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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
October 17 2010 19:10 GMT
#24841
I find it so funny that Morg's shield has lasted so long in its current state, while they nerfed Shen's ult and his W has been worthless for months.
it's my first day
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
October 17 2010 19:18 GMT
#24842
Well from the look of the PTR notes, it looks like all of her AP ratios are going to take a bit of a hit. I'm hoping it's not too harsh.
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
October 17 2010 19:19 GMT
#24843
On October 18 2010 04:18 Haemonculus wrote:
Well from the look of the PTR notes, it looks like all of her AP ratios are going to take a bit of a hit. I'm hoping it's not too harsh.

link?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
October 17 2010 19:24 GMT
#24844
On October 18 2010 04:19 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 04:18 Haemonculus wrote:
Well from the look of the PTR notes, it looks like all of her AP ratios are going to take a bit of a hit. I'm hoping it's not too harsh.

link?

No idea where I saw it. Shurelia or whatnot had written them on IRC, and someone leaked it, and then riot tried to do cleanup, etc.

I'm peeking around the riot forums atm but I can't seem to find them anymore.
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 19:28:23
October 17 2010 19:26 GMT
#24845
Random question about Morg's shield: is the damage it takes counted before or after MRes/MPen is applied?

On October 18 2010 04:05 L wrote:
I don't really care about the frequency as long as I can have my team burst it down in 2-3 spells so we can land some CC on the target. Having it take 2k or so straight spell damage because of mitigation and the crazy scaling, however, is bullshit.

In other news, I think Morg/Kog is the most broken combination in the game.

wut

Shield is 300 + 1 per AP. 2k is even more of a gross exaggeration than is even necessary for this discussion.
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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 19:31:42
October 17 2010 19:31 GMT
#24846
Morg's shield includes mres. If she's got 300+ AP and her target has enough mres, then yes, it's possible for her shield to absorb 2k damage.
it's my first day
Kaneh
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada737 Posts
October 17 2010 19:43 GMT
#24847
remember when morg's shield REMOVED CCs?

yeah. how long did it take for them to fix that?

I blame the lack of good morgs who actually use black shield on people other than themselves. black shield on Yi. black shield on gallio. on kat. on garen. that one is pretty rediculous. it's like turning garen into olaf, only he has execute and aoes too.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 20:02:54
October 17 2010 19:52 GMT
#24848
On October 18 2010 04:31 myopia wrote:
Morg's shield includes mres. If she's got 300+ AP and her target has enough mres, then yes, it's possible for her shield to absorb 2k damage.

Oh geez. Yeah, that gets pretty absurd then. 300 AP and a 200 MRes target would be 1800 effective absorption, discounting MPen.
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Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
October 17 2010 19:55 GMT
#24849
On October 18 2010 04:43 Kaneh wrote:
remember when morg's shield REMOVED CCs?

yeah. how long did it take for them to fix that?

I blame the lack of good morgs who actually use black shield on people other than themselves. black shield on Yi. black shield on gallio. on kat. on garen. that one is pretty rediculous. it's like turning garen into olaf, only he has execute and aoes too.

I am greedy as hell with black shield in pub games. I don't trust random idiots to realize what's happening. My shield makes you resist CC and some magic damage... it does not make you totally invulnerable. I can't count how many times I've shielded some idiot who was running away, and dropped my combo on whoever was following him... just to have the mental cripple turn around and attack again and die horribly.

In ranked matches or arranged though I try to use my shield on whoever would benefit from it most.
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
Zonel
Profile Joined May 2010
United States100 Posts
October 17 2010 20:28 GMT
#24850
Morg isn't the only champion that has an ult+Zhonya's combo. Kennen does also but his ult not only does damage but it stuns to boot! It can be pretty hard to deal with.
Aukai
Profile Joined April 2003
United States1183 Posts
October 17 2010 20:29 GMT
#24851
Morgs ult does dmg, stuns, and slows....
There was one really amazing gal. She was one of the biggest chick i ever seen.
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
October 17 2010 20:30 GMT
#24852
On October 18 2010 04:52 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 04:31 myopia wrote:
Morg's shield includes mres. If she's got 300+ AP and her target has enough mres, then yes, it's possible for her shield to absorb 2k damage.

Oh geez. Yeah, that gets pretty absurd then. 300 AP and a 200 MRes target would be 1800 effective absorption, discounting MPen.


BS is rarely going to be on a 200 MR tank, and that Kog/MF/Trist it is getting put on isn't going to have 200 MR. I think she is far from as broken as being made out here(still a great ban, not arguing that she isn't very strong).
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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
October 17 2010 20:31 GMT
#24853
Morg's ult slows+stuns too, you know

but yeah apparently they're patching this so it won't be an issue.
it's my first day
Rice
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1332 Posts
October 17 2010 20:35 GMT
#24854
nothing is more fun than lategame singed
Freedom will be defended at the cost of civil liberties.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
October 17 2010 20:36 GMT
#24855
On October 18 2010 05:35 Rice wrote:
nothing is more fun than lategame singed

just played a game and ran around throwing people over my shoulder like a dickhead and running in circles with poison on
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
October 17 2010 20:47 GMT
#24856
Idk about where all the love for HoG jungle nunu comes from, I'm loving dshield opening into catalyst upgrade with flash+smite, he's like a jungle galio with 1/2 heals...

One thing that annoys me on him is that I feel annoyingly slow when I have to start @wraiths and they rush dragon with a jungler who can solo it, anyone got a different path as purple?
Flicky
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2676 Posts
October 17 2010 20:49 GMT
#24857
On October 18 2010 04:43 Kaneh wrote:
remember when morg's shield REMOVED CCs?

yeah. how long did it take for them to fix that?

I blame the lack of good morgs who actually use black shield on people other than themselves. black shield on Yi. black shield on gallio. on kat. on garen. that one is pretty rediculous. it's like turning garen into olaf, only he has execute and aoes too.


Ha, I remember running Kayle/Morgana/Yi + tank + Whatever for the 6 seconds of invulnerability and no-CC aaaages ago. Good times.

Quite liking Pantheon. As soon as you know what to expect from his Ultimate and learn that E is fucking useless he's really quite solid.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 20:57:57
October 17 2010 20:51 GMT
#24858
On October 18 2010 05:47 r33k wrote:
Idk about where all the love for HoG jungle nunu comes from, I'm loving dshield opening into catalyst upgrade with flash+smite, he's like a jungle galio with 1/2 heals...

Probably because opening Cloth lets you start with a ward, and HoG/Randuin is a pretty straightforward item to build the Cloth Armor into afterward.

On October 18 2010 05:47 r33k wrote:
One thing that annoys me on him is that I feel annoyingly slow when I have to start @wraiths and they rush dragon with a jungler who can solo it, anyone got a different path as purple?

There's a reason not to start at blue/wolves (doing the whole eat-big-wolf thing so you hit 2 off blue) with Nunu?
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petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
October 17 2010 20:51 GMT
#24859
On October 18 2010 05:35 Rice wrote:
nothing is more fun than lategame singed

just played a game and ran around throwing people over my shoulder like a dickhead and running in circles with poison on


Is there any other way to play singed?

I can't think of a non-dickish way to chuck people over your shoulder then run in front of them as they die a slow poison death.
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Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
October 17 2010 20:56 GMT
#24860
On October 18 2010 05:47 r33k wrote:
Idk about where all the love for HoG jungle nunu comes from, I'm loving dshield opening into catalyst upgrade with flash+smite, he's like a jungle galio with 1/2 heals...

One thing that annoys me on him is that I feel annoyingly slow when I have to start @wraiths and they rush dragon with a jungler who can solo it, anyone got a different path as purple?


as both sides on nunu you can do

1. Consume big wolf, hit it once.
2. Do golem.
3. finish small wolves.
4. wraiths.
5. lizard.
6. small golems.
7. dragon at lvl 4.

pretty OP with just a D shield and an hp pot. just remember that you are ultimately pretty bad lategame so you have to do your damage early game/mid game. I only play nunu when we have a hard carry like trist or kog that can greatly benefit from blood boil.

on the other hand ive never lost with nunu in ranked, 7-0 and rice is like 17-2 with nunu.
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