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Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
September 30 2010 20:59 GMT
#21281
On October 01 2010 05:58 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2010 05:53 Kexx wrote:
so what's a good item build on Ezrael?

except rushing banshees into GA/Omen, into more tank items.

open HoG, grab a catalyst, then go GA into Omen/Banshee's


After that, you may build your Bloodrazor.
Brees on in
Kexx
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany240 Posts
September 30 2010 21:03 GMT
#21282
On October 01 2010 05:59 Brees wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2010 05:58 Mogwai wrote:
On October 01 2010 05:53 Kexx wrote:
so what's a good item build on Ezrael?

except rushing banshees into GA/Omen, into more tank items.

open HoG, grab a catalyst, then go GA into Omen/Banshee's


After that, you may build your Bloodrazor.

by this point you just might as well go atmas.
chooooch
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 30 2010 21:03 GMT
#21283
I'd say just copy the Yiruru carry build:
boots
BF Sword
BF Sword
BF Sword
BF Sword
Last Whisper
upgrade to 4 x Bloodthirsters
pump elixirs, including oracles
boots 2 when you have spare money

this build requires about 50 CS/minute, but if you're as pro as Yiruru, that should come pretty fuckin' easy, so just man up and get on his level.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Darkchylde
Profile Joined January 2010
United States473 Posts
September 30 2010 21:14 GMT
#21284
On October 01 2010 05:52 Kaniol wrote:
Lantern nida, now you can see when they want to gank you !1111!@


There was a short period of time when Hotshot used lantern on his Nid when the item first came out.
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
September 30 2010 21:18 GMT
#21285
On October 01 2010 06:03 Mogwai wrote:
I'd say just copy the Yiruru carry build:
boots
BF Sword
BF Sword
BF Sword
BF Sword
Last Whisper
upgrade to 4 x Bloodthirsters
pump elixirs, including oracles
boots 2 when you have spare money

this build requires about 50 CS/minute, but if you're as pro as Yiruru, that should come pretty fuckin' easy, so just man up and get on his level.



Thats my build too.

But i get a brutalizer earlier for super armor pen (with the 35 you get from runes/masteries its pretty sickening, you ignore all armor until like lvl 12)
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
September 30 2010 21:20 GMT
#21286
On October 01 2010 04:46 STS17 wrote:
Why do I see so many AD Poppys? Is it really better then AP?

Tri Force adds 175.575 damage to your Q when at level 18 while a lich bane can easily add so much more (even ignoring the .6 AP ratio the spell has) because it is so easy to get roughly 180 AP. Not to mention the AP ratio on E

I've hit squishies for roughly 1k sometimes even more with the attack and never seen an AD Poppy come close. Am I missing something or are the Poppys I'm seeing just bad?


Just going to repost this because it got completely overshadowed by Aegis debate
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
September 30 2010 21:21 GMT
#21287
On October 01 2010 06:20 STS17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2010 04:46 STS17 wrote:
Why do I see so many AD Poppys? Is it really better then AP?

Tri Force adds 175.575 damage to your Q when at level 18 while a lich bane can easily add so much more (even ignoring the .6 AP ratio the spell has) because it is so easy to get roughly 180 AP. Not to mention the AP ratio on E

I've hit squishies for roughly 1k sometimes even more with the attack and never seen an AD Poppy come close. Am I missing something or are the Poppys I'm seeing just bad?


Just going to repost this because it got completely overshadowed by Aegis debate



Aegis is a really cool item and ti doesnt afraid of anything
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Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-30 21:23:58
September 30 2010 21:23 GMT
#21288
On October 01 2010 06:20 STS17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2010 04:46 STS17 wrote:
Why do I see so many AD Poppys? Is it really better then AP?

Tri Force adds 175.575 damage to your Q when at level 18 while a lich bane can easily add so much more (even ignoring the .6 AP ratio the spell has) because it is so easy to get roughly 180 AP. Not to mention the AP ratio on E

I've hit squishies for roughly 1k sometimes even more with the attack and never seen an AD Poppy come close. Am I missing something or are the Poppys I'm seeing just bad?


Just going to repost this because it got completely overshadowed by Aegis debate



a couple reasons

1. Poppy's farming is trash (magic pen + triforce is quite good and you will be relevant all game instead of 30+ mins

2. movespeed on triforce

3. phage procs(later becomes guaranteed slow which is vital)
Brees on in
Fishcakes
Profile Joined May 2010
United States149 Posts
September 30 2010 21:33 GMT
#21289
AP poppy relies on your team being able to win a 4v4.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-30 21:39:38
September 30 2010 21:33 GMT
#21290
On October 01 2010 06:20 STS17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2010 04:46 STS17 wrote:
Why do I see so many AD Poppys? Is it really better then AP?

Tri Force adds 175.575 damage to your Q when at level 18 while a lich bane can easily add so much more (even ignoring the .6 AP ratio the spell has) because it is so easy to get roughly 180 AP. Not to mention the AP ratio on E

I've hit squishies for roughly 1k sometimes even more with the attack and never seen an AD Poppy come close. Am I missing something or are the Poppys I'm seeing just bad?
Just going to repost this because it got completely overshadowed by Aegis debate
AD poppy is retarded.


edit:
On October 01 2010 06:33 Fishcakes wrote:
AP poppy relies on your team being able to win a 4v4.
uhhh... yeah? insta-gib their carry or tank, do a bit more damage and rely on your team to win the rest of the fight? if you want a DPS character, you're definitely looking in the wrong place. anti-carries have a single role: neutralize 1 character and let the rest of your team fight it out.
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Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
September 30 2010 21:34 GMT
#21291
On October 01 2010 02:21 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2010 02:17 Navi wrote:
hey guys, I have a couple of quick questions.
Do Apen runes work with Garen's judgement considering that it's physical damage?
his judgement doesn't apply on-hit affects like cleaver, right?
so its probably not worth buying any apen items over your tank items on him...

also, I'm interested in buying another 3150 or two 1350 and a 450 champ or something like that.
I was hoping that they would synergize with some of the runes I have though.
I have apen marks and quints, and full mres/lvl and mp5/lvl seals and glyphs.
anybody have any suggestions for interesting / strong and viable / fun characters that i could buy that fall into this price range?
I was looking at udyr and pantheon, but am not sure if those runes are ideal. I don't mind not trying them out beforehand because I am interested in grabbing quite a few heroes to play so that when i start ranked again i won't ever be banned/have my only main hero taken ^_^

pantheon works well with arpen marks and quints and mp5/lvl seals and glyphs, so you're all set on runes for him.

Arpen applies to judgement, making marks and possibly quints a good idea on Garen (i prefer MS quints, but w/e really). I see some brutalizer on Garen, but I think you're better off just going 100% tank right from the get go, though I will admit that ghostblade is a slick way to add some oomph later by giving you an extra ghost for latching onto their carry.


alright thank you
what runes do you guys run on Udyr though? I'm also kind of interested in him...
and does arpen/mp5/lvl work on jungle panth as well?
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FlameSworD
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States414 Posts
September 30 2010 21:37 GMT
#21292
armor pen armor magic resist move speed imo
skyhighftw on iccup
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 30 2010 21:46 GMT
#21293
First solo q in a while, I get morecowbell on my team. GG
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
September 30 2010 21:51 GMT
#21294
2 solo queues today. My retarded teammates made me 8/10 and 2/10 pantheon. Fucking idiots, can't stand it. I guess I'm too nervous for this game, won't solo Q ever again.
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Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
September 30 2010 21:52 GMT
#21295
first solo q today, my e-peen smashes all 5 opposing members into oblivion with its girth, they surrender at 18 minutes.


GG
Brees on in
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
September 30 2010 21:55 GMT
#21296
My massive arm strength was able to switch the internal clocks of summoner's rift and twisted tree line.
Brees on in
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
September 30 2010 22:04 GMT
#21297
Was bored, played a practice game.

Rammus with Revive Ghose MS quints and masteries + mobility boots and 5 phantom dancers can hit over 2500 movespeed during powerball
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
September 30 2010 22:07 GMT
#21298
On October 01 2010 07:04 STS17 wrote:
Was bored, played a practice game.

Rammus with Revive Ghose MS quints and masteries + mobility boots and 5 phantom dancers can hit over 2500 movespeed during powerball

Sounds like the new mainstream Rammus build. So pro.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Yiruru
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada690 Posts
September 30 2010 22:08 GMT
#21299
I never get LW on Ez =(
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
September 30 2010 22:11 GMT
#21300
On October 01 2010 06:23 Brees wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2010 06:20 STS17 wrote:
On October 01 2010 04:46 STS17 wrote:
Why do I see so many AD Poppys? Is it really better then AP?

Tri Force adds 175.575 damage to your Q when at level 18 while a lich bane can easily add so much more (even ignoring the .6 AP ratio the spell has) because it is so easy to get roughly 180 AP. Not to mention the AP ratio on E

I've hit squishies for roughly 1k sometimes even more with the attack and never seen an AD Poppy come close. Am I missing something or are the Poppys I'm seeing just bad?


Just going to repost this because it got completely overshadowed by Aegis debate



a couple reasons

1. Poppy's farming is trash (magic pen + triforce is quite good and you will be relevant all game instead of 30+ mins

2. movespeed on triforce

3. phage procs(later becomes guaranteed slow which is vital)


1. Agreed, though MPen + Lich Bane would do the same thing would it not?

2. Lich Bane has Movespeed as well so I'm failing to see the point here

3. Get red buff? You can't make the phage which turns into Tri Force into a Frozen Mallet so how would it be guaranteed?

As far as "1 for 1s" go Ult target B instagib target A then move on to target B works quite well if they don't have reliable CC / its been used already.
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