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CyuntiyuL
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada1740 Posts
June 28 2010 19:24 GMT
#341
On June 29 2010 01:58 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
so... any chun players here or are you all worthless clods?


I play Chun mostly, as well as Viper and Ryu.
secret base
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
June 28 2010 22:10 GMT
#342
good man, good man

my other characters are cammy, sakura, and guile
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
June 28 2010 22:38 GMT
#343
Sometimes I watch Super Street Fighter IV on youtube keke

Just type inthul in the search box to find some quality Fei-Long tournament matches.

Ah, I love to see Fei-Long kick ass It is like Bruce Lee making a new movie fighting new opponent.
His Ultra 1 is so cool!~

Sometimes I like watching Akuma Ultra 2 too, because I think it looked stupid yet akuma is trying to make it look very cool kekkekeke.

What is Bruce Lee Favourite Drink?
WAAAATAAAAAAA

Ah, I love Kung Fu!
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
June 29 2010 08:24 GMT
#344
Never in my entire life have i played a game this brutally unforgiving, i get MONSTER-raped in Arcade easy mode, holy shit.

I haven't been this frustrated since the Contra and Gradius days, it's extremely fun though.
We make signature, then defense it.
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1936 Posts
June 29 2010 08:35 GMT
#345
On June 29 2010 17:24 grobo wrote:
Never in my entire life have i played a game this brutally unforgiving, i get MONSTER-raped in Arcade easy mode, holy shit.

I haven't been this frustrated since the Contra and Gradius days, it's extremely fun though.


O.O??

Are you sure you're not playing Super SF2 Turbo? lol

Actually, now that I think about it, seth can be a pain in the ass sometimes. I don't think I've actually played through arcade mode yet on super since the characters come unlocked though.
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
June 29 2010 08:54 GMT
#346
I want nothing more than to be good at this game. SOMEONE HELP.

How the hell do I practice. My execution isn't terrible, I just have no idea how to play intelligently! I've been playing Akuma mainly, but I'd like to learn Makoto and Juri because they are awesome characters.

I felt I had some OK strides today when I was racking up some wins on XBL only zoning people with fireballs, footsies and anti air punishes. It started as my method to deal with the super turtle guiles I keep running into and when I realized I was actually zoning people realtively intelligently I just kept at it for a few hours.

I have no idea how to practice this game, so if anyone has any tips I'd love to hear them! I'm hooked on the competitive scene, the only problem is that I suck... It's a lot like starcraft I guess, but in that regard I actually have practice partners and a good idea of how to practice.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
June 29 2010 14:35 GMT
#347

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..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-29 14:41:26
June 29 2010 14:40 GMT
#348
On June 29 2010 17:35 Trumpet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2010 17:24 grobo wrote:
Never in my entire life have i played a game this brutally unforgiving, i get MONSTER-raped in Arcade easy mode, holy shit.

I haven't been this frustrated since the Contra and Gradius days, it's extremely fun though.


O.O??

Are you sure you're not playing Super SF2 Turbo? lol

Actually, now that I think about it, seth can be a pain in the ass sometimes. I don't think I've actually played through arcade mode yet on super since the characters come unlocked though.

on the origina SF4 I took turns with my friend using c.viper to beat seth on hard mode and we passed the control like 20+ times. We didn't beat him.
Days later I sat down and spent another 30+ tries to finally beat him. I figured out some obscure tactic and just abused it over and over. Had trouble with abel too.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
June 29 2010 15:46 GMT
#349
On June 29 2010 01:58 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
so... any chun players here or are you all worthless clods?


yeah, she's my favorite character, but after a year of poking, grabbing, and lk lk EX legs in SFIV, I got tired of playing as Chun. I have been playing a lot more with Rufus so I can master lk hp link online.

what did you use as your anti-air normal with Chun?
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
June 29 2010 21:47 GMT
#350
On June 29 2010 17:54 keV. wrote:
I want nothing more than to be good at this game. SOMEONE HELP.

How the hell do I practice. My execution isn't terrible, I just have no idea how to play intelligently! I've been playing Akuma mainly, but I'd like to learn Makoto and Juri because they are awesome characters.

I felt I had some OK strides today when I was racking up some wins on XBL only zoning people with fireballs, footsies and anti air punishes. It started as my method to deal with the super turtle guiles I keep running into and when I realized I was actually zoning people realtively intelligently I just kept at it for a few hours.

I have no idea how to practice this game, so if anyone has any tips I'd love to hear them! I'm hooked on the competitive scene, the only problem is that I suck... It's a lot like starcraft I guess, but in that regard I actually have practice partners and a good idea of how to practice.

What's your BP / PP level? It's not the best barometer for measuring how good someone is but it gives me a decent impression of where you're at.

I feel like the best way for people to evaluate your skill is to post video. I don't know where you are in terms of combos or setups.

IMO the best way to practice is to mass game, offline and online. Offline is great because you play with no lag and you can session against people to really know a specific matchup. Online is great because you can play against a variety of characters and you teach yourself how to play against worse players.

I think almost fighting games I've played, I'd mass game and find myself getting better without really knowing what's going on.

Let me know if you need Juri-specific tips since I play her. I also play Sakura which I think is a stupid combination because they share the same weak matchups, IMO.
CyuntiyuL
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada1740 Posts
June 29 2010 21:51 GMT
#351
On June 30 2010 00:46 broz0rs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2010 01:58 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
so... any chun players here or are you all worthless clods?


yeah, she's my favorite character, but after a year of poking, grabbing, and lk lk EX legs in SFIV, I got tired of playing as Chun. I have been playing a lot more with Rufus so I can master lk hp link online.

what did you use as your anti-air normal with Chun?


There's so much more to Chun than what you listed. ):

Anyways, Chun's AA normals are very situational. s.mk, s.rh, cs.rh, s.fp, cs.fp, cr.mp can all be used as anti-airs, it just depends on the character/distance.
secret base
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
June 29 2010 21:53 GMT
#352
What about nj. rh? Everyone loves the sexy kick~
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-29 21:58:43
June 29 2010 21:54 GMT
#353
On June 29 2010 17:54 keV. wrote:
I want nothing more than to be good at this game. SOMEONE HELP.

How the hell do I practice. My execution isn't terrible, I just have no idea how to play intelligently! I've been playing Akuma mainly, but I'd like to learn Makoto and Juri because they are awesome characters.

I felt I had some OK strides today when I was racking up some wins on XBL only zoning people with fireballs, footsies and anti air punishes. It started as my method to deal with the super turtle guiles I keep running into and when I realized I was actually zoning people realtively intelligently I just kept at it for a few hours.

I have no idea how to practice this game, so if anyone has any tips I'd love to hear them! I'm hooked on the competitive scene, the only problem is that I suck... It's a lot like starcraft I guess, but in that regard I actually have practice partners and a good idea of how to practice.


well first off, id probably practice combos first. u say your execution isnt bad, so sounds liek learning combos wont be very hard. hers a few pointers for akuma (main him, but i havent played a match of makoto and like 2 matches of juri).

as for practicing, i suggest live matches with friends around your level, or people in the SSF4/FG community within your area. look for SRK to find who/and how many people play ssf4 in your area. online is a decent place to find practice. u could add people u meet with green bars online, and add them. at least for me (PS3) i feel that greenbars is almost just like live, but yellow and below is just terribad.

also, when u play online u face a variety of chars that u maybe wouldnt or ways to find out how to deal with stuff(ofc depending on your area and wut chars they play). i learned not to focus and deal with adon, how to deal with abel's u2, focusing between messaih kick followups to get a combo (only works when he goes overhead or sweep, mid attack breaks glass) and so much more online! i wouldnt of used some of these in tournaments if i didnt learn about it online hehe

not sure what else to say lol... sawree
Forever Young
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-29 22:01:17
June 29 2010 22:01 GMT
#354
LordOfUltima's Akuma tutorial series might help:
http://www.youtube.com/lordofultima#p/c/D3A36AD82A61CDFC
No.Doubt
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada202 Posts
June 29 2010 23:42 GMT
#355
Can Amazon ship a stick to canada? I just tried to and it wont let me, anyone who lives in canada and who owns a stick can give me a hand?
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
June 30 2010 01:29 GMT
#356
On June 30 2010 07:01 TieN.nS) wrote:
LordOfUltima's Akuma tutorial series might help:
http://www.youtube.com/lordofultima#p/c/D3A36AD82A61CDFC


These are great, thank you for this. I've got a good portion of the bread and butter combos down. I have a decent direction at the moment, I'll stay on it.

I haven't played online really in super yet, only an hour or two. I honestly don't remember what I was at before. I know I was playing bison though. I'd guess 1300-1500 BP.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-30 02:15:19
June 30 2010 02:09 GMT
#357
On June 29 2010 17:54 keV. wrote:
I want nothing more than to be good at this game. SOMEONE HELP.

How the hell do I practice. My execution isn't terrible, I just have no idea how to play intelligently! I've been playing Akuma mainly, but I'd like to learn Makoto and Juri because they are awesome characters.

I felt I had some OK strides today when I was racking up some wins on XBL only zoning people with fireballs, footsies and anti air punishes. It started as my method to deal with the super turtle guiles I keep running into and when I realized I was actually zoning people realtively intelligently I just kept at it for a few hours.

I have no idea how to practice this game, so if anyone has any tips I'd love to hear them! I'm hooked on the competitive scene, the only problem is that I suck... It's a lot like starcraft I guess, but in that regard I actually have practice partners and a good idea of how to practice.

IMO, your first step should be to find a community of cool guys in your area. Check out the Regional Matchmaking forums on SRK:

http://shoryuken.com/f17/

It's going to be a LOT harder to get better at this game without a community of people you know in-person. Partly because it's just so much more fun to play with cool guys offline than online. Not to mention stuff like getting tips in-person after a match or while you're just chillin' at the bar.


To improve, I'd suggest looking at which areas you're weakest in and then focusing on improving them one by one. For example:


Patience. Do you feel comfortable playing without attacking? Are you satisfied just walking forward to move your opponent's back towards the corner, even if you're not hitting them? If you played like this all the time, you might get bored fast. But being able to go into Patient Mode in the middle of a round is a very useful skill. It allows you to focus all of your energy on reacting to and countering your opponent's next move. Have you ever jumped at Rufus, only to see him jump in response and hit you with j.HK and then ultra? Or get air-thrown by Chun Li or Guile? If you play patiently and reactively, then you can react to things like jump-ins very quickly.


Blocking and throw teching. When your opponent is attacking you, should you always just block and tech throw attempts? No! You have many defensive tools such as jumping away, backdashing, poking with jab, and dragon punches and ultras. It's good to mix up between all of these options: you mix up your opponent even though you're the one defending! But basic blocking and throw-teching is the safest option, and usually the hardest to do correctly, so it is particularly important to learn well.


Getting damage. If your opponent is blocking all your attacks and teching all your throws, how do you get significant damage on them? Some characters pretty much have to rely on chip damage: their tools for opening up a blocking opponent are very limited and/or risky. But most characters can rush down and get damage effectively, even if they don't have an overhead or a command grab (two easy ways of beating someone who just crouch-blocks and throw-techs).

Do you have trouble attacking because your opponent just dragon punches or 360s or ultras in between your attacks? Do a couple of quick jabs, block for a sec, then do another jab or walk in for a throw. If they're mashing on DPs or ultras, you'll block their attack and have a chance to punish them. If they don't do anything, you can keep the pressure on.

Do they tech all of your throw attempts? There are a few tricks that they might be using to do this. The simplest is mashing on standing lp+lk while they're blocking your attacks. In that case, hit them with a low, or walk out of throw range and cause them to whiff a throw, which you can punish. Generally-speaking, any other throw-teching trick can be beaten by throwing at different times. E.g. if you always do cr.lp cr.lp throw, your opponents can easily learn to tech it without mashing on throw tech. So mix it up: throw earlier, throw later, or as before, walk backwards out of throw range and hit their whiffed throw.

Do they jab you if you try to walk foward and throw? If you're close enough, you can throw them immediately after a blocked cr.lp and they won't be able to jab you out of it. But if you're farther away, you need to use a "frame trap": leave a gap in your attacks that's big enough to let the opponent's jab start, but small enough that they'll get counter-hit before their jab hits you. This requires good timing, like hitting a 3-frame link, but it's very useful. You can practice it in training mode: record yourself mashing cr.lp, then blocking, then mashing cr.lp again, etc. Then see if you can counter-hit the jab-mashing. E.g. you do cr.lp, then delay a second cr.lp slightly or do a cr.mp to create the frame trap.


These are a few "fundamentals" of fighting games and SSF4. You've already found a way to focus on improving your patience, zoning, and footsies on XBL, which is good.

But XBL can only take you so far: to actually become good you need to use these tactics and others against good, smart players. This is because there is no winning formula that you can practice: there is only what your opponent is expecting and ready to counter, and what he is not expecting.
To practice your ability to fool a good opponent, you need to play against good opponents.
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
July 01 2010 06:23 GMT
#358
Evo next week!

It'll be my first one. =) Unfortunately I'll get there Friday night, which means I can't enter the tournament...
hex
Profile Joined May 2010
13 Posts
July 02 2010 19:59 GMT
#359
On June 29 2010 17:54 keV. wrote:

I have no idea how to practice this game, so if anyone has any tips I'd love to hear them! I'm hooked on the competitive scene, the only problem is that I suck... It's a lot like starcraft I guess, but in that regard I actually have practice partners and a good idea of how to practice.


Everything that Bill307 offered up is sound advice. If you really feel like making an investment in SSF4 I'd suggest getting a fighstick.

People talk about Inthul and his pad Fei but honestly, getting a fightstick helped my execution accuracy in game by a LOT. As a plus, once you get accustomed to using a stick you can start racking up kills in a real arcade setting :D.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
July 02 2010 20:02 GMT
#360
just to add on teh post above i used to be a pad player. now in ssf4 i don't think it really matters what u use, but when i tried to play mvc2 on pad for lols last night..... god was that hard lol
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