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Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
March 19 2011 00:44 GMT
#1201
Druddigon seems like he'll join Altaria as a UU Dragon.
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KnightOfNi
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1508 Posts
March 19 2011 00:51 GMT
#1202
Get my FC :D

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Dark-Storm
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada334 Posts
March 19 2011 00:57 GMT
#1203
w00t was on the gameFaqs trade boards and there is a guy giving away Japanesse Ditto's "A japanmesse Ditto has a 8x multiplier for the egg to have a shiny pokemon in it" 2nd egg i hatch I get a shiny Snivy w00t
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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
March 19 2011 00:59 GMT
#1204
On March 19 2011 09:41 TALegion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2011 09:39 Pvvned wrote:
On March 19 2011 09:23 NuKedUFirst wrote:
http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-bw/612.shtml Haxorus, what a beast, what would be a good nature, ev spread and move set for him? I am thinking Jolly, 252 atk, 252 speed, 4 hp life orb. Is that good?

After showcasing its true self, Haxorus was definitely not worth all the hype it received pre-release. It's such a fragile dragon that it's only really good for revenge killing unless your opponent is caught completely off guard.

The two other dragons in this gen, Hydreigon and Druddigon, outshine Haxorus in many ways.

I haven't heard much Druddigon praise. Care to elaborate, cause he seems average-at-best to me.

It has very high attack (not as much as Haxorus obviously) and decent defenses... I could see him being a fairly bulky sucker-puncher or trickroom dragon.
:)
Asshat
Profile Joined September 2010
593 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-19 01:01:49
March 19 2011 01:00 GMT
#1205
On March 19 2011 09:39 Pvvned wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2011 09:23 NuKedUFirst wrote:
http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-bw/612.shtml Haxorus, what a beast, what would be a good nature, ev spread and move set for him? I am thinking Jolly, 252 atk, 252 speed, 4 hp life orb. Is that good?

After showcasing its true self, Haxorus was definitely not worth all the hype it received pre-release. It's such a fragile dragon that it's only really good for revenge killing unless your opponent is caught completely off guard.

The two other dragons in this gen, Hydreigon and Druddigon, outshine Haxorus in many ways.



You might be mixing it up, Druddigon is terrible. He has good but unimpressive attack (by dragon standards, every other dragon has higher attack) and decent defenses, but he's ridiculously slow and lacks the setup moves every other good dragon has. Good fight with Altaria for worst dragon type in the game.

While Haxorus is an excellent pokemon, ridiculously high 147 attack, average defenses and speed, and a movepool that only misses Stone Edge, but has X-Scissor instead. If he had an extra 6 base speed he'd be in the conversation for best OU dragon in the game, but because he doesn't, he's just Garchomp lite. Outclassed but still has a spot, very good ability as well.
Dark-Storm
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada334 Posts
March 19 2011 01:00 GMT
#1206
through Breeding though you could get a Hydreigon that knows Dark pulse though
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NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
March 19 2011 01:01 GMT
#1207
On March 19 2011 09:57 Dark-Storm wrote:
w00t was on the gameFaqs trade boards and there is a guy giving away Japanesse Ditto's "A japanmesse Ditto has a 8x multiplier for the egg to have a shiny pokemon in it" 2nd egg i hatch I get a shiny Snivy w00t



Really? Source?
Where can ditto be caught in black/white? A friend of mine has a japanese game ..
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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
March 19 2011 01:03 GMT
#1208
On March 19 2011 10:01 NuKedUFirst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2011 09:57 Dark-Storm wrote:
w00t was on the gameFaqs trade boards and there is a guy giving away Japanesse Ditto's "A japanmesse Ditto has a 8x multiplier for the egg to have a shiny pokemon in it" 2nd egg i hatch I get a shiny Snivy w00t



Really? Source?
Where can ditto be caught in black/white? A friend of mine has a japanese game ..

Pokemon traded from games of other languages supposedly increase your shiny hatch rate by 4x.
(I think this fact is on serebii somewhere)
:)
Dark-Storm
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada334 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-19 01:08:26
March 19 2011 01:05 GMT
#1209
I dont know where ditto can be caught but the info is on Serebii about it

edit: I believe it can be caught in the giant Chasm. not sure though
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adeezy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1428 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-19 01:35:07
March 19 2011 01:27 GMT
#1210
ZOMG. So if you guys are trying to catch a thundurous or tornadus, the stats are set THE MOMENT you get out of the house.... Personally I totally messed up >.>. Now I'm stuck with a brave nature tornadus. I'm going to make some use out of em by making him a double stat sweeper, lol.

After further research I found out this though

"Roamers' stats and natures are usually set when released (before even being fought the first time).

You can KO and reset for a new Tornadus by beating the Elite 4."
I asked my friend how the ratio at a party was, he replied. "Let's just say for every guy there was two dudes."
Pvvned
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States406 Posts
March 19 2011 01:37 GMT
#1211
On March 19 2011 10:00 Asshat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2011 09:39 Pvvned wrote:
On March 19 2011 09:23 NuKedUFirst wrote:
http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-bw/612.shtml Haxorus, what a beast, what would be a good nature, ev spread and move set for him? I am thinking Jolly, 252 atk, 252 speed, 4 hp life orb. Is that good?

After showcasing its true self, Haxorus was definitely not worth all the hype it received pre-release. It's such a fragile dragon that it's only really good for revenge killing unless your opponent is caught completely off guard.

The two other dragons in this gen, Hydreigon and Druddigon, outshine Haxorus in many ways.



You might be mixing it up, Druddigon is terrible. He has good but unimpressive attack (by dragon standards, every other dragon has higher attack) and decent defenses, but he's ridiculously slow and lacks the setup moves every other good dragon has. Good fight with Altaria for worst dragon type in the game.

While Haxorus is an excellent pokemon, ridiculously high 147 attack, average defenses and speed, and a movepool that only misses Stone Edge, but has X-Scissor instead. If he had an extra 6 base speed he'd be in the conversation for best OU dragon in the game, but because he doesn't, he's just Garchomp lite. Outclassed but still has a spot, very good ability as well.

True, my preference for Druddigon did shroud my opinion of those two dragons. It requires a different playstyle from the other dragons because it needs Trick Room to be effective, so Haxorus is better than it.

However, I don't believe Haxorus is an excellent pokemon exactly because of those reasons you stated. Yes, ridiculous attack, but the poor defenses and the awkward speed tier just makes it the dragon-type glass cannon.

I really believe that it will settle into a role as a revenge killer in OU.
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ScarletKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States691 Posts
March 19 2011 01:55 GMT
#1212
On March 19 2011 10:00 Asshat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2011 09:39 Pvvned wrote:
On March 19 2011 09:23 NuKedUFirst wrote:
http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-bw/612.shtml Haxorus, what a beast, what would be a good nature, ev spread and move set for him? I am thinking Jolly, 252 atk, 252 speed, 4 hp life orb. Is that good?

After showcasing its true self, Haxorus was definitely not worth all the hype it received pre-release. It's such a fragile dragon that it's only really good for revenge killing unless your opponent is caught completely off guard.

The two other dragons in this gen, Hydreigon and Druddigon, outshine Haxorus in many ways.



You might be mixing it up, Druddigon is terrible. He has good but unimpressive attack (by dragon standards, every other dragon has higher attack) and decent defenses, but he's ridiculously slow and lacks the setup moves every other good dragon has. Good fight with Altaria for worst dragon type in the game.

While Haxorus is an excellent pokemon, ridiculously high 147 attack, average defenses and speed, and a movepool that only misses Stone Edge, but has X-Scissor instead. If he had an extra 6 base speed he'd be in the conversation for best OU dragon in the game, but because he doesn't, he's just Garchomp lite. Outclassed but still has a spot, very good ability as well.


Well if you manage to land an Axew with a Jolly nature then the speed problem becomes null. Haxorus is a solid poke but I agree it really is just Garchomp but a bit slower and weaker, though with less type weaknesses as a pure Dragon type.
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Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
March 19 2011 02:47 GMT
#1213
For those that are hatting on Druddigon... you obviously have never heard of Trick Room.

Now, for a trick room team, you need powerful SLOW sweepers.

What we have in Druddigon is a poweful SLOW dragon with outrage that can 1 hit other scary dragons that are commonly used such as garchomp, salamance, or haxorus.

This means the more powerful dragons never get to attack or set up. 120 power stab on 120 base attack
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Dark-Storm
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada334 Posts
March 19 2011 03:05 GMT
#1214
I'll stick with my Dragon Dance Adament Tyranitar for my Sweeper
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Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
March 19 2011 03:23 GMT
#1215
So whats a good level 5-10 pokemon to catch early and use
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-19 03:35:50
March 19 2011 03:33 GMT
#1216
On March 19 2011 12:23 Coagulation wrote:
So whats a good level 5-10 pokemon to catch early and use

Nothing, really. If you catch a patrat, it'll get some nice moves early on (crunch at like lvl 17, hypnosis soon aftewards), but you're going to drop it by 25ish. I'd stick with just the starter + monkey for a while, then worry about other pokes once in the 20's.

On March 19 2011 12:05 Dark-Storm wrote:
I'll stick with my Dragon Dance Adament Tyranitar for my Sweeper

Grass knot/HP fighting?
:)
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
March 19 2011 03:37 GMT
#1217
On March 19 2011 12:23 Coagulation wrote:
So whats a good level 5-10 pokemon to catch early and use


I'd say Munna, but there are so many damn Purrloins early on that Munna gets destroyed if you don't have a Fighting/Bug Pokemon -_-

Luckily, I have both Sawk and Whirlipede :D
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Mashes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada441 Posts
March 19 2011 03:38 GMT
#1218
On March 19 2011 09:41 TALegion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2011 09:39 Pvvned wrote:
On March 19 2011 09:23 NuKedUFirst wrote:
http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-bw/612.shtml Haxorus, what a beast, what would be a good nature, ev spread and move set for him? I am thinking Jolly, 252 atk, 252 speed, 4 hp life orb. Is that good?

After showcasing its true self, Haxorus was definitely not worth all the hype it received pre-release. It's such a fragile dragon that it's only really good for revenge killing unless your opponent is caught completely off guard.

The two other dragons in this gen, Hydreigon and Druddigon, outshine Haxorus in many ways.

I haven't heard much Druddigon praise. Care to elaborate, cause he seems average-at-best to me.


He's pretty bad.. 48 Spd should tell you what you need to know. Compared to Haxorus he's got slightly more SpDef, less Atk, and is about half as fast. Although Haxorus is still kinda slow compared to quite a few other popular sweepers, and needs to get at least a Dragon Dance off to be effective without Choice Scarf.

I do agree Hydreigon is probably the best, good movepool, good SpAtk. But suffers the same problems as a lot of the Gen V pokemon, Speed.
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-19 03:44:24
March 19 2011 03:41 GMT
#1219
On March 19 2011 12:05 Dark-Storm wrote:
I'll stick with my Dragon Dance Adament Tyranitar for my Sweeper


You use Tyranitar to sweep?

When do you actually get a chance to ever setup? Tyranitar gets wasted by every fighting move in the game, of which there are MANY.

I was quite partial to DD salamance until it got the ban hammer. I'm still not quite sure why Salamence got the ban hammer.

Garchomp I understand because that extra 2 to base Speed makes a HUGE difference, but I never had an issue with Salamence.

Oh well, I tend to concentrate on Special sweepers now in OU or a Sand Stream team. I don't play OU much thankfully.

I don't really like any of the new dragons.

Hydregion isn't really my cup of tea, I'm not a fan of special based Dragon types. Haxorus is a glass cannon among glass cannons but it doesn't really have the speed to use it effectively. Druddigon is pure trick room gimmick.
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Mashes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada441 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-19 03:46:02
March 19 2011 03:41 GMT
#1220
On March 19 2011 10:01 NuKedUFirst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2011 09:57 Dark-Storm wrote:
w00t was on the gameFaqs trade boards and there is a guy giving away Japanesse Ditto's "A japanmesse Ditto has a 8x multiplier for the egg to have a shiny pokemon in it" 2nd egg i hatch I get a shiny Snivy w00t



Really? Source?
Where can ditto be caught in black/white? A friend of mine has a japanese game ..


you can get it in the Giant Chasm.

On March 19 2011 12:41 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2011 12:05 Dark-Storm wrote:
I'll stick with my Dragon Dance Adament Tyranitar for my Sweeper


You use Tyranitar to sweep?

When do you actually get a chance to ever setup? Tyranitar gets wasted by every fighting move in the game, of which there are MANY.


Yeah, it's pretty ridiculous the amount of Close Combats and Focus Blasts on teams these days.
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