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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
March 16 2011 02:26 GMT
#1061
On March 16 2011 11:13 Skullflower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 09:02 NuKedUFirst wrote:
On March 16 2011 08:51 adeezy wrote:
Pokerus and macho brace makes it 6x speed so that's another way to make it easy

isn't it x2 from pkrs and x2 from power item / macho brace? I always thought if a pokemon usually give 1 ev, it'd give 1x2x2 = 4 EV? Or am I completely off?


Y = EVs gained from Pokemon

With no item or Pokerus = y
With Macho Brace = y • 2
With Macho Brace & Pokerus = y • 4
With Power Item = y + 4
With Power Item & Pokerus = (y + 4) • 2

Yep. Something that would normally give 1 EV gives 10 EVs with power item + pkrs, 2 -> 12, 3 -> 14.
:)
Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
March 16 2011 02:32 GMT
#1062
On March 16 2011 11:26 Ferrose wrote:
How does Ghetsis have a level 54 Hydreigon? Fucking hacker.

you can catch one in the first floor of the dragon tower.
If you want to help me out... http://signup.leagueoflegends.com/?ref=4b82744b816d3
Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
March 16 2011 02:48 GMT
#1063
so as a bug catcher... everything is terrifying... I was fighting a level 13 tynpole with my lvl 16 bug pokemon and i was switching and using stat modifying stats like crazy in order to stay alive from... one of the weakest pokemon in the game, this is awesome .
If you want to help me out... http://signup.leagueoflegends.com/?ref=4b82744b816d3
Deltablazy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada580 Posts
March 16 2011 03:13 GMT
#1064
Is anyone working on completing the pokedex already? I know I am and I'm pretty much done, only missing the White exclusive pokemon. Anyone willing to help?
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
March 16 2011 03:41 GMT
#1065
On March 16 2011 12:13 Deltablazy wrote:
Is anyone working on completing the pokedex already? I know I am and I'm pretty much done, only missing the White exclusive pokemon. Anyone willing to help?

A friend of mine has 642 seen 641 caught.
:)
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
March 16 2011 04:26 GMT
#1066
On March 16 2011 10:52 Insanious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 10:45 Ferrose wrote:
Wow, it took just one Dusk Ball to catch Zekrom when it was at like 2% health, with no status effects >.>

has catch rate of 45... unlike the normal 3 of most legendaries.

- - - -

Now on a side note, I bought pokemon black so I can fool around on it while keeping everything good on pokemon white.

Right now I'm playing as a bug catcher, just sucks that I need to get to 2nd gym before I can catch a bug type pokemon... but ya.

After this going to play though as:

- (poke enthusiast) Only 1 pokemon + flying mule
- (go go ratata) Catch something before 1st gym and treat as my starter
- (poke fanatic) catch 6 of the same pokemon and use only them all game, never having a 5 lvl difference between any two of them
- (naturalpath) No potions
- (meiser) never buy anything in store

dunno in what order though...


Do them all at once (excluding poke enthusiast)
6 patrats, not potions, never buy anything in store
Jaedong :3
DeadZone
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada28 Posts
March 16 2011 05:01 GMT
#1067
I also have several pokemon stored in my box with Pokerus if anyone is willing to trade for them. I also have white version and all the white specific pokemon. (Gen 5, as im just at the E4 for the first time).

Message me if willing to trade, battle, etc. Im looking for shiny's or fully evolved strong pokemon at a high level. If anyone wants to battle, I have a full party at level 50 currently.
Clan izHere www.izhere.webs.com
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
March 16 2011 06:14 GMT
#1068
Just beat the second round of Elite Four... Alder is a freaking joke lol. Accelgor bug buzzed my Volcarona and did 0 damage, and I took Rough Skin damage from Druddigon... didn't take any other damage all battle. Way to use weak shitty Pokemon, champion.

All that's left now is Cynthia and that Morimoto guy, although the latter is also really easy.
ballasdontcry
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada595 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 15:18:56
March 16 2011 14:44 GMT
#1069
On March 14 2011 13:07 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2011 11:25 synapse wrote:
On March 14 2011 11:17 YoonHo wrote:
Hmm... don't know where else to ask this so~

Is there a guide or a thread on another forum on how to create a legal/legit pokemon through pokesav? Tried myself for a few hours but ended up getting a headache.. (hex value/PID/IV/Nature/ability etc.)

It's so confusing! Someone willing to help me out? Thanks.

Anything created by pokesav is considered "not legit." Between the "not legit," you have "possible" and "impossible" though.

Also, the elemental monkey traded for the mouse guy is a bad trade if you consider the rarity... minccino or w/e can be found very easily in the wild later on while the monkeys are EXTREMELY hard to find.


There are enough PID/IV generators so that this process should be a snap. I don't know of course if the pseudo RNG on Pokemon changed since DPPt, but assuming they are the same, then you can just match PID with the IV/Gender/Ability/Nature combination and you should be set.

But note that this only matters for very certain types of Pokemon -- ie, Pokemon that are caught in the wild. Pokemon that are bred can have PID and IVs that don't match, for example, since Breeding passes down IVs that can distort it.

Further more there are "junk bits" that Pokesav clears out, so you can *sometimes* tell if the Pokemon is legit by looking at the junk bits. Dunno if this system has ever been checked researched but IIRC this is one thing Pokesav does that makes it noticeable.

Also note that any Wondercard/Event Pokemon with standard PID/IV combinations are probably also illegal, since iirc Wondercard uses its own PID/IV algorithm, dunno if that has been researched over all. Same thing with certain event GBA pokemon, but i guess no one cares about that anymore since they're available over DS anyway.

But yeah "not legit" and "legit" is a very very blurry line since people do questionable shit to generate perfect Pokemon anyway (RNG abuse, for example), so in the end it doesn't matter that much. I don't know (nor do I care) if Nintendo has any more hack checks built in but in general if you know what you're doing you can generate perfect hacks quite easily

I think there's been enough confirmation that in Gen V, PID is no longer tied to anything else except the gender and ability of the pokemon. so IVs, nature etc... those can all be changed independent of the PID - something to do with the RNG being weakly correlated with those variables, I'm not too sure as I'm no expert on the subject myself. of course you can change all the IV #'s to 31, but some natures only allow for a certain ceiling in the IV.

I think as long as you're not doing anything like that, as in outside the realm of possibility, it's fine... like not creating pokemon that has stats that it cannot have via catching or breeding, movesets that are impossible for a pokemon to learn etc. some people would rather spend time on formulating a good team that meshes rather than spend hours trying to breed the perfect IV set or EV train everything, just to find out that their strat is outdated for the current metagame.

that said, I'm still doing the egg breeding stuff lol...
adeezy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1428 Posts
March 16 2011 22:38 GMT
#1070
PID in general wasn't even checked in actual nintendo events. They pretty much only checked the EVs, moves, and abilities. But now that PID is only to ability, it makes things very easy to hack, which is a bad thing for people who hate hackers. lol
I asked my friend how the ratio at a party was, he replied. "Let's just say for every guy there was two dudes."
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
March 16 2011 22:51 GMT
#1071
On March 16 2011 15:14 Kyuukyuu wrote:
Just beat the second round of Elite Four... Alder is a freaking joke lol. Accelgor bug buzzed my Volcarona and did 0 damage, and I took Rough Skin damage from Druddigon... didn't take any other damage all battle. Way to use weak shitty Pokemon, champion.

All that's left now is Cynthia and that Morimoto guy, although the latter is also really easy.


I have a team of level 58s and I only got 0-3'd by cynthia with no items, though I admit I had to predict her smoking hot ass a lot
Together but separate, like oatmeal
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
March 16 2011 23:12 GMT
#1072
On March 16 2011 10:49 ScarletKnight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 10:45 Ferrose wrote:
Wow, it took just one Dusk Ball to catch Zekrom when it was at like 2% health, with no status effects >.>


It has a 45 catch rating, which is incredibly high. The same as Dialga and Palkia from DPPt

Most Legendaries (the trios, Kyurem, any legendary not integral to the story) have a catch rate of 3.

Hell the Pseudo-Legendaries in this game (Metagross, Tyranitar, Dragonite, Milotic) all have catch ratings of 3.

Victini, too. Fucking victini and its cach rate of 3 at a point in the game when you only have Great Balls and limited status effects at your disposal. I guess if you actually leveled a patrat you'd have hypnosis, but I didn't.

Add the fact that I was trying for a modest or timid Victini and had to re-catch a whole bunch of times. Took me all day Couple times I ran entirely out of pokeballs!
adeezy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1428 Posts
March 16 2011 23:27 GMT
#1073
I created a dummy game in which I sent myself masterballs... let's just say it took a long time to get one (50 trades lol). I'm gonna have to do it again for a few of the other legendaries so I can get other good natured legendaries
I asked my friend how the ratio at a party was, he replied. "Let's just say for every guy there was two dudes."
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
March 16 2011 23:32 GMT
#1074
On March 17 2011 07:51 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 15:14 Kyuukyuu wrote:
Just beat the second round of Elite Four... Alder is a freaking joke lol. Accelgor bug buzzed my Volcarona and did 0 damage, and I took Rough Skin damage from Druddigon... didn't take any other damage all battle. Way to use weak shitty Pokemon, champion.

All that's left now is Cynthia and that Morimoto guy, although the latter is also really easy.


I have a team of level 58s and I only got 0-3'd by cynthia with no items, though I admit I had to predict her smoking hot ass a lot


Basically, if you have Volcarona you can 6-0 Alder and Cynthia since they both lead with pokes that have no offensive power at all so you can just +6 quiver dance if you're having problems . Although Spiritomb does tend to spam Double Team a lot so that gets annoying.
adeezy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1428 Posts
March 16 2011 23:36 GMT
#1075
Dang it i was excited to see volcarona can learn a lightning move, (a fire pokemon knowing a lightning move?? sweet right?)

But it's a physical attack and has recoil =(
I asked my friend how the ratio at a party was, he replied. "Let's just say for every guy there was two dudes."
jester-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada547 Posts
March 16 2011 23:59 GMT
#1076
I caught Kyurem on the 3rd ultra ball with no status effects. Was kinda gay considering I had a defensive item, used X-def, etc on Zekrom preparing to toss like 40 balls out before I caught him. Actually caught him up the turn after using an x-def.

I went in there with like 90 ultra balls and 80 hyper potions expecting a long, arduous process because one of the other guys took like 35 min to catch (one of the other 3 legendary pokemon).
Arise, chicken sandwich.
Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
March 17 2011 00:09 GMT
#1077
On March 17 2011 08:59 jester- wrote:
I caught Kyurem on the 3rd ultra ball with no status effects. Was kinda gay considering I had a defensive item, used X-def, etc on Zekrom preparing to toss like 40 balls out before I caught him. Actually caught him up the turn after using an x-def.

I went in there with like 90 ultra balls and 80 hyper potions expecting a long, arduous process because one of the other guys took like 35 min to catch (one of the other 3 legendary pokemon).

well had a catch rate of 3... so you're just lucky... don't complain .
If you want to help me out... http://signup.leagueoflegends.com/?ref=4b82744b816d3
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-17 00:48:25
March 17 2011 00:47 GMT
#1078
On March 17 2011 08:36 adeezy wrote:
Dang it i was excited to see volcarona can learn a lightning move, (a fire pokemon knowing a lightning move?? sweet right?)

But it's a physical attack and has recoil =(


Why would you teach Volcarona a lightning move?

Quiver Dance/Fire Blast/Bug Buzz/HP Ground...or HP Ice.... or if running a sun team.. Morning Sun.

With a Life Orb you have an awesome sweeper.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Baltor
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States171 Posts
March 17 2011 00:50 GMT
#1079
I've had the game since it came out, and I'm loving it.

My Friend Code is:

Sayo: 0303 9077 6143
Mephiztopheles1
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1124 Posts
March 17 2011 00:54 GMT
#1080
On March 17 2011 08:59 jester- wrote:
I caught Kyurem on the 3rd ultra ball with no status effects. Was kinda gay considering I had a defensive item, used X-def, etc on Zekrom preparing to toss like 40 balls out before I caught him. Actually caught him up the turn after using an x-def.

I went in there with like 90 ultra balls and 80 hyper potions expecting a long, arduous process because one of the other guys took like 35 min to catch (one of the other 3 legendary pokemon).

Too bad Kyurem is just a subpar Palkia It's the first master of a mascot trio that sucks so much. I'm quite pissed about that, it has great movepool but crappy stat distribution.
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