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SHr3DD3r
Pakistan2137 Posts
But I am a noob so.... | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On October 26 2010 03:00 gtrsrs wrote: doesn't yuomou's give crit chance? and armor pen is always good on dps champs. IE is just such a big investment. start crit cloak, get no damage. start bf sword, get no damage for forever and when you get damage you've got no crit. start pickaxe and get a little damage but no crit. i dunno it just feels like a late-game item for trynd. Yes, it has 15% crit. But the reason you want IE is that with IE, crit gives much more damage than AD for the same money. And since you already have a lot of crit, IE will give you ridiculous damage. Avarice, Zeal, IE, Ghostblade, Phantom Dancer sounds really strong. If you get Ghostblade before IE you will still do almost no damage though. | ||
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SHr3DD3r
Pakistan2137 Posts
On October 26 2010 03:14 Mogwai wrote: it's called Phantom Dancer (Lancer was that asshole in DotA who made like 9248094829438 clones of himself and had the Kimari model). It's a super late-game item, always post-IE. Ah yes my mistake. Any reason why its ALWAYS post-IE? | ||
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azndsh
United States4447 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
Again, the better trynds I've been seeing do something like Avarice blade -> Zeal (the pre-requisite to Phantom Dancer, actually pretty efficient) -> IE -> Ghost Blade (gives you a lot more bang for your buck than Phantom Dancer) -> Phantom Dancer | ||
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Jaksiel
United States4130 Posts
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Papvin
Denmark610 Posts
On October 26 2010 02:59 Mogwai wrote: I would have 2 generalized rune pages + 1 Akali page in your situation. ArPen/Mp5pL/MRpL/ArPen MPen/Mp5pL/APpL/AP Shared Akali Page I can see the reason to spec more defensive in lane in masteries, but do you need a different rune page to accomodate that? Then again, I'm bad at compromising on this stuff, so I have 10 pages :p. Well, that's the problem. If I go offensive masteries, I only need one damage quint, if I go defensive, I need 2 :S, and for jungling I need 2 ap quints, so therefor the need for two different rune pages for lane/jungle which would suck considering my 3 pages. I have two generic ones for caster/physical and it works great, but Akali is a bitch to spec :/. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On October 26 2010 03:24 Jaksiel wrote: On my way to level 30, the two generic runepages I've been using are ArPen/Armor/MRlvl/HP and MPen/MP5lvl/MRlvl/HP. Based on discussions here I've gathered that HP quints are usually not optimal but I like them enough generically until I know for sure what champions I'm going to specialize in. MR/lvl is probably not the optimal blue rune for casters but I still like it enough to not spend more IP on different runes at the moment, since the next runes I buy are probably going to be ASpd runes so I can jungle more efficiently. you barely notice the blues. I wouldn't buy AS yellow/blues until you really just have IP to burn, liek me :p. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
18/3/9 flash smite, arpen red, armor/level yellow, mres/level blue, 1 hp quint 2 movespeed quints green pot + 5 hp pots wraiths, smite the big one but don't activate green pot, use 1 hp pot and Q once after all the small wraiths are dead. proceed to small golems, you should be 85% health or more. activate green pot as you attack the first one. 1 hp pot, 1 Q during teh fight. another hp pot as you move to wolves. start big wolf. smite will come up halfway through big wolf, resist the temptation! 1 Q during the fight, don't use an hp pot until you get to blue golem. kill the small creeps first to rack up Qs. use Q whenever it's up and you're low health, blue golem is a toughie. but you should be riding around 65% crit chance the whole fight so ezpz. port back after blue. ~500 gold buys you crit glove + 2 more pots. run to wraiths, spinning across terrain. small wraiths first, don't smite the big one (it shouldn't be up anyways) red lizard, kill teh small ones first, smite will come up during your fight. when you finish red lizard you'll be half-way to 5 with 1/3 or more of your green pot left. gogo gank with shout, spin, and use flash to avoid a stun if they toss one at you. you'll arrive to the lane at like 1/2 health so it's risky, might consider using all health pots but i liked the 55% crit chance and just assumed i could spin/flash to safety if there was a problem fb will net you 1000 gold here, buy avarice and pots, go back to jungle, good luck! | ||
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seppolevne
Canada1681 Posts
Caster/Tank: Mpen/Mp5lvl/APlvl/AP AD/Jungle: Arpen/Armor/Mreslvl/Arpen Trynd: Funfires -> Atma's | ||
Haemonculus
United States6980 Posts
On October 26 2010 03:36 seppolevne wrote: My two rune pages: Caster/Tank: Mpen/Mp5lvl/APlvl/AP AD/Jungle: Arpen/Armor/Mreslvl/Arpen Trynd: Funfires -> Atma's Hmmm... I have 4 atm. Page 1 is for akali cause she's got some pretty specific rune needs: ArPen/dodge/mRes/2xAD, 1x HP Page 2 is my generic caster page: Mpen/Mp5/ mRes/2xAP, 1x HP Page 3 is my generic melee page: ArPen/Mp5/mRes/HP Page 4 is for non-mana casters, (Morde, kennen, etc) Mpen/dodge/mRes/HP | ||
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myopia
United States2928 Posts
mpen/ep5plvl/mresplvl/ep5 my Nasus page arpen/mp5plvl/mp5plvl/ms and my FotW page. | ||
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Jazriel
Canada404 Posts
My friend plays pretty much Trynd exculsively, and while I'm not sure he has the best jungle route he's pretty much refined his item build to the best that I've seen. He goes for double zeal before IE, but that could be personal preference. He runs crit and dodge runes, I'm trying to get him to build a troll Furor page. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
>.< I've been running 1) ArP/Mp5L or HP / CDR / HP 2)MPen / Mp5L/CDR/HP I've bought most of the T2.5 quints though and I'm going to buy AP blues and MR blues next I think because CDR is pretty much all I've got so far and works well with most of the heroes I play (Amumu/Karthus/Nasus/Urgot etc.) Since there are no heroes I really want to buy for the next little while, barring a really interesting new one (but what are the chances of that, amirite?) I think I'll just save up for a couple extra rune pages. Though hopefully Riot's bribing of people to vote for them in whatever it was will pay off... Free rune page + champ weekend + IP boost for everyone! | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On October 26 2010 03:58 Jazriel wrote: How do people not know how to build Trynd? Zerker + Zeal, maybe another one, then IE. Trynd before IE is a joke. Avarice is bad on him, doesn't give MS or the ever-so-important early-game AS. My friend plays pretty much Trynd exculsively, and while I'm not sure he has the best jungle route he's pretty much refined his item build to the best that I've seen. He goes for double zeal before IE, but that could be personal preference. He runs crit and dodge runes, I'm trying to get him to build a troll Furor page. Righty, he is a joke before IE. So, you get an Avarice Blade that actually pays off by the time you can afford an IE. Why get multiple Zeals if you're a joke even with multiple of them? | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On October 26 2010 03:58 Jazriel wrote: How do people not know how to build Trynd? Zerker + Zeal, maybe another one, then IE. Trynd before IE is a joke. Avarice is bad on him, doesn't give MS or the ever-so-important early-game AS. My friend plays pretty much Trynd exculsively, and while I'm not sure he has the best jungle route he's pretty much refined his item build to the best that I've seen. He goes for double zeal before IE, but that could be personal preference. He runs crit and dodge runes, I'm trying to get him to build a troll Furor page. from the mouth of the best player on TL i will try this next, oh prince | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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Jazriel
Canada404 Posts
On October 26 2010 04:05 gtrsrs wrote: from the mouth of the best player on TL i will try this next, oh prince You're not banned yet? Guess I'll just PM a different mod this time. As for Trynd, my friend gets double zeals because Trynd isn't useless when he has the MS and AS to actually kill people mid-game. Avarice Blade is useless on Trynd because it doesn't cover any of his early-game weaknesses. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On October 26 2010 04:08 Jazriel wrote: You're not banned yet? Guess I'll just PM a different mod this time. As for Trynd, my friend gets double zeals because Trynd isn't useless when he has the MS and AS to actually kill people mid-game. Avarice Blade is useless on Trynd because it doesn't cover any of his early-game weaknesses. again... it is the cheapest way to give yourself the crit chance you need to be consistently critting. and ghostblade gives you the damage, AS, and MS you need.... | ||
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