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socal50
Profile Joined July 2010
United States93 Posts
October 13 2010 07:59 GMT
#23921
fullstack cho has so much hp. add warmogs and hes an hp beast
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
October 13 2010 08:11 GMT
#23922
and suddenly Southlight and Caller was elevated to: [image loading] ELO
washed
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
October 13 2010 08:19 GMT
#23923
I actually read what happened after I came home from classes, hahah.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-13 08:39:22
October 13 2010 08:38 GMT
#23924
On October 13 2010 16:59 socal50 wrote:
fullstack cho has so much hp. add warmogs and hes an hp beast

"Hi Bloodrazor/mumu/ww/DFG"

Rule of thumb - if your character has high AD you want attack speed, high attack speed - u want AD, high armor/mres - u want hp, high hp - u want armor/mres. Since EHP = HP*(armor or mres), dps = AD*aspd
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
October 13 2010 08:41 GMT
#23925
On October 13 2010 17:19 Southlight wrote:
I actually read what happened after I came home from classes, hahah.


You are still in the the Troll ELO now. Once a troll always a troll!
washed
Liquin
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden168 Posts
October 13 2010 08:52 GMT
#23926
I play on the European Server under nickname "Liquin" (Feel free to look up my stats).
I'm having problems climbing the solo ranked. I'm not the first one who stumbles upon this problem, why does it have to be so hard to climb the solo ranked?

I'm almost always pleased with my own lane, and my own play. But it is when we come to mid/late-game that things start messing up.

Playing as Ashe in mid, I'm first on creep kills and I'm having a good time harassing my opponent, and denying her creep kills (Tristana). I pay a little visit to the bottom lane looking for a gank, and get slaughtered... By that time, I start wondering to myself "How the fuck did I just die?" I press tab and realise that Kassadin and Akali both have 5 kills each.

Why is this? Have I been cursed, or is solo ranked just this bad?
How appropriate. You fight like a cow
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-13 09:02:15
October 13 2010 09:01 GMT
#23927
fuck leavers dude

this stupid TF was shittalking our whole team for being shitty and awful when he was 1/6 lmao

their anivia got away from me with like 5 health and I couldn't cast wither (im nasus) because i was OOM and he starts spamming the chat about how im shit letting her get away

happens a second time and she eggs under her turret and he just leaves

i ended up positive even though it was 4v5, thanks to nasus' awesome ult but naturally we lost. shit talkers really frustrate me, they're almost always the worst player on the team
RIP Aaliyah
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
October 13 2010 09:26 GMT
#23928
On October 13 2010 18:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote:shit talkers really frustrate me, they're almost always the worst player on the team


I had a Kayle shit talking the other day who built Sheen first and had 30 cs in 20 minutes. 30 cs. As Kayle. In 20 minutes. How is that even possible?
Zero fighting.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
October 13 2010 09:33 GMT
#23929
On October 13 2010 17:52 Liquin wrote:
I play on the European Server under nickname "Liquin" (Feel free to look up my stats).
I'm having problems climbing the solo ranked. I'm not the first one who stumbles upon this problem, why does it have to be so hard to climb the solo ranked?

I'm almost always pleased with my own lane, and my own play. But it is when we come to mid/late-game that things start messing up.

Playing as Ashe in mid, I'm first on creep kills and I'm having a good time harassing my opponent, and denying her creep kills (Tristana). I pay a little visit to the bottom lane looking for a gank, and get slaughtered... By that time, I start wondering to myself "How the fuck did I just die?" I press tab and realise that Kassadin and Akali both have 5 kills each.

Why is this? Have I been cursed, or is solo ranked just this bad?

Seems more like a "i dont pay attention and go attack the most fed lane as one of the squishiest heroes in the game" to me.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
October 13 2010 09:50 GMT
#23930
On October 13 2010 15:47 Niton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 15:44 turnip wrote:
new favorite play of all time:

friend pantheon is about to die at the enemy tower to enemy pantheon, gets kayle ulted, uses invuln time to leap onto enemy pantheon for the killing blow

DRAGOON STRIKE

PS RIP phrost


I think I like Pantheon living through a 4v4 with sub-100 health the entire time WHILE BEING ATTACKED

fucking spirit of maknoon coursed through that panth's veins


^^
cool beans
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
October 13 2010 11:17 GMT
#23931
On October 13 2010 18:33 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 17:52 Liquin wrote:
I play on the European Server under nickname "Liquin" (Feel free to look up my stats).
I'm having problems climbing the solo ranked. I'm not the first one who stumbles upon this problem, why does it have to be so hard to climb the solo ranked?

I'm almost always pleased with my own lane, and my own play. But it is when we come to mid/late-game that things start messing up.

Playing as Ashe in mid, I'm first on creep kills and I'm having a good time harassing my opponent, and denying her creep kills (Tristana). I pay a little visit to the bottom lane looking for a gank, and get slaughtered... By that time, I start wondering to myself "How the fuck did I just die?" I press tab and realise that Kassadin and Akali both have 5 kills each.

Why is this? Have I been cursed, or is solo ranked just this bad?

Seems more like a "i dont pay attention and go attack the most fed lane as one of the squishiest heroes in the game" to me.

Doesnt beat an ashe with 19 creep kills 22 minutes in.
On a solo lane
Without going back
Or being ganked.

it does happen :/
In the woods, there lurks..
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
October 13 2010 12:12 GMT
#23932
My two favourite things about jungle nunu are a) never having to go back unless I want to and b) eating wards as soon as they place them. I should probably gets Madreds though because it really takes him a long time to solo dragon.
Retvrn to Forvms
byFd
Profile Joined May 2006
Germany620 Posts
October 13 2010 13:00 GMT
#23933
what setup do u use for jungle nunu? also what route do you take?
i find nunu very fun, but i never tried to jungle with him, goota try it i guess^^
(>°_°)>
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
October 13 2010 13:08 GMT
#23934
just played a game with
Taric(me) WW/Morg/Chogath/Pantheon
vs
Heimer/Mf/Xin/Mundo/Poppy

it was hilarious as every teamfight boiled down to who would fuck up on their team and eat whatever form of stun/snare/knockup and die instantly, causing a 4v5 which would obviously make them lose.

ALSO, thoughts on opening with dorans ring on MF?, my reasoning being this; you want to farm alot taking mid(this is only in question for mid) and once you hit 8? your E will clear entire waves,however you'll only have about a minute before they wont die instantly and you'll have to put yourself in harms way to get the hits in to kill them.

Basically ring will give you mp5/health/10 AP which with its .8:1 ratio you'll be able to farm the entire wave for much longer possibly giving you a better late game

thoughts?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Liquin
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden168 Posts
October 13 2010 13:14 GMT
#23935
On October 13 2010 18:33 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 17:52 Liquin wrote:
I play on the European Server under nickname "Liquin" (Feel free to look up my stats).
I'm having problems climbing the solo ranked. I'm not the first one who stumbles upon this problem, why does it have to be so hard to climb the solo ranked?

I'm almost always pleased with my own lane, and my own play. But it is when we come to mid/late-game that things start messing up.

Playing as Ashe in mid, I'm first on creep kills and I'm having a good time harassing my opponent, and denying her creep kills (Tristana). I pay a little visit to the bottom lane looking for a gank, and get slaughtered... By that time, I start wondering to myself "How the fuck did I just die?" I press tab and realise that Kassadin and Akali both have 5 kills each.

Why is this? Have I been cursed, or is solo ranked just this bad?

Seems more like a "i dont pay attention and go attack the most fed lane as one of the squishiest heroes in the game" to me.

This is me exaggurating just to make a point. Why is solo queue so broken, and how are they planning on fixing it?
How appropriate. You fight like a cow
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
October 13 2010 13:21 GMT
#23936
On October 13 2010 22:08 arb wrote:
just played a game with
Taric(me) WW/Morg/Chogath/Pantheon
vs
Heimer/Mf/Xin/Mundo/Poppy

it was hilarious as every teamfight boiled down to who would fuck up on their team and eat whatever form of stun/snare/knockup and die instantly, causing a 4v5 which would obviously make them lose.

ALSO, thoughts on opening with dorans ring on MF?, my reasoning being this; you want to farm alot taking mid(this is only in question for mid) and once you hit 8? your E will clear entire waves,however you'll only have about a minute before they wont die instantly and you'll have to put yourself in harms way to get the hits in to kill them.

Basically ring will give you mp5/health/10 AP which with its .8:1 ratio you'll be able to farm the entire wave for much longer possibly giving you a better late game

thoughts?

Unless you're laning against one of the rare specimens that counter MF in lane (Panth, who else? I could imagine Kat, but don't know), you should dominate the lane so much (assuming you have a DBlade or DShield) that you don't need anything but your autoattack for lasthitting. Stop being lazy.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
October 13 2010 13:59 GMT
#23937
On October 13 2010 22:21 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 22:08 arb wrote:
just played a game with
Taric(me) WW/Morg/Chogath/Pantheon
vs
Heimer/Mf/Xin/Mundo/Poppy

it was hilarious as every teamfight boiled down to who would fuck up on their team and eat whatever form of stun/snare/knockup and die instantly, causing a 4v5 which would obviously make them lose.

ALSO, thoughts on opening with dorans ring on MF?, my reasoning being this; you want to farm alot taking mid(this is only in question for mid) and once you hit 8? your E will clear entire waves,however you'll only have about a minute before they wont die instantly and you'll have to put yourself in harms way to get the hits in to kill them.

Basically ring will give you mp5/health/10 AP which with its .8:1 ratio you'll be able to farm the entire wave for much longer possibly giving you a better late game

thoughts?

Unless you're laning against one of the rare specimens that counter MF in lane (Panth, who else? I could imagine Kat, but don't know), you should dominate the lane so much (assuming you have a DBlade or DShield) that you don't need anything but your autoattack for lasthitting. Stop being lazy.

My cleaverly disguised post was discovered quickly as ..yes im a lazy bastard ._.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
October 13 2010 14:00 GMT
#23938
On October 13 2010 22:14 Liquin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 18:33 arb wrote:
On October 13 2010 17:52 Liquin wrote:
I play on the European Server under nickname "Liquin" (Feel free to look up my stats).
I'm having problems climbing the solo ranked. I'm not the first one who stumbles upon this problem, why does it have to be so hard to climb the solo ranked?

I'm almost always pleased with my own lane, and my own play. But it is when we come to mid/late-game that things start messing up.

Playing as Ashe in mid, I'm first on creep kills and I'm having a good time harassing my opponent, and denying her creep kills (Tristana). I pay a little visit to the bottom lane looking for a gank, and get slaughtered... By that time, I start wondering to myself "How the fuck did I just die?" I press tab and realise that Kassadin and Akali both have 5 kills each.

Why is this? Have I been cursed, or is solo ranked just this bad?

Seems more like a "i dont pay attention and go attack the most fed lane as one of the squishiest heroes in the game" to me.

This is me exaggurating just to make a point. Why is solo queue so broken, and how are they planning on fixing it?


i mean akali and kass both shit on ashe/most squishys especially if you arent with your team/cc.
TacToSs
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia330 Posts
October 13 2010 14:06 GMT
#23939
What's a good item/skill build for MF? I've only played her a few times and usually maxed Q over E early game.The only guide listed is the stack 3 tiamats then get bloodthirsters guide. And just curious as to why stack tiamats? Is it just for fun or does it actually have a purpose. I actually did stack tiamats in one game and Q was pretty badass with it.
Jaedong <3
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
October 13 2010 14:12 GMT
#23940
On October 13 2010 22:21 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 22:08 arb wrote:
just played a game with
Taric(me) WW/Morg/Chogath/Pantheon
vs
Heimer/Mf/Xin/Mundo/Poppy

it was hilarious as every teamfight boiled down to who would fuck up on their team and eat whatever form of stun/snare/knockup and die instantly, causing a 4v5 which would obviously make them lose.

ALSO, thoughts on opening with dorans ring on MF?, my reasoning being this; you want to farm alot taking mid(this is only in question for mid) and once you hit 8? your E will clear entire waves,however you'll only have about a minute before they wont die instantly and you'll have to put yourself in harms way to get the hits in to kill them.

Basically ring will give you mp5/health/10 AP which with its .8:1 ratio you'll be able to farm the entire wave for much longer possibly giving you a better late game

thoughts?

Unless you're laning against one of the rare specimens that counter MF in lane (Panth, who else? I could imagine Kat, but don't know), you should dominate the lane so much (assuming you have a DBlade or DShield) that you don't need anything but your autoattack for lasthitting. Stop being lazy.


it's not a question of laziness, it's a question of efficiency and safety per gold earned

sure it's easy to SAY "just last hit" with galio, and i usually try to do that, but if i'm in a 1v2 lane against a couple ranged champs, "just last hitting" is going to lose me 200 HP every time i go for a creep. so instead, i play passively until level 5, and then use my double nuke to insta-gib all the ranged creeps and try to nab the melee creeps with last hits. i will always get every ranged creep in this fashion, and can usually get 2 or all 3 of the melee once i'm level 5. then i just back off and either harass or let the lane push back peacefully and repeat ad nauseum. 20 minutes in i've already got double the next highest creep score and a huge item advantage

in the same way, MF CAN last hit exclusively, but she also has like 150 HP and one mistake trying to go for a ranged creep can cost you mightily against tristana, annie, any champ with a decent harass skill and even moreso against a champ that does WELL against mf innately. so just like galio, if mf can come up with a way to clear a creep wave 100% of the time with a skill, there's no reason she shouldn't do that


^^now i'm not advocating d-ring on MF, i don't play MF and have no advice for her, but i'm just pointing out that using skills to farm creeps (especially ranged skills) is much much safer and more effective than exclusively last-hitting. yes you'll push the lane, but in mid i don't see a problem with that, as you only push like 4 inches before you're at their tower and they push back. just hang back after you've pushed if they have a jungler and wait for the creep equilibrium to swing your way

\o/ just my thoughts
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
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