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On March 19 2011 05:59 Coagulation wrote:
i just got this shit. (white Version)
im about to start it up.. i was wondering if there are any 1st 2nd gen pokemon you can catch in this one.
Not until you finish the main campaign (beating the Elite 4 the first time around). Once you do that, plenty of Pokes from the previous generations pop up.
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On March 19 2011 05:56 Jayme wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2011 05:47 Djagulingu wrote:
Darumaka and Darmantian look so damn good that I can't believe. I started to regret not taking water starter. To make a good Darmantian, nothing is required because all his good moves come with leveling. FML. Only problem I have with Darmantian is that it's physically attack based. This means that the steel walls that Fire is usually responsible for breaking will give it a harder time because of that fact that steel is so high on the physical defense side of things. That and the only good STAB move it has on hand happens to be Flare Blitz. Which is great and all but it'll damage itself a ton. A Superpower/Flare Blitz/EQ move set could prove to be pretty damn good though regardless. Just don't let him get hit.
He also has access to belly drum. He'll sweep any single team with belly drum-lefties set along with sheer force ability, adamant nature and flare blitz-eq-superpower-belly drum set. Damn, it makes me drool so bad.
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On March 19 2011 06:36 Djagulingu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2011 05:56 Jayme wrote:On March 19 2011 05:47 Djagulingu wrote:
Darumaka and Darmantian look so damn good that I can't believe. I started to regret not taking water starter. To make a good Darmantian, nothing is required because all his good moves come with leveling. FML. Only problem I have with Darmantian is that it's physically attack based. This means that the steel walls that Fire is usually responsible for breaking will give it a harder time because of that fact that steel is so high on the physical defense side of things. That and the only good STAB move it has on hand happens to be Flare Blitz. Which is great and all but it'll damage itself a ton. A Superpower/Flare Blitz/EQ move set could prove to be pretty damn good though regardless. Just don't let him get hit. He also has access to belly drum. He'll sweep any single team with belly drum-lefties set along with sheer force ability, adamant nature and flare blitz-eq-superpower-belly drum set. Damn, it makes me drool so bad.
How does his dreamworld ability work?
After 50% his atk becomes SPA? or what? I don't really understand it. It doesn't make sense to EV all Special attack for the DW ability
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On March 19 2011 06:39 NuKedUFirst wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2011 06:36 Djagulingu wrote:On March 19 2011 05:56 Jayme wrote:On March 19 2011 05:47 Djagulingu wrote:
Darumaka and Darmantian look so damn good that I can't believe. I started to regret not taking water starter. To make a good Darmantian, nothing is required because all his good moves come with leveling. FML. Only problem I have with Darmantian is that it's physically attack based. This means that the steel walls that Fire is usually responsible for breaking will give it a harder time because of that fact that steel is so high on the physical defense side of things. That and the only good STAB move it has on hand happens to be Flare Blitz. Which is great and all but it'll damage itself a ton. A Superpower/Flare Blitz/EQ move set could prove to be pretty damn good though regardless. Just don't let him get hit. He also has access to belly drum. He'll sweep any single team with belly drum-lefties set along with sheer force ability, adamant nature and flare blitz-eq-superpower-belly drum set. Damn, it makes me drool so bad. How does his dreamworld ability work? After 50% his atk becomes SPA? or what? I don't really understand it. It doesn't make sense to EV all Special attack for the DW ability
He gets into a completely different shape, with better special attack, worse physical attack, better defenses and worse speed. In short, he turns from a belly drum sweeper into a special attacker-combo wall with 105-105-105 defensive stats.
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On March 19 2011 06:39 NuKedUFirst wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2011 06:36 Djagulingu wrote:On March 19 2011 05:56 Jayme wrote:On March 19 2011 05:47 Djagulingu wrote:
Darumaka and Darmantian look so damn good that I can't believe. I started to regret not taking water starter. To make a good Darmantian, nothing is required because all his good moves come with leveling. FML. Only problem I have with Darmantian is that it's physically attack based. This means that the steel walls that Fire is usually responsible for breaking will give it a harder time because of that fact that steel is so high on the physical defense side of things. That and the only good STAB move it has on hand happens to be Flare Blitz. Which is great and all but it'll damage itself a ton. A Superpower/Flare Blitz/EQ move set could prove to be pretty damn good though regardless. Just don't let him get hit. He also has access to belly drum. He'll sweep any single team with belly drum-lefties set along with sheer force ability, adamant nature and flare blitz-eq-superpower-belly drum set. Damn, it makes me drool so bad. How does his dreamworld ability work? After 50% his atk becomes SPA? or what? I don't really understand it. It doesn't make sense to EV all Special attack for the DW ability
I think his attack stats replace his defense stats or something. It turns into some kinda Fire/Psychic wall.
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On March 19 2011 06:39 NuKedUFirst wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2011 06:36 Djagulingu wrote:On March 19 2011 05:56 Jayme wrote:On March 19 2011 05:47 Djagulingu wrote:
Darumaka and Darmantian look so damn good that I can't believe. I started to regret not taking water starter. To make a good Darmantian, nothing is required because all his good moves come with leveling. FML. Only problem I have with Darmantian is that it's physically attack based. This means that the steel walls that Fire is usually responsible for breaking will give it a harder time because of that fact that steel is so high on the physical defense side of things. That and the only good STAB move it has on hand happens to be Flare Blitz. Which is great and all but it'll damage itself a ton. A Superpower/Flare Blitz/EQ move set could prove to be pretty damn good though regardless. Just don't let him get hit. He also has access to belly drum. He'll sweep any single team with belly drum-lefties set along with sheer force ability, adamant nature and flare blitz-eq-superpower-belly drum set. Damn, it makes me drool so bad. How does his dreamworld ability work? After 50% his atk becomes SPA? or what? I don't really understand it. It doesn't make sense to EV all Special attack for the DW ability
From what i've read while under 50% hp he becomes psychic/fire type and his attack and spec attack values are switched and his defense go up while speed goes down.
If you go with a belly drum / flare blitz / super power / psychic move set he can basically be a super physical or super special attack sweeper.
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On March 19 2011 06:36 Djagulingu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2011 05:56 Jayme wrote:On March 19 2011 05:47 Djagulingu wrote:
Darumaka and Darmantian look so damn good that I can't believe. I started to regret not taking water starter. To make a good Darmantian, nothing is required because all his good moves come with leveling. FML. Only problem I have with Darmantian is that it's physically attack based. This means that the steel walls that Fire is usually responsible for breaking will give it a harder time because of that fact that steel is so high on the physical defense side of things. That and the only good STAB move it has on hand happens to be Flare Blitz. Which is great and all but it'll damage itself a ton. A Superpower/Flare Blitz/EQ move set could prove to be pretty damn good though regardless. Just don't let him get hit. He also has access to belly drum. He'll sweep any single team with belly drum-lefties set along with sheer force ability, adamant nature and flare blitz-eq-superpower-belly drum set. Damn, it makes me drool so bad.
Completely shut down by priority, and he'd kill himself with flare blitz after 2/3 uses.. This whole belly drum shit has been tried by Charizard before to no avail. Darmanitan does have much better attack but is slower and has paper defenses.
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Is there a R4 patch for Pokemon Black/White? o-o
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On March 19 2011 06:45 Asshat wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2011 06:36 Djagulingu wrote:On March 19 2011 05:56 Jayme wrote:On March 19 2011 05:47 Djagulingu wrote:
Darumaka and Darmantian look so damn good that I can't believe. I started to regret not taking water starter. To make a good Darmantian, nothing is required because all his good moves come with leveling. FML. Only problem I have with Darmantian is that it's physically attack based. This means that the steel walls that Fire is usually responsible for breaking will give it a harder time because of that fact that steel is so high on the physical defense side of things. That and the only good STAB move it has on hand happens to be Flare Blitz. Which is great and all but it'll damage itself a ton. A Superpower/Flare Blitz/EQ move set could prove to be pretty damn good though regardless. Just don't let him get hit. He also has access to belly drum. He'll sweep any single team with belly drum-lefties set along with sheer force ability, adamant nature and flare blitz-eq-superpower-belly drum set. Damn, it makes me drool so bad. Completely shut down by priority, and he'd kill himself with flare blitz after 2/3 uses.. This whole belly drum shit has been tried by Charizard before to no avail. Darmanitan does have much better attack but is slower and has paper defenses.
I've been using bellydrum flare blitz as basically more of a trade than anything else. Because of his high attack and multipliers from sheer force and STAB, he can usually put a pretty amazing dent (or outright kill) anything that isn't resistant to fire. Yes that usually also kills him but you can use life orb for more damage (it doesnt do double recoil) or leftovers and try to recover some of the flare blitz damage.
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On March 19 2011 06:45 Asshat wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2011 06:36 Djagulingu wrote:On March 19 2011 05:56 Jayme wrote:On March 19 2011 05:47 Djagulingu wrote:
Darumaka and Darmantian look so damn good that I can't believe. I started to regret not taking water starter. To make a good Darmantian, nothing is required because all his good moves come with leveling. FML. Only problem I have with Darmantian is that it's physically attack based. This means that the steel walls that Fire is usually responsible for breaking will give it a harder time because of that fact that steel is so high on the physical defense side of things. That and the only good STAB move it has on hand happens to be Flare Blitz. Which is great and all but it'll damage itself a ton. A Superpower/Flare Blitz/EQ move set could prove to be pretty damn good though regardless. Just don't let him get hit. He also has access to belly drum. He'll sweep any single team with belly drum-lefties set along with sheer force ability, adamant nature and flare blitz-eq-superpower-belly drum set. Damn, it makes me drool so bad. Completely shut down by priority, and he'd kill himself with flare blitz after 2/3 uses.. This whole belly drum shit has been tried by Charizard before to no avail. Darmanitan does have much better attack but is slower and has paper defenses.
Lol, with 95 base speed you don't even need priority to kill this guy. Such a waste of potential T_T
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what happen to the formation where the first 5 just boost the accuracy and the last 1 use One HIT-KO 6 times?
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On March 19 2011 07:01 Kyuukyuu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2011 06:45 Asshat wrote:On March 19 2011 06:36 Djagulingu wrote:On March 19 2011 05:56 Jayme wrote:On March 19 2011 05:47 Djagulingu wrote:
Darumaka and Darmantian look so damn good that I can't believe. I started to regret not taking water starter. To make a good Darmantian, nothing is required because all his good moves come with leveling. FML. Only problem I have with Darmantian is that it's physically attack based. This means that the steel walls that Fire is usually responsible for breaking will give it a harder time because of that fact that steel is so high on the physical defense side of things. That and the only good STAB move it has on hand happens to be Flare Blitz. Which is great and all but it'll damage itself a ton. A Superpower/Flare Blitz/EQ move set could prove to be pretty damn good though regardless. Just don't let him get hit. He also has access to belly drum. He'll sweep any single team with belly drum-lefties set along with sheer force ability, adamant nature and flare blitz-eq-superpower-belly drum set. Damn, it makes me drool so bad. Completely shut down by priority, and he'd kill himself with flare blitz after 2/3 uses.. This whole belly drum shit has been tried by Charizard before to no avail. Darmanitan does have much better attack but is slower and has paper defenses. Lol, with 95 base speed you don't even need priority to kill this guy. Such a waste of potential T_T
If you try really hard you can setup spikes and then baton pass agility with Accelgor or toxic spikes with Scolipede to make up for his speed deficit
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On March 19 2011 06:36 Djagulingu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2011 05:56 Jayme wrote:On March 19 2011 05:47 Djagulingu wrote:
Darumaka and Darmantian look so damn good that I can't believe. I started to regret not taking water starter. To make a good Darmantian, nothing is required because all his good moves come with leveling. FML. Only problem I have with Darmantian is that it's physically attack based. This means that the steel walls that Fire is usually responsible for breaking will give it a harder time because of that fact that steel is so high on the physical defense side of things. That and the only good STAB move it has on hand happens to be Flare Blitz. Which is great and all but it'll damage itself a ton. A Superpower/Flare Blitz/EQ move set could prove to be pretty damn good though regardless. Just don't let him get hit. He also has access to belly drum. He'll sweep any single team with belly drum-lefties set along with sheer force ability, adamant nature and flare blitz-eq-superpower-belly drum set. Damn, it makes me drool so bad.
Belly drum will probably never work, considering that:
- his defenses are 0
- sash or sturdy = gg
- he is slow as fuck
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On March 19 2011 07:08 Phrost wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2011 07:01 Kyuukyuu wrote:On March 19 2011 06:45 Asshat wrote:On March 19 2011 06:36 Djagulingu wrote:On March 19 2011 05:56 Jayme wrote:On March 19 2011 05:47 Djagulingu wrote:
Darumaka and Darmantian look so damn good that I can't believe. I started to regret not taking water starter. To make a good Darmantian, nothing is required because all his good moves come with leveling. FML. Only problem I have with Darmantian is that it's physically attack based. This means that the steel walls that Fire is usually responsible for breaking will give it a harder time because of that fact that steel is so high on the physical defense side of things. That and the only good STAB move it has on hand happens to be Flare Blitz. Which is great and all but it'll damage itself a ton. A Superpower/Flare Blitz/EQ move set could prove to be pretty damn good though regardless. Just don't let him get hit. He also has access to belly drum. He'll sweep any single team with belly drum-lefties set along with sheer force ability, adamant nature and flare blitz-eq-superpower-belly drum set. Damn, it makes me drool so bad. Completely shut down by priority, and he'd kill himself with flare blitz after 2/3 uses.. This whole belly drum shit has been tried by Charizard before to no avail. Darmanitan does have much better attack but is slower and has paper defenses. Lol, with 95 base speed you don't even need priority to kill this guy. Such a waste of potential T_T If you try really hard you can setup spikes and then baton pass agility with Accelgor or toxic spikes with Scolipede to make up for his speed deficit
Yeah but if I was gonna do that I wouldn't use something as bad as Darmanitan to pass it to
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On March 19 2011 07:25 synapse wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2011 06:36 Djagulingu wrote:On March 19 2011 05:56 Jayme wrote:On March 19 2011 05:47 Djagulingu wrote:
Darumaka and Darmantian look so damn good that I can't believe. I started to regret not taking water starter. To make a good Darmantian, nothing is required because all his good moves come with leveling. FML. Only problem I have with Darmantian is that it's physically attack based. This means that the steel walls that Fire is usually responsible for breaking will give it a harder time because of that fact that steel is so high on the physical defense side of things. That and the only good STAB move it has on hand happens to be Flare Blitz. Which is great and all but it'll damage itself a ton. A Superpower/Flare Blitz/EQ move set could prove to be pretty damn good though regardless. Just don't let him get hit. He also has access to belly drum. He'll sweep any single team with belly drum-lefties set along with sheer force ability, adamant nature and flare blitz-eq-superpower-belly drum set. Damn, it makes me drool so bad. Belly drum will probably never work, considering that: - his defenses are 0 - sash or sturdy = gg - he is slow as fuck
Belly Drum may work in a few places imo. Otherwise, this guy looks like a choice cannon. With band on trick room teams and scarf on others.
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On March 19 2011 08:08 Djagulingu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2011 07:25 synapse wrote:On March 19 2011 06:36 Djagulingu wrote:On March 19 2011 05:56 Jayme wrote:On March 19 2011 05:47 Djagulingu wrote:
Darumaka and Darmantian look so damn good that I can't believe. I started to regret not taking water starter. To make a good Darmantian, nothing is required because all his good moves come with leveling. FML. Only problem I have with Darmantian is that it's physically attack based. This means that the steel walls that Fire is usually responsible for breaking will give it a harder time because of that fact that steel is so high on the physical defense side of things. That and the only good STAB move it has on hand happens to be Flare Blitz. Which is great and all but it'll damage itself a ton. A Superpower/Flare Blitz/EQ move set could prove to be pretty damn good though regardless. Just don't let him get hit. He also has access to belly drum. He'll sweep any single team with belly drum-lefties set along with sheer force ability, adamant nature and flare blitz-eq-superpower-belly drum set. Damn, it makes me drool so bad. Belly drum will probably never work, considering that: - his defenses are 0 - sash or sturdy = gg - he is slow as fuck Belly Drum may work in a few places imo. Otherwise, this guy looks like a choice cannon. With band on trick room teams and scarf on others.
his speed is WAAAAAAY too high for a trick room team... Conkuldurr does what darmantian does at a MUCH lower speed... and it has guts for an even larger power boost (flame orb conkuldurr in trick room, oh ya).
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On March 19 2011 09:23 NuKedUFirst wrote:http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-bw/612.shtml Haxorus, what a beast, what would be a good nature, ev spread and move set for him? I am thinking Jolly, 252 atk, 252 speed, 4 hp life orb. Is that good?
After showcasing its true self, Haxorus was definitely not worth all the hype it received pre-release. It's such a fragile dragon that it's only really good for revenge killing unless your opponent is caught completely off guard.
The two other dragons in this gen, Hydreigon and Druddigon, outshine Haxorus in many ways.
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On March 19 2011 09:39 Pvvned wrote:After showcasing its true self, Haxorus was definitely not worth all the hype it received pre-release. It's such a fragile dragon that it's only really good for revenge killing unless your opponent is caught completely off guard. The two other dragons in this gen, Hydreigon and Druddigon, outshine Haxorus in many ways.
Really? They have similar stats, but a little bit more defense and Hydreigon has an awful move set as far as i'm concerned as he is more of a SpAttacker. Similar stats across the board except a little defense, no?
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On March 19 2011 09:39 Pvvned wrote:After showcasing its true self, Haxorus was definitely not worth all the hype it received pre-release. It's such a fragile dragon that it's only really good for revenge killing unless your opponent is caught completely off guard. The two other dragons in this gen, Hydreigon and Druddigon, outshine Haxorus in many ways.
I haven't heard much Druddigon praise. Care to elaborate, cause he seems average-at-best to me.
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