• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 02:24
CEST 08:24
KST 15:24
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play1Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview8
Community News
[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)65ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo31Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611
StarCraft 2
General
Mizenhauer's Douyu Cup Preview Is the larve respawn broken? 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play Possible bug in the new patch?
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) INu's Battles#17 <BO.9> Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament GSL CK #4 20-21th June
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed
Brood War
General
vespene.gg — BW replays in browser Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ? ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool BW General Discussion [BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues The Casual Games of the Week Thread [BSL22] GosuLeague Casts - Tue & Thu 22:00 CEST CSLAN 4 is Coming!
Strategy
Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread [H]Internet/Gaming Cafe Tips and Tricks
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Listen To The Coaches!
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6909 users

League of Legends [New forum, check OP!] - Page 1265

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 1263 1264 1265 1266 1267 1431 Next
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
October 19 2010 07:48 GMT
#25281
To be fair, 40% armor pen with spear is pretty frickin' huge.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Nao
Profile Joined October 2008
Poland166 Posts
October 19 2010 07:48 GMT
#25282
On October 19 2010 15:31 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
ugh wtf rune changes?
Now I have to remake my warwick jungle page :'(

Nope, only counting raw stats @ lvl1 with aspd runes WW's dps is 45,4 and with flat +dmg it's 45,3 and obviously aspd runes will give increasing returns.
On October 19 2010 16:28 Shizuru~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2010 16:03 Navi wrote:
lux garen is going to be such a ghey lane t-t

DEMACIAAAAAAA!!!!!
does Lux screams that as well?

You can hear her scream at last seconds of her spotlight, quite loud i say
On October 19 2010 16:29 MidKnight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2010 14:49 H wrote:
* Last Whisper unique armor penetration now functions with abilities (but still not against turrets)


hello. this looks interesting

Isn't this change like SUPER huge?
Doesn't it mean Physical damage attacks (Garen's Judgment/Panth's Spear etc.) now do 40% more damage with whisper?

40% apen =/= +40% dmg
you get like +15%(squishy) to 30%(tank) dmg from LW
Yeah, and they nerfed MF's ulti by mere 5% :/
One cannot out-kwanro Kwanro. -Trap
EunByuL
Profile Joined September 2010
Vietnam77 Posts
October 19 2010 08:10 GMT
#25283
What type of runes do you go on Ashe?

Already got armor pen. red runes (donno their name )
Tôi không
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
October 19 2010 08:12 GMT
#25284
arpen quints, cdr or cdr/level glyphs, mreg/5/lvl seals
ô¿ô
Gandalf
Profile Joined August 2004
Pakistan1905 Posts
October 19 2010 08:21 GMT
#25285
On October 19 2010 16:33 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2010 14:59 Gandalf wrote:
A couple of questions:

Of all the heroes I've played so far, I've enjoyed going solo mid with Miss Fortune, Ashe, and Tristana the most. This probably means I have an affinity for ranged dps/AD heroes that are good candidates for soloing. Any other heroes similar to these that I should be looking to purchase? Twitch and teemo seem like appropriate choices, but I'd like to start with the better ones first since heroes are pretty expensive.

Second, I'm level 19 right now, and gearing up to start making my first rune page. Since I plan on playing mostly AD/dps heroes, my first rune page must cater to them. Any suggestions on how to set up my rune page?

Thanks!

It depends, all of us tend to personalize our pages a bit but the base dps page is armor penetration marks and quints and mp5/lv seals and glyphs. If you feel like you've enjoyed taking mid with those characters it's probably because those characters are strong mids with simple gameplay, not because you have some "affinity" for them.

Do NOT become one of those players that can only play ranged dps, they really make champion select not fun because your team is like "well, we need a tank/jungler/caster" and you're like "i play ashe, trist and MF".


Yeah I try to play with all the available heroes, because obviously understanding all the elements in the game is important. I play with two friends and I don't like hogging the solo spot anyway.

There are some casters I liked quite a bit too (eg Ryze and Annie), but for my first rune page I've still decided to go the dps/AD way, since I do enjoy those a wee bit more
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 19 2010 08:26 GMT
#25286
Ok.
So I know Urgot is bottom tier, and on paper he's pretty awful, but I have been ROCKING games with him all day. He is a hilariously fun champ to play, and hard as hell to kill.
I've been building him Meki into boots/manamune to sheen-->triforce then an atma's
Most games have been ending by then.
I have been building him AD even though his scaling isn't great because the damage/movespeed from triforce turn him from a decent harasser into a force to be reckoned with. He eats enemy carries for breakfast and is just tanky enough to survive a teamfight to boot.
I'm just wondering aside from building him tankier, is there anything else I could be doing on him to improve my game?

(Obligatory brag post: Just went 13/1 in a game where I was in a 1v2 lane against Ashe/Nunu. Malady Teemos on both sides. Good times.)
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
October 19 2010 08:34 GMT
#25287
On October 19 2010 16:48 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
To be fair, 40% armor pen with spear is pretty frickin' huge.


it is, but did flat ARPentration works with spear in the first place?
Yiruru
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada690 Posts
October 19 2010 09:04 GMT
#25288
Ok, so I was joking around with Loci on how it would take 4 months for Sivir to get fixed, then she somehow gets fixed this patch.

First patch by Riot where I can say everything fits, although I'm not sure why Kog/Twitch didn't get nerfs while MF did.
byFd
Profile Joined May 2006
Germany620 Posts
October 19 2010 09:05 GMT
#25289
malady remake worth it on kayle?
if yes, when? rageblade -> malady -> nashors? or malady after nashors? or what?

also, atmas remake didnt make it?
(>°_°)>
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
October 19 2010 09:05 GMT
#25290
Are there any streams of Utahime playing kass? Would love to see that
ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
October 19 2010 09:08 GMT
#25291
On October 19 2010 18:05 byFd wrote:
malady remake worth it on kayle?
if yes, when? rageblade -> malady -> nashors? or malady after nashors? or what?

also, atmas remake didnt make it?


Ive been going Rageblade/Ghostblade so doesn't really fit into my build..

you can test it out right after rageblade and see if you like it..
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
Yiruru
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada690 Posts
October 19 2010 09:21 GMT
#25292
The LW change was sorely needed for Sivir. It helps Garen and Panth, but not by much.

And yes, Flat APen always worked with skills. % used to work until the LW Turret nerf.
Llama
Profile Joined November 2008
United Kingdom69 Posts
October 19 2010 09:47 GMT
#25293
On October 19 2010 14:18 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2010 14:02 HazMat wrote:
Rofl, ad runes are so OP now it's ridiculous. Every carry is going to forced to have these to be able to lane.

Looks like red's will be a bit below 3 ad.
yellows at around 1.5.

So 15 armpen vs 27 ad at level 1. Similar ratio's with quints I'd assume.

Note to everyone quoting these figures: the AD rune changes already went through in the shop. Marks were previously 0.32 each, 0.95 is the new value.
byFd
Profile Joined May 2006
Germany620 Posts
October 19 2010 09:50 GMT
#25294
On October 19 2010 18:08 BraveGhost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2010 18:05 byFd wrote:
malady remake worth it on kayle?
if yes, when? rageblade -> malady -> nashors? or malady after nashors? or what?

also, atmas remake didnt make it?


Ive been going Rageblade/Ghostblade so doesn't really fit into my build..

you can test it out right after rageblade and see if you like it..


ghostblade after rageblade?

never really tried that.
i usually went rageblade then nashors and then worked on lich bane, but most games i don't get it completed.
(>°_°)>
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
October 19 2010 09:53 GMT
#25295
WTF is a lich bane

just triple stack elixirs into defensive items or a black cleaver depending on what's happening
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
October 19 2010 09:57 GMT
#25296
On October 19 2010 18:47 Llama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2010 14:18 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
On October 19 2010 14:02 HazMat wrote:
Rofl, ad runes are so OP now it's ridiculous. Every carry is going to forced to have these to be able to lane.

Looks like red's will be a bit below 3 ad.
yellows at around 1.5.

So 15 armpen vs 27 ad at level 1. Similar ratio's with quints I'd assume.

Note to everyone quoting these figures: the AD rune changes already went through in the shop. Marks were previously 0.32 each, 0.95 is the new value.

good to know, i guess thats why it seemed so OP
You can't milk those!
byFd
Profile Joined May 2006
Germany620 Posts
October 19 2010 09:59 GMT
#25297
On October 19 2010 18:53 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
WTF is a lich bane

just triple stack elixirs into defensive items or a black cleaver depending on what's happening

ya i didn't feel lich bane to be the optimum, but it looked so nice when Q -> E and i bursted so much of their health :D
(>°_°)>
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
October 19 2010 10:02 GMT
#25298
On October 19 2010 18:47 Llama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2010 14:18 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
On October 19 2010 14:02 HazMat wrote:
Rofl, ad runes are so OP now it's ridiculous. Every carry is going to forced to have these to be able to lane.

Looks like red's will be a bit below 3 ad.
yellows at around 1.5.

So 15 armpen vs 27 ad at level 1. Similar ratio's with quints I'd assume.

Note to everyone quoting these figures: the AD rune changes already went through in the shop. Marks were previously 0.32 each, 0.95 is the new value.


funny thing is that its still shows the old values of AD/ARP runes in my rune page, while in the shop pages the values are not the same.... hmm...
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
October 19 2010 10:17 GMT
#25299
The Atma's change didn't go through?

Sooooo they completely messed up my Ashe build? If Whisper works with Volley, there is much more incentive to go for something like IE/LW. Also if APen runes get weaker and AD stronger, you consequently want to keep APen to a minimum (just enough to optimize early game) and get AD instead, then get LW for any further APen.

I'll probably change my Ashe drastically... However, with IE/LW you don't get any CDR, which gimps your overall damage output...

Is the patch up in the US already? How much IP for Lux?
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Yiruru
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada690 Posts
October 19 2010 10:24 GMT
#25300
Atmas change didn't go through. Lux is 3150.

AD Runes only better early game, and it's doubtful 9 AD will win you a lane with Ashe. LW will be better than Brutal, CDR or not simply because it's much better against Tanks.
Prev 1 1263 1264 1265 1266 1267 1431 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Douyu Cup 2020
05:00
2026 - Day 2
Neeb vs Impact
MacSed vs Cyan
Scarlett vs Kelazhur
INnoVation vs Dear
WardiTV259
CranKy Ducklings156
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft684
Ryung 514
Nina 177
RuFF_SC2 166
ProTech128
StateSC2 64
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 4387
GuemChi 2957
Zeus 501
ZergMaN 32
Noble 14
Bale 13
Icarus 7
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm105
League of Legends
JimRising 842
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 1060
Other Games
summit1g11731
C9.Mang0669
Mew2King145
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick855
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 107
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• 3DClanTV 75
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP22
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1290
• Stunt470
Upcoming Events
Big Brain Bouts
9h 36m
Jumy vs eGGz
Harstem vs sebesdes
TriGGeR vs HeRoMaRinE
Douyu Cup 2020
22h 36m
Maestros of the Game
1d 6h
herO vs Classic
Maru vs Serral
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
1d 7h
Douyu Cup 2020
1d 22h
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
2 days
Online Event
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
4 days
Bombastic Starleague
4 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
OSC
5 days
CrankTV Team League
6 days
Bombastic Starleague
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSCL: Masked Kings S4
WardiTV Spring 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 1
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
SCTL 2026 Spring
Douyu Cup 2026
Maestros of the Game 2
Murky Cup 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
BCC 2026
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
Heroes Pulsing #3
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.