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Serpico
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Gino-
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On June 17 2010 07:51 Holcan wrote: Kobe kicked the other leg out from him causing him to fall awkwardly, certainly looked like a kobe foul as well lolz, all well the series is over, the most important part of Boston is gone, unless Ray Allen is amazing or something else happens this is not going to end well for Celtics fans. What play were you watching? He just landed awkwardly on the knee jumping for the ball, it wasn't any kind of malicious foul by anyone (he DID get fouled obviously, but it's not like "HEY IM GONNA INJURE YOU GG BITCH") | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
If you dont think Kobe wasnt about to take a foul on that play, i have nothing else to say. | ||
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x2fst
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Xeris
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where's the kick o-o; | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
anyways, now that ive stated twice that you are talking down to people, ill continue the discussion in a mannered direction. You can see in the replay that kobes knee is pushing Perkins, tbh i thought he injured his left knee, but it seems like it was his right, the exact side that kobe is fouling him on, its not a very good replay, you only see the end of the leg to leg contact. | ||
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x2fst
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Holcan
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On June 17 2010 13:30 x2fst wrote: that is a completely standard rebounding tactic, players knee the back of other player's legs all the time to unsettle their balance and establish position I know, and i dont have a problem with him doing it, for the most part, except its about as dirty as jumping underneath a jump shooter, and ten times as dangerous to the other player :p w/e good way for kobe to get a ring. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On June 17 2010 11:05 Holcan wrote: i didnt say he did any action with any sort of malice thats for sure, i said if you watch the play he kicks his OTHER leg out from him while trying to hard foul him, Your wording makes it sound a lot more malicious than it was. You specifically said "kicked" - which has a certain connotation. Look at the link I posted. Watch between 6-10 seconds. There's no "kicking" action, he just shuffles his leg to get positioning. Woopdidoo. | ||
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Butigroove
Seychelles2061 Posts
Perkin's will be back next year WITH ANOTHER RING. | ||
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Miss_Cleo
United States406 Posts
On June 17 2010 15:01 Xeris wrote: Your wording makes it sound a lot more malicious than it was. You specifically said "kicked" - which has a certain connotation. Look at the link I posted. Watch between 6-10 seconds. There's no "kicking" action, he just shuffles his leg to get positioning. Woopdidoo. Exactly what he said. Kobe did not kick out his leg, or kick out Perkins leg underneath him. Perkin's leg was caught awkwardly on Kobes knees as he was going up hard for the rebound. It wasn't Kobe's fault, it was just a freak accident and that happens all the time in the NBA. I'm starting to dislike this forum, posts started out civilly and people were actually posting about educated observations about the game. Now there's too many posts bashing players as well as user bashing. It's obvious from your posts that you don't like Kobe. Make it less obvious from now on Holcan. | ||
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
1) they didn't have homecourt advantage due to tanking the 2nd half of the season 2) Rasheed Wallace, now as the primary center, can't avoid foul trouble and jacks up terrible 3's and loses the Celtics the game, and runs out of gas because he's out of shape. Boston anti-fans who believed that the 2007-2008 Patriots lost due to bad karma from running up the score and overconfidence are grasping at straws, but I think there's a strong chance the 2009-2010 Celtics losing due to the bad "karma" outlined above. Rasheed Wallace, it's Judgement Day. - I believe this thread has fewer educated observations about the game than horribly biased super fans. But then again I met a guy in the gym the other day who was convinced beyond rational arguments that Kobe was better than Jordan and the greatest player of all time, so there's no escape from the crazy. | ||
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ActualSteve
United States627 Posts
They are going to take the Finals. Given their good decision-making as far as players ... I see this less a reflection of that hoodrat Artest, and more a result of the Kwame Brown trade. | ||
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Ack1027
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tonight
United States11130 Posts
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korean7793
United States61 Posts
On June 17 2010 12:17 x2fst wrote: the books have lakers like 3:1 favs, that's pretty massive. one reason for that is the rondo-allen-pierce-sheed-kg lineup performed significantly worse than the starting lineup with perkins during the regular season, but imo there's potential for an upset. wallace has defended gasol very well at times this series and has the potential to create a strong celtic offense if he plays well, having sheed out there does should open up driving opportunities for rondo and pierce. won't be betting on it though Even though there's a 3:1 favorite to the lakers I definitely wouldn't call this an upset if the Celtics beat the Lakers tonight. Even though they were a bit horrendous throughout the regular season they definitely looked like a #1 seed from the east during the playoffs. | ||
XaI)CyRiC
United States4471 Posts
Sheed is still one of the better post defenders in the league, and has shown himself capable of making things difficult for Pau. There's still the Lakers advantage in that Sheed's conditioning and propensity to pick up fouls will prevent him from being able to guard Pau all game, particularly since Gasol plays so many minutes, but Sheed can be quite effective in the time he is in. I expect Big Baby to come out very aggressive and he's shown himself to be a very effective big against the Lakers. He's precisely the kind of guy that gives Odom problems, and Bynum's questionable status makes it likely that they'll be on the floor at the same time a lot tonight. My hope is that the Lakers can use Bynum to stifle Davis early and build up a nice lead like in the previous game, and possibly putting Gasol on Davis while Odom guards Sheed or KG later on. Shelden Williams has played very poorly for BOS so far, but he doesn't have to play that well to do his job (give time for KG/Sheed/Davis to rest). He'll be ready to play more minutes this game, as opposed to last game where it was a surprise to everyone, and I'm sure the Celtics will do everything they can to motivate him and make things easier for him on the floor when he's in. Lastly, Bynum being very limited will serve to balance out Perkins' absence to some degree. I'm hoping that Bynum will be able to play well in the first half and help the Lakers get off to a good start, but it's still up in the air and possible that he'll be more limited than any other game so far. With all that said, I still feel pretty confident the Lakers are going to win it tonight. Perkins being out makes the matchups a little better for the Lakers, and they've shown themselves to be a very good home team. The fact that this game has been hyped up so much and that it's a Game 7 will make sure that the Lakers will come out fully motivated and driven to win. The biggest weakness the Lakers have is their bench and role players, but they play significantly better when at home. I believe that the Lakers are the better team when both teams are playing their best, and I expect both teams to do so this game. It won't be an easy victory, but I think the Lakers will win out in the end with their defense (which has shown itself to be comparable to Boston's at times) and superior offense. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
a) Can Rasheed Wallace avoid foul trouble. He's actually a really great defender (see cyric's post) but his problem is getting in foul trouble.. if he can not pick up fouls he can be really effective at slowing down Gasol. b) Will Big Baby have another big game. Was game 4 an aberration, or can he bring it again? I don't think he necessarily needs to be getting 20-10 to have a big game, but what he needs to do is control the paint and discourage people like Kobe, Odom, and Artest from driving to the basket. c) Boston's team defense needs to keep Kobe out of the paint. They were so effective in 2008 because they literally would not let him drive. In two of their losses (I believe Game 4 and 2) they were playing that 2008 style defense and Kobe took a lot of jumpers. If Kobe is going to beat Boston, they should make him do it from the perimeter. d) Rondo needs to play with fire. He's been way too timid this series in general. Sure he's had some good moments and one really strong game, but overall he's not playing like the point guard who was probably the best player in the playoffs through the first three rounds. I don't know whether it's the 24% FT shooting, or the lack of a consistent jumper that's getting to him, but whatever it is he needs to get his mojo back. e) Obviously, Pierce and Allen can't play like shit either. It's not far fetched for Boston to be able to win. When their defense is on, they're REALLY hard to beat. | ||
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XaI)CyRiC
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