re-watching a game I played this morning and noticed I let at least two kills get away -_-


dude tower diving is terrifying. you have to be 100% sure you'll get the kill, 100% sure that no one else is in the nearby jungle, has teleport, has a global ult, etc etc, and then 100% sure that you'll be able to survive the tower (unless it's fb, i don't mind martyring for that). if you're not 100% sure on any of those or 100% focused, you'll probably fuck it up. it's really hard to devote yourself to a tower dive imo, even with a strong diver. and a lot of champs can punish you for tower diving. i'm sure you've seen a 100 hp rammus beat a full hp *insert champ here* who got overzealous and tried to fight in tower range

there's nothing wrong with being cautious imo


Towerdiving is what makes the game fun. Caution can go eat a dick, just jump in there and fuckin' kill em.

On July 08 2010 01:21 Juicyfruit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2010 01:01 GTR wrote:
just played my first game with ezrael and i did alright.
just wondering what times are appropriate to go triple-snowball builds?
was playing ad and had ghostblade (for cd), zerk boots, infi edge + the 3 snowball items but it was too late for them to start stacking up.


You should give my AD ezreal build a shot:

- boots + 3 health potions
- longsword and pickaxe
- upgrade boots and recursive bow
- finish bloodrazor
- work towards trinity force


bloodrazor imo is a better investment over infinities edge for ezreal, as mystic shot applies the on-hit effect. This makes you supremely imba with poking and straight-up fighting once you get it.



bloodrazor + Attack Speed = good combo, you'll kill em

bloodrazor + Mystic Shot = inefficient

I'm not saying that bloodrazor is necessarily a bad idea, because obviously Ezreal stacks up attack speed with his passive, but if you just wanna poke em with your Q and abuse on hit stuff, sheen is so much more efficient it's ridiculous. 4% of their total health for 3800 gold vs. 80% of your total AD for 1280, is just... not even a comparison, sheen wins so hard it's ridiculous. I mean, yea, it's probably better on him than IE, but those aren't the only two options... AD Ezreal is so good because he kicks in so early and just rips people up with sheen + brutalizer.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
July 07 2010 16:36 GMT
#4454
Well, bloodrazor does come with OTHER stats you know >.>
Louder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States2276 Posts
July 07 2010 16:36 GMT
#4455
On July 08 2010 01:33 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2010 01:16 gtrsrs wrote:
On July 08 2010 00:05 Southlight wrote:
And I find it funny how even on a towerdive hero like Kass I still don't have a killer instinct :x I was re-watching a game I played this morning and noticed I let at least two kills get away -_-


dude tower diving is terrifying. you have to be 100% sure you'll get the kill, 100% sure that no one else is in the nearby jungle, has teleport, has a global ult, etc etc, and then 100% sure that you'll be able to survive the tower (unless it's fb, i don't mind martyring for that). if you're not 100% sure on any of those or 100% focused, you'll probably fuck it up. it's really hard to devote yourself to a tower dive imo, even with a strong diver. and a lot of champs can punish you for tower diving. i'm sure you've seen a 100 hp rammus beat a full hp *insert champ here* who got overzealous and tried to fight in tower range

there's nothing wrong with being cautious imo


Towerdiving is what makes the game fun. Caution can go eat a dick, just jump in there and fuckin' kill em.

Show nested quote +
On July 08 2010 01:21 Juicyfruit wrote:
On July 08 2010 01:01 GTR wrote:
just played my first game with ezrael and i did alright.
just wondering what times are appropriate to go triple-snowball builds?
was playing ad and had ghostblade (for cd), zerk boots, infi edge + the 3 snowball items but it was too late for them to start stacking up.


You should give my AD ezreal build a shot:

- boots + 3 health potions
- longsword and pickaxe
- upgrade boots and recursive bow
- finish bloodrazor
- work towards trinity force


bloodrazor imo is a better investment over infinities edge for ezreal, as mystic shot applies the on-hit effect. This makes you supremely imba with poking and straight-up fighting once you get it.



bloodrazor + Attack Speed = good combo, you'll kill em

bloodrazor + Mystic Shot = inefficient

I'm not saying that bloodrazor is necessarily a bad idea, because obviously Ezreal stacks up attack speed with his passive, but if you just wanna poke em with your Q and abuse on hit stuff, sheen is so much more efficient it's ridiculous. 4% of their total health for 3800 gold vs. 80% of your total AD for 1280, is just... not even a comparison, sheen wins so hard it's ridiculous. I mean, yea, it's probably better on him than IE, but those aren't the only two options... AD Ezreal is so good because he kicks in so early and just rips people up with sheen + brutalizer.


He did say work toward trinity force, which means there's a sheen in there at some point. I think getting bloodrazer first is probably smart. Considering how small Ez's mana pool is early game, you really can't spam out your rising spell force at every minor engagement. Also, having a fast BR on ez usually lets you pop baron around lvl 11
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
July 07 2010 16:38 GMT
#4456
AD ezrael is just doran's blade, boots , brutalizer, BT, BT. seems like the most effective build from what ive seen
Brees on in
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 07 2010 16:39 GMT
#4457
considering how small Ez's mana pool is early game, shouldn't you invest in the abusive on-hit item that comes with built in mana and gets finished 3 times quicker?
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 07 2010 16:41 GMT
#4458
On July 07 2010 15 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              07 2010 15      end_of_the_skype_highlighting:19 RoieTRS wrote:
This is a friend of mine's tier list. He is very skilled. I would change aboslutely nothing about it. Please discuss.

Tier 1: Ezreal, Ashe, Warwick, Kayle, Shaco, Sivir, Annie
Tier 2: Janna, Taric, Pantheon, Heimdinger, Soraka, Zilean, Katarina, Gragas, Morgana, Jax, Shen
Tier 3: Fiddlesticks,Twisted fate, Nasus,Amumu,Udyr, Blitzcrank,Tristana,Nidalee, Corki,Malphite
Tier 4: Master yi, Olaf, Singed, Rammus, Chogath, Kennen, Karthus, Gangplank lank,Poppy, Twitch, Anivia, Nunu, Malzahar, Alistar, Sion, Mordekesier, KogMaw
Tier 5: Garen, Kassadin, Akali, Mundo,Veigar, Ryze, Teemo, Tryndamare, Evelynn

Sivir isn't tier 1, she's lower. Pantheon is tier 1, as is Janna and Taric and Soraka and Heimerdinger. Warwick, Annie don't belong to tier 1 either, tier 2 would be better. Gragas is way lower, maybe 3-4. Jax is tier 3 I think.

Amumu is tier 1 or 2. Blitz is like 4-5. Tristana is tier 3-4. Corki is probably 4-5. Kennen is tier 5. Poppy is 3-4. Nunu is 5. Malzahar is 5. Sion is 3-4. Alistar is probably 3. Mordekaiser is 5. Kogmaw can't say yet.

Garen is 3-4 as is Kassadin. Ryze is 4.

Otherwise it seems okay.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
July 07 2010 16:46 GMT
#4459
The thing is, sheen's not even THAT good on ezreal to abuse on-hit. A nice boost to mystic shot, yes, but honestly, your DPS increase from getting a bloodrazor far exceeds triple what sheen does (and as such is well worth paying for).
Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
July 07 2010 16:48 GMT
#4460
On July 08 2010 01:41 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2010 15 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              07 2010 15      end_of_the_skype_highlighting:19 RoieTRS wrote:
This is a friend of mine's tier list. He is very skilled. I would change aboslutely nothing about it. Please discuss.

Tier 1: Ezreal, Ashe, Warwick, Kayle, Shaco, Sivir, Annie
Tier 2: Janna, Taric, Pantheon, Heimdinger, Soraka, Zilean, Katarina, Gragas, Morgana, Jax, Shen
Tier 3: Fiddlesticks,Twisted fate, Nasus,Amumu,Udyr, Blitzcrank,Tristana,Nidalee, Corki,Malphite
Tier 4: Master yi, Olaf, Singed, Rammus, Chogath, Kennen, Karthus, Gangplank lank,Poppy, Twitch, Anivia, Nunu, Malzahar, Alistar, Sion, Mordekesier, KogMaw
Tier 5: Garen, Kassadin, Akali, Mundo,Veigar, Ryze, Teemo, Tryndamare, Evelynn

Sivir isn't tier 1, she's lower. Pantheon is tier 1, as is Janna and Taric and Soraka and Heimerdinger. Warwick, Annie don't belong to tier 1 either, tier 2 would be better. Gragas is way lower, maybe 3-4. Jax is tier 3 I think.

Amumu is tier 1 or 2. Blitz is like 4-5. Tristana is tier 3-4. Corki is probably 4-5. Kennen is tier 5. Poppy is 3-4. Nunu is 5. Malzahar is 5. Sion is 3-4. Alistar is probably 3. Mordekaiser is 5. Kogmaw can't say yet.

Garen is 3-4 as is Kassadin. Ryze is 4.

Otherwise it seems okay.


part of the point is that everyone has a different idea of which hero is OP vs UP, due to who they generally play, and who they've seen playing the heroes in question.
Tier lists are really always pretty much a joke (I'm just happy that nasus always sits near the top, but not AT the top so that people arn't crying nerfs)
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