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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 19:08:24
October 22 2010 19:08 GMT
#26161
what's a good way to play against bushes garen as a squishy? I got owned as annie the other night, and even though my galio lanemate was pretty goddamn useless I'm sure I played it wrong.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
byFd
Profile Joined May 2006
Germany620 Posts
October 22 2010 19:10 GMT
#26162
put a ward in the bush? or if u dont want to put one in there, avoid the bush and dont go near it :D
(>°_°)>
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
October 22 2010 19:14 GMT
#26163
dont ward the bush, thats kind of a waste imo -.-

i stand near the river entrance. As long as you're paying attention to what the enemy jungler is doing + have a ward at dragon, its not too big of a deal. Its especially good for bottom-left's team, since it has an easier way back to lane.

It also helps if you have a duo lane that can punish the shit out of garen when he shows his ugly mug. In theory, annie + galio should be able to do that, disintegrate + flamecone + tornado + lazer = shittons of burst dmg, which should make the garen back the fuck off.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Rice
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1332 Posts
October 22 2010 19:21 GMT
#26164
whats the best heimer item build
Freedom will be defended at the cost of civil liberties.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
October 22 2010 19:24 GMT
#26165
galio was pretty dumb though, he wouldn't nuke except to farm... and after garen spins he wouldn't step into the bushes to give me line of sight for disint. So really couldn't rely on him. More interested in solo tactics.

If you aren't playing the lane right from the start I think it's pretty much over too, after level six he can just ghost at you and you die if you haven't been doing too well.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
October 22 2010 19:24 GMT
#26166
On October 23 2010 04:21 Rice wrote:
whats the best heimer item build

lots of rings (doran's spam into z-ring)
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
October 22 2010 19:25 GMT
#26167
On October 23 2010 04:21 Rice wrote:
whats the best heimer item build

Doran's ring, zhonya, boots. From then you'll be sieging or jungle trapping so your income will be extremely low.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
October 22 2010 19:29 GMT
#26168
wat, the best heimers nowadays take advantage of imbamissile poking and have stopped doing that stupid siege crap until lategame. Dont max your turrets, and emp + missile = fantastic farming anyways. Still, get zring early, but sieging and jungle trapping are really gimmicky and arent really a fleshed out way of playing heimer.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
radmax86
Profile Joined September 2004
United States437 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 19:33:09
October 22 2010 19:31 GMT
#26169
On October 22 2010 23:42 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2010 18:17 Caller wrote:
troll tiems!

rank tl players in terms of skill and/or bravery

flamewar ensues

Locodoco, Redtooth and Yiruru seem to be a cut above the rest in terms of skill. Then it's probably Brees and Southlight and then there's a big clusterfuck of comparably skilled players afterwards imoimoimoimoimo.



locodoco
aaerox

... gap ...

uta (plays a few heroes very well)
Neo (can play a lot of heroes consistently, but never makes me go "wow!")

... gap ...

after that there is a clusterfuck that includes me, turkey, smash, ezpz, soner, chrispy, morzas, 5hit, red, and probably 2-3 others i'm forgetting.

I haven't played with brees, wra, spudboy or yiruru in a long time, so I'm not completely sure where they stand at this point. For some reason I feel like brees is a has-been has more trolling ability than actual skill. Wra was good 6 months ago but he rarely plays now and was only good at one hero, I doubt he could separate himself from the clusterfuck pack at this point. Spud probably belongs with the uta/neo group based on his stats/reputation, and Yiruru quit, so I don't really care about him.

spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
October 22 2010 19:47 GMT
#26170
I like Ring > Cata > Zhonyas > RoA on Heimer. Boots after NLR or Zhonyas. I just prefer to have more regen and health.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
October 22 2010 19:52 GMT
#26171
or you could do the super pro 5 archangel's + zhonya's Heimer build. I hear that's good.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
October 22 2010 19:52 GMT
#26172
#1 manner malzahar right here kekekeke
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 20:06:34
October 22 2010 20:00 GMT
#26173
On October 23 2010 04:31 radmax86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2010 23:42 Mogwai wrote:
On October 22 2010 18:17 Caller wrote:
troll tiems!

rank tl players in terms of skill and/or bravery

flamewar ensues

Locodoco, Redtooth and Yiruru seem to be a cut above the rest in terms of skill. Then it's probably Brees and Southlight and then there's a big clusterfuck of comparably skilled players afterwards imoimoimoimoimo.



locodoco
aaerox

... gap ...

uta (plays a few heroes very well)
Neo (can play a lot of heroes consistently, but never makes me go "wow!")

... gap ...

after that there is a clusterfuck that includes me, turkey, smash, ezpz, soner, chrispy, morzas, 5hit, red, and probably 2-3 others i'm forgetting.
I haven't played with brees, wra, spudboy or yiruru in a long time, so I'm not completely sure where they stand at this point. For some reason I feel like brees is a has-been has more trolling ability than actual skill. Wra was good 6 months ago but he rarely plays now and was only good at one hero, I doubt he could separate himself from the clusterfuck pack at this point. Spud probably belongs with the uta/neo group based on his stats/reputation, and Yiruru quit, so I don't really care about him.


Disagree with the bolds. Dunno who Morzas is so I can't say. Aaerox is really good but not on a total new lvl from neo/uta.
No offense to people, not that it really matters though lol.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 20:13:09
October 22 2010 20:10 GMT
#26174
From my experience the only real thing that distinguishes Aaerox and Neo from the clusterfuck of good TLers is that they have quite a bit of character diversity. Whereas many of the rest of us are 1 trick ponies (either 1 specific character or 1 specific role), they seem to be able to contribute solid games regardless of character choice. They just don't have games that wow me on the level of a good Loco/Redtooth/Spud/Yiruru/Brees/Utah game, though to be fair I haven't seen Brees in awhile so I'm not sure if he's rusting at all... His style just seems to just revolve around very good game sense and character diversity though, which is why he's such a successful troll, so I'm having a hard time believing that not tryharding would actually have much impact on his abilities.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
October 22 2010 20:14 GMT
#26175
Sadly I've never got to play a game with Brees
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
October 22 2010 20:17 GMT
#26176
All that matters is Shake/Turkey/Red #1 TT Troll Squad.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
October 22 2010 20:18 GMT
#26177
My most distinct memories of Brees are when he first decided he would try playing with Baikin, Utah, Turkey and I and basically completely shattered our impression that we were any good by carrying us game after game with seemingly random characters that we thought were mediocre at the time (I remember we were all shocked when his heimer was tearing the other team a new asshole, this was way back in the day).
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
October 22 2010 20:18 GMT
#26178
On October 23 2010 05:17 red_ wrote:
All that matters is Shake/Turkey/Red #1 TT Troll Squad.

Speaking of which....
where are you guys, I just went 12-3 as Teemo all by myself
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
October 22 2010 20:20 GMT
#26179
On October 23 2010 05:18 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2010 05:17 red_ wrote:
All that matters is Shake/Turkey/Red #1 TT Troll Squad.

Speaking of which....
where are you guys, I just went 12-3 as Teemo all by myself


@ work, gonna head home soon and sleep, might play tonight we'll see
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
October 22 2010 20:21 GMT
#26180
[image loading]

if ur lux build dont look like this you're not very brave
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
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