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Southlight
United States11763 Posts
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ProV1
United States980 Posts
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On October 01 2010 05:08 Shikyo wrote: Has anyone tried a Sivir - Starks - Kogmaw - mass broodrazor team vs tanks? =) No, Kogmaw is always banned | ||
Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
cough amumu cough top 3 to get aegis on imo... Taric Shen(teleport + aegis is win) Gragas | ||
Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
On October 01 2010 05:06 STS17 wrote: What with all the Aegis hate? giving 15 MR to someone who has bought none of their own is huge. 30 MR = 23% reduction 45 MR = 31% reduction That's a lot of extra mitigation for your team, armor is harder to value because it depends on level as armor actually scales but for those who buy no defensive items they gain a lot of benefit from standing near you and your job as the tank is to keep them alive. that being said 270 HP 30 Armor 39 MR and 8 Damage for appx 2k gold isn't exactly horrible even if its just for yourself. Edit: all of this is talking in the early and mid game, once your team begins getting their situational items this beings to pale. Well problem with aegis is that you need to be near allies to give effects so it's IMO counter intuitive to some tanks (like malph) that want to be near enemy carry. On October 01 2010 05:15 Crucifix wrote: I rush Aegis on my jungle amu if I don't need dodge boots ! Ugh wtf with this tabi amumus, i just can't seem to understand why do they do this - mumu has 0 "base dodge". Tabi is bad item unless you have some cool built-in dodge on the champ AND enemies are heavily AD composed (actually if there is 1 nuker with 1 stun and 2-3 slowers i WILL go mercuries) | ||
spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
Just one example: Your carry with 100 armor gets 12 more armor, he takes 5.7% less damage. The values are even better for magic damage. That might be enough to let him survive 1 more attack, which gives the rest of the team that split second they need to stop/kill the chasers. And the carry doesn't have to delay his offensive items for that, which is a big plus as well (for a team that supports their carries instead of a team of 5 solo players). Meanwhile, your whole team takes Sona's Aura nullifies your Sorcs. Whoopdedoo, I turned it around! And it helps the whole team instead of boosting the damage output of a single champ. Not saying her aura is great (not saying it's bad either), but honestly, you seem to look at everything from a solo player perspective. | ||
ghen
United States1356 Posts
I also get aegis on other tanky characters if I don't know what to buy yet, but I guess I should buy a chain armor and negatrons instead ![]() | ||
Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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STS17
United States1817 Posts
On October 01 2010 05:08 Southlight wrote: STS: That's why we've been constantly mentioning that it's an item that blows late-game and as such is generally not worth investing in because it's a dead item late-game........................ and by relation Sona's innate auras are relatively worthless as the game goes on. I'm aware of that. But Doran's blow late game and you don't see people not getting those, the point isn't to stock up on items and then push out once the game hits the 60 minute mark the point is to do something now which may prevent it from getting there. By the time you have the gold to get an item such as Aegis (assuming you didn't rush it) you should have a pretty good indication of if the game will become a long one or if "winning a teamfight now" will let you gain such a lead (like pushing down an inhib really early) that the game won't go on that long and if it does you have a large advantage. Aegis makes your whole team tougher and if you see an opportunity where making everyone that much tougher will let you gain a great advantage, then buying an Aegis at that moment is the best idea you could have with that 2k gold. If you only went by play which was useful in the late game most of the items and champions would never be bought or played. | ||
myopia
United States2928 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
edit: played a game about a week ago where honver picked kassadin and proceeded to build manamune, innervating locket, and soul shroud. I couldnt stop laughing | ||
Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
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Kexx
Germany240 Posts
except rushing banshees into GA/Omen, into more tank items. | ||
Shiladie
Canada1631 Posts
On October 01 2010 05:29 ghen wrote: I love love aegis on Nasus. I also get aegis on other tanky characters if I don't know what to buy yet, but I guess I should buy a chain armor and negatrons instead ![]() aegis is always part of my nasus build as well, good all-round imo... | ||
arb
Noobville17920 Posts
On October 01 2010 05:53 Kexx wrote: so what's a good item build on Ezrael? except rushing banshees into GA/Omen, into more tank items. rush a sunfire into more tank items | ||
Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On October 01 2010 05:53 Kexx wrote: so what's a good item build on Ezrael? except rushing banshees into GA/Omen, into more tank items. open HoG, grab a catalyst, then go GA into Omen/Banshee's | ||
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