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On October 23 2010 02:37 phantem wrote: at least you can patch, i'm on a campus that blocks p2p downloads so i get to wait forever on the standalone client >< Can't you turn off p2p?
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Malphite not Shard, Malphite does Ground Slam.
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is awesome32274 Posts
Im not a high level player, but I have been playing a lot with Kennen and even in match ups against tanky heroes (like garen) every time they come close I just combo them and the leave without even hitting me (or maybe 1 hit) and they lose 1/4 ~ 1/3 of their health.
The most difficult thing to deal with as kennen imo are disables. Things like Swain talons or Morgana's root just turn your flipping ninja into a sitting duck
edit: I usually 1v2 lane, so that's from a 1v2 perspective. I don't know how effective a disable is on Kennen is 1v1 as you can easily escape once the stun/disable wears off.
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In those lane, you just need to know how to play them. With Swain, don't move in predictable patterns. Swain has to land the snare in advance. Worst comes to worst, you can always E and retreat if you're far enough back. E and strafe left or right if you're up close to Swain.
With Morg, stand behind creeps, pretty simple.
In a 1v2 lane, just rely more on sniping last hits with your Q.
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is awesome32274 Posts
Yeah, that's what I do 1v2, getting all the creeps in one wave with kennen (using Q and W) is SO easy.
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Anyone has bought Lux and has some feedback about her ?
I've played against one and she didnt do well at all. (The guy was 1400).
She seemed very squishy and easy to kill but it was probably the guy build.
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On October 23 2010 02:43 Southlight wrote: Malphite not Shard, Malphite does Ground Slam. most laning malphites I've seen lean heavily on shard.
EDIT: to be fair though, I haven't seen many laning Malphites throughout the course of my LoL career.
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Unless you know you're gonna be super aggro in lane and have a partner who can net you kills, ground slam is more mana efficient. Malphite usually ends up last hitting and retreating to refresh his passive, and if you have some sort of mana-regen/caster build going on, you are gimping your lategame.
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On October 23 2010 02:56 Mogwai wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2010 02:43 Southlight wrote: Malphite not Shard, Malphite does Ground Slam. most laning malphites I've seen lean heavily on shard. EDIT: to be fair though, I haven't seen many laning Malphites throughout the course of my LoL career.
Solo Malphite is doable but it's very matchup-dependant, and that's probably why it's not done much. There're some heroes he utterly trashes, and there're other heroes he can't lay a finger on.
In any case against ranged heroes you just shard them once to catch up (level 1 shard) and GS them. Rinse repeat. Same goes to melee heroes to an extent, but by using a strong GS you can basically punish melee heroes for creeping... if they don't have innate durability (ie. XZ can just heal it up).
Edit: And the Sharding Malphites in side lanes are stupid. They try to harass with him when in reality he's a big fucking nuker. If he ends up being laned with a hero that can't disable/nuke with him then "oh well," but yeah. It's like leveling Dazzle on Taric, trying to harass people, and saying "this is a shitty hero" lol.
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I tend to lane malph with early Q development and ignite/clarity. Malph can Q all day with clarity (usually I don't even need to buy potions), so he actually gets pretty good zone control. Past level 6, I usually try to gank mid or jungle (especially if jungle is warwick, watching war run from malph is lolz), then I get into a lane with their carry, and harrass them to shit. Never let the carry freefarm, constantly be calling in ganks, and you've gimped the carry pretty hard. Malph is the god of chasing, so you should be able to kill them with assistance from a teammate (or by yourself, if you're good enough).
Save your ult for the inevitable teamfight, then when it begins and they clump up, pop W, R into the hero cluster, hit E, and Q the weakest while your team whales on them. Win teamfight, take towers, win game ^^
(note: this is a level 20 summoner's build, probably not viable once you start running into people who actually know how to play).
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On October 23 2010 02:56 Mogwai wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2010 02:43 Southlight wrote: Malphite not Shard, Malphite does Ground Slam. most laning malphites I've seen lean heavily on shard. EDIT: to be fair though, I haven't seen many laning Malphites throughout the course of my LoL career. I've solo'd top as cho vs a really good malphite who went EWEWER and rushed GA. He farmed it in like 7 minutes and I just straight up could not do anything because ground slam and his auto attack were doing a shit ton of damage. I think he killed me twice in lane and got 2x my farm, which is retarded because at that time I was farming every creep in a solo lane vs everyone.
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I've played a hell of a lot of Malphite and in my experience I have leveled Q. At level 2 it actually starts doing pretty good damage (135) with level 5 doing 300 which for a guy who's not particularly a mage, is pretty good. I harass with Q constantly in both 2v2 and 1v2 as I have quite the mana regen (without items) and if I haven't killed them before level 6, then they are dead for sure. Most heroes around 400-500hp will die with R E Q and if they don't, the leveled up Q's slow gives them no chance of escape, and now that the cooldown was reduced in the patch it's going to be even better. His damage from E is pretty good but in the later game when you're floating 200-300 armour it will add 70% of that to his E, not to mention his W will increase his armour by 40% at level 5, which will give your E a very nice 220 base damage + 150-300 damage which I've seen.
When I'm about to initiate in a team fight where everyone is zagging around, if I can land in to at least two squishies for 400 damage R + W E for 350-500 aoe and then Q one of the squishies, if both of them are near dead then Q will bury one.
And then you chase the other and punch them in the face while no one can damage you
I may have to try that EWEW style with AD, sounds cool
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On October 22 2010 23:58 ProV1 wrote: Spudboy's too noob to be in a list. Spud, yeah, he's the one guy I forgot on my list that belongs in the top players 100%.
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On October 23 2010 02:56 ScDeluX wrote: Anyone has bought Lux and has some feedback about her ?
I've played against one and she didnt do well at all. (The guy was 1400).
She seemed very squishy and easy to kill but it was probably the guy build.
Lux can't get kills by herself vs. equal competition, but she plays a good ranged support/carry. If you're good with characters like sona and morgana (if you use shield on others) the play style is mildly similar. Stay away from fights, be on the fringe, rack up assists, kill steal with your ult
Since no other items synergize with her good enough, just build pure AP. She doesn't seem to have as much mana issues, so try skipping tear/RoA and go straight to NLR+boots3 for your first/second trip back.
And get the sorceress skin, it's baller in game.
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On October 23 2010 02:42 Mogwai wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2010 01:27 LoCicero wrote:On October 23 2010 00:59 Mogwai wrote:On October 23 2010 00:56 IntoTheWow wrote: I like Kennen. I dislike Sona, she cuts my ult. LET ME ULT IN PEACE WOMAN. Kennen is strong as hell. Goddamn, I think I need some Locicero/Maknoon input on whether that matchup is impossible for Pantheon, because he's the only character other than Urgot (lol) who consistently rapes me sideways in lane  . He's super fun to play though, love his character design. You are indeed correct, a well played Kennen will beat Pantheon in the lane. For every Q Panth can throw, Kennen can usually hit with his W passive, hit with its active, hit with other auto attacks (his range is suuuuper long) and possibly his Q depending on the situation. I don't think I've run into anyone that rapes Panth as hard as Sion (in top lane) though. Panth can't break lvl 2 shield and from then on it's gg. Sion free farms while Panth gets destroyed. oh true. For some reason though I haven't run into that matchup forever, lol. It's always Morg and Vlad and ranged carries and I'm just like, YES! HOORAY PANTH! yea, the thing about the Kennen matchup is that if he positions intelligently, you can't ever land a Q without taking a shit ton more damage. And if you go for a toe to toe full burst fight, you get raped even harder because the cost you pay for disengaging Kennen is like 2 auto-attacks + Q + W passive + W active (stun) + another auto attack or two and Pantheon's just like "O_O, jesus fucking christ, I guess I'll just farm 1/2 Ken's CS with spear shot last hitting  ." Kennen's autoattack range is 575 (25 less than spear shot) so he can pretty easily do that trade + a shuriken + W whenever you try to do anything, bleh, it's just a savage beating. Show nested quote +On October 23 2010 01:46 BrownBear wrote: Malphite also tends to trash Pantheon, just by virtue of having a fuckton of armor vs Pant's mostly physical damage (both of his jumps do magic damage, but his w is just a stun, and his r is easily avoidable unless you're stunlocked or retarded). Malphite never solos. I dunno what would happen exactly but I'm at least 90% certain that Pantheon would just dictate the pace of the matchup because Spear Shot is way better than Seismic Shard for low level efficiency in terms of both CD and damage/mana.
His passive is pretty op compared to pantheon's shield.
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Pantheon is so useless late game from my experience playing as him.
His HSS just guarantees that he stands there while other enemies pound on him, and he's pretty squishy as well.
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On October 23 2010 03:42 Pandonetho wrote: Pantheon is so useless late game from my experience playing as him.
His HSS just guarantees that he stands there while other enemies pound on him, and he's pretty squishy as well. Youre not supposed to be lvl'ing hss, lol.
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On October 23 2010 03:51 HazMat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2010 03:42 Pandonetho wrote: Pantheon is so useless late game from my experience playing as him.
His HSS just guarantees that he stands there while other enemies pound on him, and he's pretty squishy as well. Youre not supposed to be lvl'ing hss, lol.
Proper Pantheon Levelling build:
5 Q 5 W 1 E 3 R
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On October 23 2010 03:42 Pandonetho wrote: Pantheon is so useless late game from my experience playing as him.
His HSS just guarantees that he stands there while other enemies pound on him, and he's pretty squishy as well.
Qq more I mean, q more
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I started playing Lux too, I quite like her. The Garen/Lux is pretty deadly, I just love her moves and all the lights and stuff, it's so cool. Ensnare peeps running at or away, light blast thing because it's cool when you fire it, when it stays there, and when it explodes and who can't love a laser beam every 24 seconds.
And man I just love when you ensare, fire light boom after auto attack and just when you're next attack lands, explode e and babooooom then laser for fun.
What are your item builds on her?
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