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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
September 30 2010 20:08 GMT
#21261
STS: That's why we've been constantly mentioning that it's an item that blows late-game and as such is generally not worth investing in because it's a dead item late-game........................ and by relation Sona's innate auras are relatively worthless as the game goes on.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
ProV1
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States980 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-30 20:15:20
September 30 2010 20:14 GMT
#21262
The armour bonus on aegis stacks with Taric's armour bonus. I haven't been missing out on too much getting that item with taric.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
September 30 2010 20:15 GMT
#21263
I rush Aegis on my jungle amu if I don't need dodge boots !
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 30 2010 20:16 GMT
#21264
rush HoG instead, it's definitely better on amumu.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
September 30 2010 20:18 GMT
#21265
On October 01 2010 05:08 Shikyo wrote:
Has anyone tried a Sivir - Starks - Kogmaw - mass broodrazor team vs tanks? =)


No, Kogmaw is always banned
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
September 30 2010 20:21 GMT
#21266
yea aegis is horrible on any character that wont be autoattacking


cough amumu cough


top 3 to get aegis on imo...

Taric
Shen(teleport + aegis is win)
Gragas
Brees on in
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
September 30 2010 20:23 GMT
#21267
On October 01 2010 05:06 STS17 wrote:
What with all the Aegis hate? giving 15 MR to someone who has bought none of their own is huge.

30 MR = 23% reduction
45 MR = 31% reduction

That's a lot of extra mitigation for your team, armor is harder to value because it depends on level as armor actually scales but for those who buy no defensive items they gain a lot of benefit from standing near you and your job as the tank is to keep them alive.

that being said 270 HP 30 Armor 39 MR and 8 Damage for appx 2k gold isn't exactly horrible even if its just for yourself.

Edit: all of this is talking in the early and mid game, once your team begins getting their situational items this beings to pale.

Well problem with aegis is that you need to be near allies to give effects so it's IMO counter intuitive to some tanks (like malph) that want to be near enemy carry.

On October 01 2010 05:15 Crucifix wrote:
I rush Aegis on my jungle amu if I don't need dodge boots !

Ugh wtf with this tabi amumus, i just can't seem to understand why do they do this - mumu has 0 "base dodge". Tabi is bad item unless you have some cool built-in dodge on the champ AND enemies are heavily AD composed (actually if there is 1 nuker with 1 stun and 2-3 slowers i WILL go mercuries)
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
September 30 2010 20:24 GMT
#21268
Small numbers do matter. I don't really know how to convince you of that aside from coming up with 100 pages of mathcrafting, so I won't bother.

Just one example: Your carry with 100 armor gets 12 more armor, he takes 5.7% less damage. The values are even better for magic damage. That might be enough to let him survive 1 more attack, which gives the rest of the team that split second they need to stop/kill the chasers.
And the carry doesn't have to delay his offensive items for that, which is a big plus as well (for a team that supports their carries instead of a team of 5 solo players).
Meanwhile, your whole team takes

Sona's Aura nullifies your Sorcs. Whoopdedoo, I turned it around! And it helps the whole team instead of boosting the damage output of a single champ. Not saying her aura is great (not saying it's bad either), but honestly, you seem to look at everything from a solo player perspective.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-30 20:31:42
September 30 2010 20:29 GMT
#21269
I love love aegis on Nasus.

I also get aegis on other tanky characters if I don't know what to buy yet, but I guess I should buy a chain armor and negatrons instead
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
September 30 2010 20:30 GMT
#21270
Anyone know if phreak is commentating the matches tomorrow?
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 30 2010 20:30 GMT
#21271
I like Banshee's Veil, Force of Nature, Guardian Angel, Randuin's Omen, and Funfire Capes on Nasus considerably more than I like Aegis.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
September 30 2010 20:32 GMT
#21272
On October 01 2010 05:08 Southlight wrote:
STS: That's why we've been constantly mentioning that it's an item that blows late-game and as such is generally not worth investing in because it's a dead item late-game........................ and by relation Sona's innate auras are relatively worthless as the game goes on.


I'm aware of that. But Doran's blow late game and you don't see people not getting those, the point isn't to stock up on items and then push out once the game hits the 60 minute mark the point is to do something now which may prevent it from getting there.

By the time you have the gold to get an item such as Aegis (assuming you didn't rush it) you should have a pretty good indication of if the game will become a long one or if "winning a teamfight now" will let you gain such a lead (like pushing down an inhib really early) that the game won't go on that long and if it does you have a large advantage.

Aegis makes your whole team tougher and if you see an opportunity where making everyone that much tougher will let you gain a great advantage, then buying an Aegis at that moment is the best idea you could have with that 2k gold.

If you only went by play which was useful in the late game most of the items and champions would never be bought or played.
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
September 30 2010 20:40 GMT
#21273
Aegis on Vlad maybe?
it's my first day
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 30 2010 20:50 GMT
#21274
good lord no.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-30 20:52:29
September 30 2010 20:51 GMT
#21275
that's like getting manamune on vlad

edit: played a game about a week ago where honver picked kassadin and proceeded to build manamune, innervating locket, and soul shroud. I couldnt stop laughing
Brees on in
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
September 30 2010 20:52 GMT
#21276
Lantern nida, now you can see when they want to gank you !1111!@
Kexx
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany240 Posts
September 30 2010 20:53 GMT
#21277
so what's a good item build on Ezrael?

except rushing banshees into GA/Omen, into more tank items.
chooooch
Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
September 30 2010 20:53 GMT
#21278
On October 01 2010 05:29 ghen wrote:
I love love aegis on Nasus.

I also get aegis on other tanky characters if I don't know what to buy yet, but I guess I should buy a chain armor and negatrons instead


aegis is always part of my nasus build as well, good all-round imo...
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
September 30 2010 20:58 GMT
#21279
On October 01 2010 05:53 Kexx wrote:
so what's a good item build on Ezrael?

except rushing banshees into GA/Omen, into more tank items.

rush a sunfire into more tank items
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 30 2010 20:58 GMT
#21280
On October 01 2010 05:53 Kexx wrote:
so what's a good item build on Ezrael?

except rushing banshees into GA/Omen, into more tank items.

open HoG, grab a catalyst, then go GA into Omen/Banshee's
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
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