EPTarmor penetration, or + damage?
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Deleted User 3420
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armor penetration, or + damage? | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Also to above, +damage is the very worst rune in the entire game, +apen is the best. | ||
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
On June 26 2010 03:30 Shikyo wrote: New veigar is awesome, also AP shaco relies on your opponents being bad. Also to above, +damage is the very worst rune in the entire game, +apen is the best. my opponents are bad guys  so basically he just called everyone on tl except yiruru and spudboy bad. you guys gonna take that?? | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On June 26 2010 03:30 Shikyo wrote: New veigar is awesome, also AP shaco relies on your opponents being bad. Also to above, +damage is the very worst rune in the entire game, +apen is the best. + damage flat quints have niche uses, namely to open with both parts of akali's passive and on characters who scale certain abilities off of AD to do Magic damage (like Kat's bouncing blades). they're still probably never optimal, but it's not like it's 100% armor pen quints > flat damage quints, more like 99%. on marks though, the damage ones are soooo negligible, you're always better with penetration. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20255 Posts
On June 26 2010 02:13 Haemonculus wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp132/Gallowmere08/Kekekekekekekke.jpg) AMAZING game omfg. So we start out and my team is feeding up a storm. I'm playing Morde all by myself bottom lane. My team blows massive chunks and keeps dying everywhere, and within 10 minutes we're down 3 towers and the score is like 12-1. And then Mordy strolls in, pulls off a f***ing quadrokill in a big teamfight, and then just goes around LOLing up a storm. Easily the best I've ever done as morde lol. How do you like Morde? | ||
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
The changes to his ult make it slightly more reliable - maybe? I can't really tell, it's still quite random. I think it hits more now, but I'm not sure. Overall yeeeess good job Riot! The past 4 games I've played with him I felt a lot more in control with him. | ||
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shawster
Canada2485 Posts
just played a game, we won in 20 minutes their mid kogmaw was 0-6 at the end of the game. their mid kogmaw was also dan dinh haha. i think kogmaw eventually will become a decent mid-low tier champ once people begin to figure him out. he seems pretty powerful, just people are new to him. | ||
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
On June 26 2010 04:58 shawster wrote: man i haven't seen like 1 kogmaw really do anything so far just played a game, we won in 20 minutes their mid kogmaw was 0-6 at the end of the game. their mid kogmaw was also dan dinh haha. i think kogmaw eventually will become a decent mid-low tier champ once people begin to figure him out. he seems pretty powerful, just people are new to him. that could just be people being lazy and not practicing with the champ before que-ing up. | ||
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shawster
Canada2485 Posts
On June 26 2010 05:00 Orpheos wrote: i always wondered about crits in this game. it seems like every other game ive played, crits never miss and pierce armor. i realize that wouldnt really work in this game because its abit too easy to get crit chance. but i think that would make it more dynamic than the plain double dmg crit. i wouldn't change crit. if you change it it could be more frustrating then it already is. lololol lvl 1 mundo crits you on tt with masochism for 9001. this game is rng enough already, i don't want to make crit more dynamic lol. | ||
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qwsss
Canada36 Posts
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On June 26 2010 05:10 qwsss wrote: where can I find patch notes for Lol ? I link the most recent patches notes at the top of the first post. | ||
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Trok67
France384 Posts
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Haemonculus
United States6980 Posts
On June 26 2010 05:23 Trok67 wrote: what do you think about veigar changes ? I was pretty excited at first but it seems that he is even worse than before. The ult which was one of his few god stuff is much less deadly. Yeah but with a lot of the newer heroes not having any mana, they needed to do *something* to change how his ult worked. His ult can still hit you for ridiculous damage o.o; | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
new veigar is even worse. he went from an OK niche character who was completely useless the rest of the time to a universally underwhelming character. as one who at least could be a huge pain in the ass sometimes, I think being generally UP is a step backwards from conditionally acceptable. | ||
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Trok67
France384 Posts
before : 1.2 AP ratio + 25% mana of the oppenent or flat damage (200+) if no mana now : .8 AP ratio + .8 AP ratio of your oppenent since it's very likely that Veiger will have much more AP than his oppenent, in every case it does much less damage ... | ||
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On June 26 2010 05:45 Orpheos wrote: someone somewhere did some number crunching that showed even if the champ didnt have any mana or used energy, veigers ult still used to do as much or more dmg. Especially with the no-mana damage bonus (~300) that they implemented in the previous patch. | ||
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sleeepy
Canada777 Posts
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