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shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
October 17 2010 17:10 GMT
#24821
On October 18 2010 01:57 arb wrote:
fucking im about to start banning morgana over kogmaw or something, most ridiculous fucking hero on earth


first pick morgana into win

she's one of the only heroes who can carry and support at the same time, if she's not carrying she's one of the best support and she does a fuckton of damage with 2 stuns

morgana >>>> kog maw in solo que cuz teams don't know how to abues kog maw. in premade it's not as bad but morgana is still better
520
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 17:30:41
October 17 2010 17:28 GMT
#24822
On October 18 2010 01:56 Kaniol wrote:
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It DOES state so. Don't rely on descriptions in the character info, they are bad. Read tooltips

It should be pretty simple how the targeting on this works.

1) Get a list of every enemy champion and monster within Hymn of Valor's range.
2) If there are enemy champions in the list, target up to two champions which are closest to Sona.
3) If your list of targets is less than two, choose the closest monsters which are closest to Sona until your list of targets is two.
4) Pew pew sound beams.
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oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
October 17 2010 17:31 GMT
#24823
Fun games, guys. I think AP Gangplank > Jungle Xin, but not by all that much. Next time I promise I'll play champs that can actually win.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
October 17 2010 17:41 GMT
#24824
On October 18 2010 02:10 shawster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 01:57 arb wrote:
fucking im about to start banning morgana over kogmaw or something, most ridiculous fucking hero on earth


first pick morgana into win

she's one of the only heroes who can carry and support at the same time, if she's not carrying she's one of the best support and she does a fuckton of damage with 2 stuns

morgana >>>> kog maw in solo que cuz teams don't know how to abues kog maw. in premade it's not as bad but morgana is still better

Morgana is so dumb its like, kogmaw is annoying cause of his range but he can die shes like
FLASH IN
HIT ULT
ZHONYAS
entire team takes 1000 damage and you lose
its so dumb
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
October 17 2010 17:50 GMT
#24825
On October 18 2010 02:41 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 02:10 shawster wrote:
On October 18 2010 01:57 arb wrote:
fucking im about to start banning morgana over kogmaw or something, most ridiculous fucking hero on earth


first pick morgana into win

she's one of the only heroes who can carry and support at the same time, if she's not carrying she's one of the best support and she does a fuckton of damage with 2 stuns

morgana >>>> kog maw in solo que cuz teams don't know how to abues kog maw. in premade it's not as bad but morgana is still better

Morgana is so dumb its like, kogmaw is annoying cause of his range but he can die shes like
FLASH IN
HIT ULT
ZHONYAS
entire team takes 1000 damage and you lose
its so dumb

Morg's my favorite champ in basically every aspect.... in-game, fluff, etc.

Honestly I think the biggest problems with her are the the zhonyas/ult combo, and black shield.

BS needs a nerf of some sort, but I'm not exactly sure what. But eeesh I hope she doesn't get toooo nerfed o.o;
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
Rice
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1332 Posts
October 17 2010 17:59 GMT
#24826
there are wayyyy too many banworthy heroes in my opinion, I think bans should be increased to 3 per team.
Freedom will be defended at the cost of civil liberties.
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
October 17 2010 18:01 GMT
#24827
Morg has always pretty much treaded the line between 'not good' and 'too good.' They make some very slight adjustments now and then and she never seems to be 'in a solid place.'
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
October 17 2010 18:20 GMT
#24828
So even though he's obviously not as powerful as Amumu, I've been having a lot more fun playing as Nunu (jungling of course). What's the "correct" build for him? You can start with basically any item because you jungle so easily...I've been starting Boots, working towards Banshee's Veil and Merc Treads, then usually Sunfire Cape and other tanky stuff. If our team is owning and my ganks are all working, I go for Rod of Ages off the first Catalyst instead of Veil and play more AP for fun.
Zero fighting.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 17 2010 18:32 GMT
#24829
On October 18 2010 03:20 Jaksiel wrote:
So even though he's obviously not as powerful as Amumu, I've been having a lot more fun playing as Nunu (jungling of course). What's the "correct" build for him? You can start with basically any item because you jungle so easily...I've been starting Boots, working towards Banshee's Veil and Merc Treads, then usually Sunfire Cape and other tanky stuff. If our team is owning and my ganks are all working, I go for Rod of Ages off the first Catalyst instead of Veil and play more AP for fun.

I always start Cloth+5Hpot or Cloth+2Hpot+Ward, which I turn into a HoG before I start building Catalyst-based stuff. Not sure if it's "correct" though.
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ShoreT
Profile Joined August 2008
United States489 Posts
October 17 2010 18:34 GMT
#24830
On Nunu I prefer Cloth Armor + 2 pots + ward. Run Tele / Smite. Tele to the ward you placed at red when they are doing it. Take it with a consume / smite combo.

From there I like Treads, Mejai, Banshee, Randuin in that order, although Mejai is situational. For skilling I prefer QEEW R>E>W>Q but a lot of people prefer to get more of Q.
Derp
Rice
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1332 Posts
October 17 2010 18:36 GMT
#24831
i start cloth + ward + 2 pot rush merc treads/banshee veil, then blue pot/stack trollfire capes.
Freedom will be defended at the cost of civil liberties.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
October 17 2010 18:38 GMT
#24832
On October 18 2010 02:50 Haemonculus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 02:41 arb wrote:
On October 18 2010 02:10 shawster wrote:
On October 18 2010 01:57 arb wrote:
fucking im about to start banning morgana over kogmaw or something, most ridiculous fucking hero on earth


first pick morgana into win

she's one of the only heroes who can carry and support at the same time, if she's not carrying she's one of the best support and she does a fuckton of damage with 2 stuns

morgana >>>> kog maw in solo que cuz teams don't know how to abues kog maw. in premade it's not as bad but morgana is still better

Morgana is so dumb its like, kogmaw is annoying cause of his range but he can die shes like
FLASH IN
HIT ULT
ZHONYAS
entire team takes 1000 damage and you lose
its so dumb

Morg's my favorite champ in basically every aspect.... in-game, fluff, etc.

Honestly I think the biggest problems with her are the the zhonyas/ult combo, and black shield.

BS needs a nerf of some sort, but I'm not exactly sure what. But eeesh I hope she doesn't get toooo nerfed o.o;

shield i dont really mind, but i think if they removed her ability to ult while reviving with GA/using zhonyas she'd be alot better (more balanced)
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
October 17 2010 18:40 GMT
#24833
On October 18 2010 03:36 Rice wrote:
i start cloth + ward + 2 pot rush merc treads/banshee veil, then blue pot/stack trollfire capes.


So you start cloth and don't build it into anything, or is there a HoG in there that you just don't mention?

I also skill QEEW R>E>W>Q, I've seen some people say you should get a second Q for faster jungling but he seems to jungle quite fast enough anyway and obviously the second Q doesn't help your ganks very much.
Zero fighting.
Rice
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1332 Posts
October 17 2010 18:51 GMT
#24834
On October 18 2010 03:40 Jaksiel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 03:36 Rice wrote:
i start cloth + ward + 2 pot rush merc treads/banshee veil, then blue pot/stack trollfire capes.


So you start cloth and don't build it into anything, or is there a HoG in there that you just don't mention?

I also skill QEEW R>E>W>Q, I've seen some people say you should get a second Q for faster jungling but he seems to jungle quite fast enough anyway and obviously the second Q doesn't help your ganks very much.


i usually GA/oracles if the game goes on long enough but lately I havent been building GA just opting for sunfires instead, also I like to get a 2nd lvl of Q pretty early on.
Freedom will be defended at the cost of civil liberties.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
October 17 2010 18:53 GMT
#24835
On October 18 2010 02:50 Haemonculus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 02:41 arb wrote:
On October 18 2010 02:10 shawster wrote:
On October 18 2010 01:57 arb wrote:
fucking im about to start banning morgana over kogmaw or something, most ridiculous fucking hero on earth


first pick morgana into win

she's one of the only heroes who can carry and support at the same time, if she's not carrying she's one of the best support and she does a fuckton of damage with 2 stuns

morgana >>>> kog maw in solo que cuz teams don't know how to abues kog maw. in premade it's not as bad but morgana is still better

Morgana is so dumb its like, kogmaw is annoying cause of his range but he can die shes like
FLASH IN
HIT ULT
ZHONYAS
entire team takes 1000 damage and you lose
its so dumb

Morg's my favorite champ in basically every aspect.... in-game, fluff, etc.

Honestly I think the biggest problems with her are the the zhonyas/ult combo, and black shield.

BS needs a nerf of some sort, but I'm not exactly sure what. But eeesh I hope she doesn't get toooo nerfed o.o;
BS just needs its scaling changed to something closer to .3-.5

Shouldn't need to bust out 2 full rounds of kass combo to get her shield down when i have 700 fucking ap and she has 300.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
October 17 2010 19:02 GMT
#24836
So i just thought of something cool
We all know Udyrs Tiger stance is useless, so what about replacing with something like
A spell that has a cd(sorta like sonas ult) that gives him the power of each stance for like 10 seconds all at once, but increases like turtles absorb by like 200, bears stun by a second, and phoenix stances damage by like 20 or something.

Or would that bee imbalanced =[
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 19:04:09
October 17 2010 19:03 GMT
#24837
Phreak said they're making it so that zhoonyas/ga stops abilities like Shackles/Judgement/Kennen's ulti etc..

edit to above: No, I don't think Udyr needs a buff.
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Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
October 17 2010 19:03 GMT
#24838
On October 18 2010 03:53 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 02:50 Haemonculus wrote:
On October 18 2010 02:41 arb wrote:
On October 18 2010 02:10 shawster wrote:
On October 18 2010 01:57 arb wrote:
fucking im about to start banning morgana over kogmaw or something, most ridiculous fucking hero on earth


first pick morgana into win

she's one of the only heroes who can carry and support at the same time, if she's not carrying she's one of the best support and she does a fuckton of damage with 2 stuns

morgana >>>> kog maw in solo que cuz teams don't know how to abues kog maw. in premade it's not as bad but morgana is still better

Morgana is so dumb its like, kogmaw is annoying cause of his range but he can die shes like
FLASH IN
HIT ULT
ZHONYAS
entire team takes 1000 damage and you lose
its so dumb

Morg's my favorite champ in basically every aspect.... in-game, fluff, etc.

Honestly I think the biggest problems with her are the the zhonyas/ult combo, and black shield.

BS needs a nerf of some sort, but I'm not exactly sure what. But eeesh I hope she doesn't get toooo nerfed o.o;
BS just needs its scaling changed to something closer to .3-.5

Shouldn't need to bust out 2 full rounds of kass combo to get her shield down when i have 700 fucking ap and she has 300.


Hmmm... I was going to say it's not the strength of the shield, but the frequency. At maxed cooldowns you have something like an 8 sec CD on a 6 sec shield.
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
October 17 2010 19:04 GMT
#24839
On October 18 2010 04:03 HazMat wrote:
Phreak said they're making it so that zhoonyas/ga stops abilities like Shackles/Judgement/Kennen's ulti etc..

edit to above: No, I don't think Udyr needs a buff.


Dang, big nerf. O_O
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 19:06:22
October 17 2010 19:05 GMT
#24840
On October 18 2010 04:03 Haemonculus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 03:53 L wrote:
On October 18 2010 02:50 Haemonculus wrote:
On October 18 2010 02:41 arb wrote:
On October 18 2010 02:10 shawster wrote:
On October 18 2010 01:57 arb wrote:
fucking im about to start banning morgana over kogmaw or something, most ridiculous fucking hero on earth


first pick morgana into win

she's one of the only heroes who can carry and support at the same time, if she's not carrying she's one of the best support and she does a fuckton of damage with 2 stuns

morgana >>>> kog maw in solo que cuz teams don't know how to abues kog maw. in premade it's not as bad but morgana is still better

Morgana is so dumb its like, kogmaw is annoying cause of his range but he can die shes like
FLASH IN
HIT ULT
ZHONYAS
entire team takes 1000 damage and you lose
its so dumb

Morg's my favorite champ in basically every aspect.... in-game, fluff, etc.

Honestly I think the biggest problems with her are the the zhonyas/ult combo, and black shield.

BS needs a nerf of some sort, but I'm not exactly sure what. But eeesh I hope she doesn't get toooo nerfed o.o;
BS just needs its scaling changed to something closer to .3-.5

Shouldn't need to bust out 2 full rounds of kass combo to get her shield down when i have 700 fucking ap and she has 300.


Hmmm... I was going to say it's not the strength of the shield, but the frequency. At maxed cooldowns you have something like an 8 sec CD on a 6 sec shield.

I don't really care about the frequency as long as I can have my team burst it down in 2-3 spells so we can land some CC on the target. Having it take 2k or so straight spell damage because of mitigation and the crazy scaling, however, is bullshit.

In other news, I think Morg/Kog is the most broken combination in the game.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
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