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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
Individuals in a team-game psychology, IMO Uta that was very well-put. My personal fave is people complaining of 'team-fagging,' as it were, which I can only assume is the term for an idiot out of position being ambushed and team-ganked. Apparently that's not how you're supposed to play. Other gems include how the loss is everyone's fault but your own, and lag. | ||
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StuffedTurkey
United States859 Posts
On September 27 2010 23:50 Mogwai wrote: We were nowhere near almost winning that game LOL. Dan Dihn was having connection problems for like, 5 out of the first 10 minutes and they still romped us in every teamfight except for the one where we got romped and then I quad killed them *flexes*. But seriously, it just points out that we're good laners and good individual players, but when it comes to teamwork, especially in terms of establishing map presence and positioning for teamfights, we have a long way to go. I think I remember running into your team pre-season 1 and wanting to quit Pantheon afterwards because of how helpless I felt, LOL. Still might be fun to get our asses kicked for a night :p. true we were a long way from winning, though we were a ways away from losing as well..at least until that mistake lol i completely agree though, we need to work on teamwork more, and also work on our strategies..EVERY game it seems like we go in and its entirely reacting to what they do, instead of thinking of some things to force them to react to us (though obviously we cant ignore what theyre doing) | ||
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Soloside
United States1238 Posts
On September 28 2010 00:22 cascades wrote: How to tell if some TLer is worth listening to at LoL: S-class: Southlight Soner Smashgizmo Shakedrizzle StuffedTurkey Shawz (buttering him up because I fed earlier) Wanna-be S-class: 5hitcombo (So close to S, yet so far) why isn't soloside on there  If people are actually serious about learning twisted fate or jungle yi, I'd glady give good fucking adivce. Other than that, I guess it's my fault that I fail at posting worthy topic discussions. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On September 28 2010 00:28 StuffedTurkey wrote: true we were a long way from winning, though we were a ways away from losing as well..at least until that mistake lol i completely agree though, we need to work on teamwork more, and also work on our strategies..EVERY game it seems like we go in and its entirely reacting to what they do, instead of thinking of some things to force them to react to us (though obviously we cant ignore what theyre doing) I'm a bit guilty of having two very simplistic and straight-forward strategies... which is why I was getting really flustered after the losing streak: 1) Farm 2) Win teamfights So then when we couldn't win teamfights I was like ??? because I rarely, rarely have that issue with team comps, and when you think about it that's basically all I tend to do, abuse stun-heavy team comps and win... but then we were running two solo laners with no disables and it was totally throwing me out of whack, hahah. Edit: It's kinda why EzPz was raging about "running around like headless chickens" and I was just minding my own business farming creep >_> | ||
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Rice
United States1332 Posts
On September 27 2010 23:56 Soloside wrote: Nobody here has a problem playing with me. Especially when a good majority of the time I carry. Ask 5hit/south/heav about the recent games they've played with me. Don't need some random trash talking because of the little drama me and 5hit caused earlier. ps. what's wrong with being good while having some fun? just because no one speaks up about it, i'd rather lose a game then win a game getting carried by a guy telling me how bad I am the whole game, what problems does that solve? carrying a game doesn't give you an excuse to be a complete asshole to everyone. | ||
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azndsh
United States4447 Posts
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Soloside
United States1238 Posts
On September 28 2010 00:34 Rice wrote: just because no one speaks up about it, i'd rather lose a game then win a game getting carried by a guy telling me how bad I am the whole game, what problems does that solve? carrying a game doesn't give you an excuse to be a complete asshole to everyone. Who says that I'm a complete asshole to everyone? Are you everyone? I've been open to teaching noobies about mapawareness and such. You were probably yelled at by me for making the same mistake over and over again without doing anything to remedy it. | ||
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Rice
United States1332 Posts
On September 28 2010 00:37 Soloside wrote: Who says that I'm a complete asshole to everyone? Are you everyone? I've been open to teaching noobies about mapawareness and such. You were probably yelled at by me for making the same mistake over and over again without doing anything to remedy it. actually all you did was call me bad incessantly while our team was complete owning a game. also I find it absolutely hilarious your use of the term "random" as if winning normal games with jungle yi makes you superior to everyone. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On September 28 2010 00:34 Southlight wrote: I'm a bit guilty of having two very simplistic and straight-forward strategies... which is why I was getting really flustered after the losing streak: 1) Farm 2) Win teamfights So then when we couldn't win teamfights I was like ??? because I rarely, rarely have that issue with team comps, and when you think about it that's basically all I tend to do, abuse stun-heavy team comps and win... but then we were running two solo laners with no disables and it was totally throwing me out of whack, hahah. I think we need to sit down and talk strategy, especially with regards to warding and how to leverage the map control it affords us. We play really mobile champions, yet we never seem to leverage it aside from elementary, solo-queue-level Nid/Panth/Shen solo pushing :p. On September 28 2010 00:34 azndsh wrote: Spudboy is pro imo No doubt. | ||
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cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
On September 28 2010 00:28 Soloside wrote: why isn't soloside on there If people are actually serious about learning twisted fate or jungle yi, I'd glady give good fucking adivce. Other than that, I guess it's my fault that I fail at posting worthy topic discussions. Edited and fixed now. It just slipped my mind. Or maybe it is a grudging resentment from you never carrying me before in an LoL game? The world may never know. On a moere serious note, how about the finer details of using TF ulti? Some people manage to use it to catch people who are low in jungle. I never felt confident enough burning ulti to check for this. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On September 28 2010 00:40 Mogwai wrote: I think we need to sit down and talk strategy, especially with regards to warding and how to leverage the map control it affords us. We play really mobile champions, yet we never seem to leverage it aside from elementary, solo-queue-level Nid/Panth/Shen solo pushing :p. We also need to think about team comps a bit better (and by relation the strats we'll use) instead of this "SHAKE GO NID" and then "WAIT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH DISABLES FUUU" business. Also the "oh shit they banned MF and took Panth and WW" was kinda messy >_> Edit: Also: "omg we have no ranged DPS" | ||
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Soloside
United States1238 Posts
On September 28 2010 00:40 cascades wrote: Edited and fixed now. It just slipped my mind. Or maybe it is a grudging resentment from you never carrying me before in an LoL game? The world may never know. On a moere serious note, how about the finer details of using TF ulti? Some people manage to use it to catch people who are low in jungle. I never felt confident enough burning ulti to check for this. I'm going to completely ignore rice to avoid getting banned by GTR again. Anyhow, I've always been a fan of using my ulti regardless if I'm looking to pick someone off or not just because it can also save you or your teammates from a massive 3-4 man gank during midgame. Not to mention that you can save yourself from instagibbness from a gank after you cleanse the cc's. TL:DR Version - I use my ulti whenever I can. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On September 28 2010 00:40 cascades wrote: On a moere serious note, how about the finer details of using TF ulti? Some people manage to use it to catch people who are low in jungle. I never felt confident enough burning ulti to check for this. It comes down to knowing junglers and when they're weak at certain timings. It's like using Scan in SCBW to look for muta spawn time et cetera. | ||
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ghen
United States1356 Posts
Early TF? hit it when your duo lane has been level 4 for a few seconds. level 6 for a few seconds.. etc. Just knowing when other junglers are low health or ready to gank is a big plus. Maybe I could make a spreadsheet on that. edit: oh yeah, knowing creep kills on the jungler and where that means they are on the map is huge too.. really only can tell this for your first ult though. | ||
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Soloside
United States1238 Posts
On September 28 2010 00:46 ghen wrote: Late game TF? Hit that button every single time it's up and you see less than 4 of the other team on the mini map. Imo, late game tf can pick off most roaming tanks + pushers with teleports. For example, I LOVE picking off pantheons especially whenever they leave their team's side to clean up another lane thinking that they can just ulti during a teammate. I have my doubts against shens unless I have red buff because shens have stupid damage output due to ki strike. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On September 28 2010 00:48 Soloside wrote: Imo, late game tf can pick off most roaming tanks + pushers with teleports. For example, I LOVE picking off pantheons especially whenever they leave their team's side to clean up another lane thinking that they can just ulti during a teammate. I have my doubts against shens unless I have red buff because shens have stupid damage output due to ki strike. I feel like Pantheons also love picking off TFs that think they can ult into a teamfight, lol. Weird stuff going on in that matchup. | ||
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Soloside
United States1238 Posts
On September 28 2010 00:49 Southlight wrote: I feel like Pantheons also love picking off TFs that think they can ult into a teamfight, lol. Weird stuff going on in that matchup. Pantheon would win early game hands down due to his spell scaling. But in most of the late game play I've done against pantheons, I tend to rape them because flash + cleanse > his stun and HS. On September 28 2010 00:44 Southlight wrote: We also need to think about team comps a bit better (and by relation the strats we'll use) instead of this "SHAKE GO NID" and then "WAIT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH DISABLES FUUU" business. Also the "oh shit they banned MF and took Panth and WW" was kinda messy >_> Edit: Also: "omg we have no ranged DPS" I would gladly fill the ranged dps category if I didn't play at 15-20 fps during most teamfights Anyhow, back to the TF lvl 6 gank on the side lanes. I generally tell my sidelanes to start playing more aggressively when I'm at lvl 5 1/2 so that it's possible for me to gank the one that's at low life. If it can't be done, just go back to ricing up mid as much as you can or give some relief to your side lanes and have the jungler hold mid while you allow your other lanes to shop. TF = Map control  | ||
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Zanzabar Haberdasher
United States510 Posts
On September 28 2010 00:45 Southlight wrote: It comes down to knowing junglers and when they're weak at certain timings. It's like using Scan in SCBW to look for muta spawn time et cetera. Have any ballpark figures for common junglers? WW/Amumu? | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
EDIT: LOL, they're still using HSS on you!?!?!?!?!!? | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On September 28 2010 00:51 Soloside wrote: I would gladly fill the ranged dps category if I didn't play at 15-20 fps during most teamfights It's more that EzPz usually does ranged DPS, so then when he gets WW instead (cuz MF gets banned/picked) we end up with weird comps like WW Sona Panth Sion Vlad and it's like WE FORGOT AGAIN. It's silly and unnecessary, hahah. | ||
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