EPTOn a different note (but back to the topic of jungling), I found out the other day you can jungle with Yi without even getting Smite, which is pretty nasty (one of the biggest bottlenecks of jungling is having to take Smite as one of your skills). He obviously suffers some timeloss because of not having Smite, especially with an unlucky Alpha vs stone golems, but with the recent change to creep reactions to teleport, it's very very viable.
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Southlight
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On a different note (but back to the topic of jungling), I found out the other day you can jungle with Yi without even getting Smite, which is pretty nasty (one of the biggest bottlenecks of jungling is having to take Smite as one of your skills). He obviously suffers some timeloss because of not having Smite, especially with an unlucky Alpha vs stone golems, but with the recent change to creep reactions to teleport, it's very very viable. | ||
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Brees
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Mogwai
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Southlight
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On June 30 2010 04:08 Mogwai wrote: well like... I dunno, WW can jungle easily without smite, but he still takes it because if you're caught vs. another jungler who does have smite you'll get rocked on level and then he'll just come by and jack your buffs. The difference to me is that WW relies on buffs to get leveling speed to hit level 6, because pre-6 he's not as vicious a ganker. Master Yi on the hand has a nasty level 3/4 red-buff gank, and after that he just remains a constant unstoppable threat, and his map control comes faster (level 3/4 onward) as opposed to Warwick. He'll also generally beat back other junglers, unlike Warwick who really, really struggles taking on other junglers 1v1. lol @ Brees. It's totally viable though because the ult is so nice now O_o | ||
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
On June 30 2010 03:53 myopia wrote: it's DotA last hitting all over again, but even worse because you get money for it and can actually reverse push and use your own tower for zoning you cant do it too often so its not that big of a deal. brees you want to write a short guide of how you build items for him? are avarice blades really worth it? how about sheen? the one game ive played with him was really fun, but i was kinda getting fed early so i could just rush IE and atmas | ||
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On June 30 2010 03:57 Southlight wrote: Actually his ult + amumu's ult is SICK at the moment. I was getting GPs double/triple kills all the time. I guess they did buff the cannonball range, it pretty much covers the whole ult area now, just making it a pure DPS zone. is it veigar's ult that traps everyone in the circle? seems like that + gangplank's ult could be pretty awesome lol | ||
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Chrispy
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On June 30 2010 04:21 Chrispy wrote: Oh god I looooove it when I have an Amumu on my team fix'd seriously, if you have a mummy who can land a good ult, I don't care who you are, you're pretty fucking stoked about it. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On June 30 2010 04:03 Southlight wrote: The ult's pretty hax now. Parrley is definitely his worst skill at this point, which is kinda amusing. On a different note (but back to the topic of jungling), I found out the other day you can jungle with Yi without even getting Smite, which is pretty nasty (one of the biggest bottlenecks of jungling is having to take Smite as one of your skills). He obviously suffers some timeloss because of not having Smite, especially with an unlucky Alpha vs stone golems, but with the recent change to creep reactions to teleport, it's very very viable. Soloside taught me how to jungle yi without smite a couple weeks back. Too bad that if you don't land a lucky alpha strike you can get screwed. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On June 30 2010 04:38 HazMat wrote: Soloside taught me how to jungle yi without smite a couple weeks back. Too bad that if you don't land a lucky alpha strike you can get screwed. SCENE: A dark room, with a desk and desklamp at its center. SOLOSIDE: My young padawan, today I shall teach you the secret to jungling without Smite with Master Yi. HAZMAT: Yes, my lord? SOLOSIDE: You press Q. HAZMAT: Yes? SOLOSIDE: And click on some random creep. HAZMAT: And? SOLOSIDE: And that is it. | ||
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GogoKodo
Canada1785 Posts
On June 30 2010 04:19 travis wrote: is it veigar's ult that traps everyone in the circle? seems like that + gangplank's ult could be pretty awesome lol It's one of his regular skills. Event Horizon | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
http://www.alienwarearena.com/event/lol-giveaway/ | ||
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radmax86
United States437 Posts
On June 29 2010 23:58 Juicyfruit wrote: My tristana build goes something like - boots - catalyst - infinities edge (BF -> Cloak -> IE) - green pots - starks or LW - banshee's veil Catalyst sucks, get a phange. Some matchups benefit from a banshee, but there is no way I would make it part of my core build. On June 30 2010 00:13 Southlight wrote: I'm around +95, and I've seen a notable spike in the quality of opponents going from +85 to +95 in the past week, if that's of any help. +95 is my "wall" at the moment, whenever I go over it I go on like a two-game losing streak to knock me back down. Doesn't help that when I hit +98 I screwed around in games to knock me back down, but yea ;p I believe redtooth is around +105, as is Aerox, and Brees I'm gonna guess is like +120. Both of them are on a definitely higher level than me, as I've yet no seen bigfatjiji's premade (or I'm just lucky, not sure). I do see grandjudge and cfang, so I assume I see most of the top players, just not the tip of the pyramid.. I run into those people you mentioned fairly regularly and I usually float between +50-70. However, like you I don't run into the jiji premades or other good 5 mans. When I see the names I recognize, they generally aren't part of a large premade, so I think there is a small tier above where I'm at. Zileas has said the +wins over losses is a fairly good indicator, but also stated there are some people near the very top with a negative W/L. This suggests ELO is more about who you have beat, not absolute W/L. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On June 30 2010 04:52 Southlight wrote: SCENE: A dark room, with a desk and desklamp at its center. SOLOSIDE: My young padawan, today I shall teach you the secret to jungling without Smite with Master Yi. HAZMAT: Yes, my lord? SOLOSIDE: You press Q. HAZMAT: Yes? SOLOSIDE: And click on some random creep. HAZMAT: And? SOLOSIDE: And that is it. Best part is he actually created a game and showed me. I died once to golems in a solo que, never doing that again. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On June 30 2010 04:55 radmax86 wrote:This suggests ELO is more about who you have beat, not absolute W/L. There's no need for suggestion, I'm pretty sure that's how it works. It's just that a good W/L usually entails you're beating people who you should be beating, that's all. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On June 30 2010 04:52 Southlight wrote: SCENE: A dark room, with a desk and desklamp at its center. SOLOSIDE: My young padawan, today I shall teach you the secret to jungling without Smite with Master Yi. HAZMAT: Yes, my lord? SOLOSIDE: You press Q. HAZMAT: Yes? SOLOSIDE: And click on some random creep. HAZMAT: And? SOLOSIDE: And that is it. not gonna, lie, I loled. | ||
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radmax86
United States437 Posts
On June 30 2010 04:56 Southlight wrote: There's no need for suggestion, I'm pretty sure that's how it works. It's just that a good W/L usually entails you're beating people who you should be beating, that's all. Sorta, if matchmaking worked perfectly, we would probably still be at .500 since there is still that "tip of the pyramid" above us. | ||
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Iplaythings
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On June 30 2010 04:55 Southlight wrote: By the way if people missed out on Nightmare Cho before, it's back up: http://www.alienwarearena.com/event/lol-giveaway/ That's one of the few skins (that and ufo corki) which is worse than the original imo. | ||
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Mogwai
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