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On October 27 2010 04:27 Southlight wrote:
No, in an even fight, the triple D-Blade > one D-Blade "I almost have BF" build.
Edit:
It's not even an "I almost have," too. 2 D-Blades + Fort = ~1300, that's just 2/3 of a BF Sword.
I think when Gtr says 'behind or even go doran, ahead go bf' as in.
3 D-Blade vs D-Blade + BF, while "D-Blade + I almost have BF" means you're about even.
or maybe
Enemy 1 D-Blade vs 1 D-Blade + "I almost have BF" as 'ahead'.
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Or I could be completely missing the point. Don't mind me too much, just sauntering through.
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fuck free WW week. time for moar fail junglers.
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i honestly still don't even understand how people fail at jungling with WW. It's mind bogglingly easy.
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i dont think they actually mess up the jungling itself, just the parts where they get counterjungled and fail gank and dont do dragon for 20 mins
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is cleanse flash best summoners for twitch?
Also when i attack do i try to focus one guy down cause sometimes twitch will walk into the middle and get wrecked, any tips on how to maneuver him in teamfight
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On October 27 2010 06:17 BluFlu wrote:
is cleanse flash best summoners for twitch?
Also when i attack do i try to focus one guy down cause sometimes twitch will walk into the middle and get wrecked, any tips on how to maneuver him in teamfight
cleanse ghost flash, depends on personal preference
stay way back, you should never need to get close. Watch the positioning of anyone with CC. Twitch really needs someone to stop enemies so he can destroy them. Aim to hit as many people as you can. tanks aren't people, so just avoid them.
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From Wriggle -
Oracle's Elixir graphic mod
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52453/oracle.zip
To install, extract the .zip to \league of legends\game\data\
Once Riot puts in their own Oracles Indicator, you can uninstall my mod by deleting \league of legends\game\data\spells\OracleElixirSight.luaobj
Installing the Oracles mod to the instructed directory will not affect your patching in any way, as the files it "overwrites" are contained safely inside the .zip, which is what the patcher will modify. This mod will not cause errors.
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On October 27 2010 06:21 Tooplark wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2010 06:17 BluFlu wrote:
is cleanse flash best summoners for twitch?
Also when i attack do i try to focus one guy down cause sometimes twitch will walk into the middle and get wrecked, any tips on how to maneuver him in teamfight cleanse ghost flash, depends on personal preference stay way back, you should never need to get close. Watch the positioning of anyone with CC. Twitch really needs someone to stop enemies so he can destroy them. Aim to hit as many people as you can. tanks aren't people, so just avoid them.
imo, on twitch, flash > ghost, if you're not gonna escape with flash + invis, ur not gonna escape with ghost
also i run flash cleanse so if i get a whiff of danger i can de-aggro myself by cleanse-flashing out and then sitting on the fringe shooting ppl
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On October 27 2010 06:21 Niton wrote:From Wriggle - Oracle's Elixir graphic modhttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/52453/oracle.zipTo install, extract the .zip to \league of legends\game\data\ Once Riot puts in their own Oracles Indicator, you can uninstall my mod by deleting \league of legends\game\data\spells\OracleElixirSight.luaobj Installing the Oracles mod to the instructed directory will not affect your patching in any way, as the files it "overwrites" are contained safely inside the .zip, which is what the patcher will modify. This mod will not cause errors.
mehhhh, i can say i particularly care, i really only get boned by oracles when i walk into a bush and some1 in that bush has it. Otherwise, im pretty good about paying attention to that stuff.
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Wow, Niton, that's neat! thanks! I wish the tab score screen would have indicators like this (although I suppose showing buffs on the tab screen would be ridiculous and stupid), and also for killing spree bonuses (what they're worth) or at least their killing spree streak. Why? I dunno, I just want it.
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On October 27 2010 05:54 Orpheos wrote:
fuck free WW week. time for moar fail junglers.
I'm on it
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I was thinking of getting ezreal, even though he isn't really quite the champ he used to be. I have mostly seen AD builds for Ez, but does anyone go AP and then get lichbane to make use of his q?
Seems like it would work in my head but I have never played him. I guess you would still be wasting his attack speed to an extent, but I was just curious.
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Im glad ashe is free, shes like never free!
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On October 27 2010 05:54 Orpheos wrote:
fuck free WW week. time for moar fail junglers.
God, this is exactly what I thought when I saw WW. Jungling isn't hard but there are 1000000 ways to fuck it up. They'll rush BR before boots so that they're super behind in terms of XP and gold. They'll come gank mid at lvl 4 when mid has Flash. Let me count the ways...
Honestly if people would just think of jungling as a race to kill as many mobs as fast as possible, it would be better. I don't even give a shit about dragon control. What's the point of trying to control dragon when you're 2 levels behind what you should be and you're not up to spec on items. Even if they didn't exert map control, they'd at least be getting good XP.
On October 27 2010 06:17 BluFlu wrote:
is cleanse flash best summoners for twitch?
Also when i attack do i try to focus one guy down cause sometimes twitch will walk into the middle and get wrecked, any tips on how to maneuver him in teamfight
I don't think I could play Twitch without Cleanse/Flash. There is too much CC in existence in the game to wait until all the dangerous CC is gone. In lots of situations, you WILL eat CC so Cleanse feels like a must. Flash is used to reposition during a teamfight because tanks WILL gun for you. Without these and 21 utility, I feel like Twitch is marginally dangerous at best unless the other team has a really shit comp (no dangerous CC etc.).
In teamfights, I don't try to down one person, I try to do as much damage as possible, even if it's spread out. Stay as far away physically from the team fight as you can and focus the person nearest you in a manner that will hit lots of people behind them. Usually this person is a tank but don't worry about it. My reasoning for this is that getting lots of people very low is more likely to win you the overall fight than trying to take out one person (who may escape somehow, leaving you unstealthed and your damage basically mitigated). Be sure to update your targeting so that you are hitting as many people as possible - this is actually pretty hard to do and takes lots of practice and failure imo. Be very conscious about using Flash to reposition yourself for maximum damage.
If you hit like 3 people solidly with your ult and you have decent farm, you should do enough damage for even the worst solo queue monkeys to mop up - even if you die. The problem with Twitch imo isn't really the fights, it's having a good team comp and players that will try to protect/help you and set up reasonable fights.
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Doesn't seem like you guys know the "die during second jungle run" WWs.
Epic.
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Niton thats very cool! thank you!
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Anyone have any updated thoughts on Jungling Udyr? I've tried it in the past by starting at double golems and doing all of the non-buff spawns twice before getting any buffs at all, but it feels like this is an ultra-safe jungling path for when you don't want to get counter-jungle-ganked at high ELO. I'd like to be able to do my side of the jungle faster than I am currently.
Here is what I've been experimenting with in a practice game:
Preparation
- Masteries: 1/14/15 (HP/Movespeed/Buff Duration)
- Runes: Red - Attack Speed, Yellow - Dodge/Armor mix, Blue - Magic Resist
- Spells: Phoenix, Turtle, Phoenix, Bear. Bear is grabbed after I kill double golems which is the last neutral I kill on our side before either bluepilling or going to their side to get their golem if they have no jungler.
- Items: Cloth Armor, 5 health pots
Execution
- Golem, use phoenix twice, drink two health pots.
- Wolves, use phoenix once, make sure the two little guys are in the fire cone, drink another pot.
- Wraiths, use phoenix twice.
- Lizard, here I need to pause for about 5-10 seconds to let my health pot tick a bit. Kill lizard alternating phoenix/turtle just enough to keep the 15% aspeed buff up.
- Double Golems, same as lizard, alternate just enough to keep the 15% aspeed buff up.
If I bluepill now I just buy boots and some health pots and go try to gank, if I don't bluepill here I do:
Enemy Golem -> Enemy Wolves -> Friendly Wraiths -> Friendly Wolves -> Friendly Double Golem
Then I'll bluepill and get madreds/boots.
As for midgame items I generally get wriggles and mercury treads. From there I go to either Sheen or start Guinsoo's Rageblade.
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Can someone give me from tips for jungling with yi? I start off with smite and exhaust, and get cloth armor and 5 health pots. First point into alpha strike. My problem is that at the wraiths (which I do 2nd, I start with the golems), my ability to kill them is highly dependent on the random chance that alpha strike kills some of them right off. The same thing happens at the blue buff - if alpha strike kills 1 lizard, its no problem, otherwise I sort of have to back out. Should I be going for red first? Starting with some other items?
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Jungle Yi is luck-dependant. The best you can do is to touch Soloside's head beforehand to draw from his infinite pool of good luck.
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On October 27 2010 06:56 DiracMonopole wrote:
Can someone give me from tips for jungling with yi? I start off with smite and exhaust, and get cloth armor and 5 health pots. First point into alpha strike. My problem is that at the wraiths (which I do 2nd, I start with the golems), my ability to kill them is highly dependent on the random chance that alpha strike kills some of them right off. The same thing happens at the blue buff - if alpha strike kills 1 lizard, its no problem, otherwise I sort of have to back out. Should I be going for red first? Starting with some other items?
Start at wraiths. Smite if you don't kill the blue one.
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