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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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Nao
Poland166 Posts
On October 19 2010 15:31 Xenocide_Knight wrote: ugh wtf rune changes? Now I have to remake my warwick jungle page :'( Nope, only counting raw stats @ lvl1 with aspd runes WW's dps is 45,4 and with flat +dmg it's 45,3 and obviously aspd runes will give increasing returns. On October 19 2010 16:28 Shizuru~ wrote: DEMACIAAAAAAA!!!!! does Lux screams that as well? You can hear her scream at last seconds of her spotlight, quite loud i say  On October 19 2010 16:29 MidKnight wrote: Isn't this change like SUPER huge? Doesn't it mean Physical damage attacks (Garen's Judgment/Panth's Spear etc.) now do 40% more damage with whisper? 40% apen =/= +40% dmg you get like +15%(squishy) to 30%(tank) dmg from LW Yeah, and they nerfed MF's ulti by mere 5% :/ | ||
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EunByuL
Vietnam77 Posts
Already got armor pen. red runes (donno their name  ) | ||
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R04R
United States1631 Posts
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Gandalf
Pakistan1905 Posts
On October 19 2010 16:33 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: It depends, all of us tend to personalize our pages a bit but the base dps page is armor penetration marks and quints and mp5/lv seals and glyphs. If you feel like you've enjoyed taking mid with those characters it's probably because those characters are strong mids with simple gameplay, not because you have some "affinity" for them. Do NOT become one of those players that can only play ranged dps, they really make champion select not fun because your team is like "well, we need a tank/jungler/caster" and you're like "i play ashe, trist and MF". Yeah I try to play with all the available heroes, because obviously understanding all the elements in the game is important. I play with two friends and I don't like hogging the solo spot anyway. There are some casters I liked quite a bit too (eg Ryze and Annie), but for my first rune page I've still decided to go the dps/AD way, since I do enjoy those a wee bit more | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
So I know Urgot is bottom tier, and on paper he's pretty awful, but I have been ROCKING games with him all day. He is a hilariously fun champ to play, and hard as hell to kill. I've been building him Meki into boots/manamune to sheen-->triforce then an atma's Most games have been ending by then. I have been building him AD even though his scaling isn't great because the damage/movespeed from triforce turn him from a decent harasser into a force to be reckoned with. He eats enemy carries for breakfast and is just tanky enough to survive a teamfight to boot. I'm just wondering aside from building him tankier, is there anything else I could be doing on him to improve my game? (Obligatory brag post: Just went 13/1 in a game where I was in a 1v2 lane against Ashe/Nunu. Malady Teemos on both sides. Good times.) | ||
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Shizuru~
Malaysia1676 Posts
On October 19 2010 16:48 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: To be fair, 40% armor pen with spear is pretty frickin' huge. it is, but did flat ARPentration works with spear in the first place? | ||
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Yiruru
Canada690 Posts
First patch by Riot where I can say everything fits, although I'm not sure why Kog/Twitch didn't get nerfs while MF did. | ||
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byFd
Germany620 Posts
if yes, when? rageblade -> malady -> nashors? or malady after nashors? or what? also, atmas remake didnt make it? | ||
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Ota Solgryn
Denmark2011 Posts
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BlueBird.
United States3889 Posts
On October 19 2010 18:05 byFd wrote: malady remake worth it on kayle? if yes, when? rageblade -> malady -> nashors? or malady after nashors? or what? also, atmas remake didnt make it? Ive been going Rageblade/Ghostblade so doesn't really fit into my build.. you can test it out right after rageblade and see if you like it.. | ||
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Yiruru
Canada690 Posts
And yes, Flat APen always worked with skills. % used to work until the LW Turret nerf. | ||
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Llama
United Kingdom69 Posts
On October 19 2010 14:18 SnK-Arcbound wrote: Looks like red's will be a bit below 3 ad. yellows at around 1.5. So 15 armpen vs 27 ad at level 1. Similar ratio's with quints I'd assume. Note to everyone quoting these figures: the AD rune changes already went through in the shop. Marks were previously 0.32 each, 0.95 is the new value. | ||
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byFd
Germany620 Posts
On October 19 2010 18:08 BraveGhost wrote: Ive been going Rageblade/Ghostblade so doesn't really fit into my build.. you can test it out right after rageblade and see if you like it.. ghostblade after rageblade? never really tried that. i usually went rageblade then nashors and then worked on lich bane, but most games i don't get it completed. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
just triple stack elixirs into defensive items or a black cleaver depending on what's happening | ||
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StuffedTurkey
United States859 Posts
On October 19 2010 18:47 Llama wrote: Note to everyone quoting these figures: the AD rune changes already went through in the shop. Marks were previously 0.32 each, 0.95 is the new value. good to know, i guess thats why it seemed so OP | ||
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byFd
Germany620 Posts
On October 19 2010 18:53 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: WTF is a lich bane just triple stack elixirs into defensive items or a black cleaver depending on what's happening ya i didn't feel lich bane to be the optimum, but it looked so nice when Q -> E and i bursted so much of their health :D | ||
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Shizuru~
Malaysia1676 Posts
On October 19 2010 18:47 Llama wrote: Note to everyone quoting these figures: the AD rune changes already went through in the shop. Marks were previously 0.32 each, 0.95 is the new value. funny thing is that its still shows the old values of AD/ARP runes in my rune page, while in the shop pages the values are not the same.... hmm... | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
Sooooo they completely messed up my Ashe build? If Whisper works with Volley, there is much more incentive to go for something like IE/LW. Also if APen runes get weaker and AD stronger, you consequently want to keep APen to a minimum (just enough to optimize early game) and get AD instead, then get LW for any further APen. I'll probably change my Ashe drastically... However, with IE/LW you don't get any CDR, which gimps your overall damage output... Is the patch up in the US already? How much IP for Lux? | ||
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Yiruru
Canada690 Posts
AD Runes only better early game, and it's doubtful 9 AD will win you a lane with Ashe. LW will be better than Brutal, CDR or not simply because it's much better against Tanks. | ||
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