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On March 14 2011 11:17 YoonHo wrote:
Hmm... don't know where else to ask this so~
Is there a guide or a thread on another forum on how to create a legal/legit pokemon through pokesav? Tried myself for a few hours but ended up getting a headache.. (hex value/PID/IV/Nature/ability etc.)
It's so confusing! Someone willing to help me out? Thanks.
Anything created by pokesav is considered "not legit." Between the "not legit," you have "possible" and "impossible" though.
Also, the elemental monkey traded for the mouse guy is a bad trade if you consider the rarity... minccino or w/e can be found very easily in the wild later on while the monkeys are EXTREMELY hard to find.
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so just awesome for me... I just bred a 31/31/31/X/31/31 duskull... but with gen 5 came Cofagrigus... guess its a reason for me to make a ghost team...
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On March 14 2011 11:25 synapse wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2011 11:17 YoonHo wrote:
Hmm... don't know where else to ask this so~
Is there a guide or a thread on another forum on how to create a legal/legit pokemon through pokesav? Tried myself for a few hours but ended up getting a headache.. (hex value/PID/IV/Nature/ability etc.)
It's so confusing! Someone willing to help me out? Thanks. Anything created by pokesav is considered "not legit." Between the "not legit," you have "possible" and "impossible" though. Also, the elemental monkey traded for the mouse guy is a bad trade if you consider the rarity... minccino or w/e can be found very easily in the wild later on while the monkeys are EXTREMELY hard to find.
Ah, I see. Can you tell me how I can make it "possible"? :O
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On March 14 2011 11:36 YoonHo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2011 11:25 synapse wrote:On March 14 2011 11:17 YoonHo wrote:
Hmm... don't know where else to ask this so~
Is there a guide or a thread on another forum on how to create a legal/legit pokemon through pokesav? Tried myself for a few hours but ended up getting a headache.. (hex value/PID/IV/Nature/ability etc.)
It's so confusing! Someone willing to help me out? Thanks. Anything created by pokesav is considered "not legit." Between the "not legit," you have "possible" and "impossible" though. Also, the elemental monkey traded for the mouse guy is a bad trade if you consider the rarity... minccino or w/e can be found very easily in the wild later on while the monkeys are EXTREMELY hard to find. Ah, I see. Can you tell me how I can make it "possible"? :O
why not just either:
1) breed them on your own time with hard work
or
2) just use pokemon online... gives you the perfect pokes for online battles instantly.
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On March 14 2011 11:39 Insanious wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2011 11:36 YoonHo wrote:On March 14 2011 11:25 synapse wrote:On March 14 2011 11:17 YoonHo wrote:
Hmm... don't know where else to ask this so~
Is there a guide or a thread on another forum on how to create a legal/legit pokemon through pokesav? Tried myself for a few hours but ended up getting a headache.. (hex value/PID/IV/Nature/ability etc.)
It's so confusing! Someone willing to help me out? Thanks. Anything created by pokesav is considered "not legit." Between the "not legit," you have "possible" and "impossible" though. Also, the elemental monkey traded for the mouse guy is a bad trade if you consider the rarity... minccino or w/e can be found very easily in the wild later on while the monkeys are EXTREMELY hard to find. Ah, I see. Can you tell me how I can make it "possible"? :O why not just either: 1) breed them on your own time with hard work or 2) just use pokemon online... gives you the perfect pokes for online battles instantly.
It's because I'm lazy haha. I did invest a considerable portion of the day researching on my own. This was more like a last cry for help. Oh well, I'll try to figure it out before I go to sleep. If I can't then I'll give up and do it the hard, honest way.
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He wants to bash noobs with imperfect pokes with his hacked perfect pokes =/
mehh hackers will always exist 
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That's why we have Pokemon Online. Then everyone has hacked Pokes
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On March 14 2011 11:49 Ferrose wrote:That's why we have Pokemon Online. Then everyone has hacked Pokes
This is what I meant... why not just run Pokemon Online, everyone has perfect pokes, and there's even a ladder at Smogon University...
with this hacked shit you are litterally just cheating... its like map hacking in SC. Just play on Pokemon Online, or do it the hard way like everyone else.
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On March 14 2011 11:35 Insanious wrote:
so just awesome for me... I just bred a 31/31/31/X/31/31 duskull... but with gen 5 came Cofagrigus... guess its a reason for me to make a ghost team...
Eh, Dusclops pretty decent now with that eviolite or whatever. Movepool sucks ass though.
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On March 14 2011 12:06 Kyuukyuu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2011 11:35 Insanious wrote:
so just awesome for me... I just bred a 31/31/31/X/31/31 duskull... but with gen 5 came Cofagrigus... guess its a reason for me to make a ghost team... Eh, Dusclops pretty decent now with that eviolite or whatever. Movepool sucks ass though.
Eviolite chansey > blissey T.T
I once faced a team on Pokemon Online that had both chansey AND blissey (along with a reuniclus and latios and ditto)... can't get more homo than that lol...
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I wonder if I could manage a good set for Whirlipede with Eviolite. It has like 99 defenses and 47(?) speed, but Scolipede has like 112 speed, 50 something defenses, and 90 Attack.
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On March 14 2011 12:06 Kyuukyuu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2011 11:35 Insanious wrote:
so just awesome for me... I just bred a 31/31/31/X/31/31 duskull... but with gen 5 came Cofagrigus... guess its a reason for me to make a ghost team... Eh, Dusclops pretty decent now with that eviolite or whatever. Movepool sucks ass though.
its less move pool, and more its terrible attack stat compared to dusknoir. Can't use a lot of the damage moves since well... dusknoir's attacks don't hit for a tonne, but dusclops' hit for even less.
Dusclops only really works in a trickroom team... and then you want 0 EVs in speed and a negative speed nature, not 31 speed EVs and a positive speed nature.
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On March 14 2011 12:35 Ferrose wrote:
I wonder if I could manage a good set for Whirlipede with Eviolite. It has like 99 defenses and 47(?) speed, but Scolipede has like 112 speed, 50 something defenses, and 90 Attack.
Eviolite boosts only defenses, and whirlipede has TERRIBLE defensive typing being weak to fire, flying, and rock.
This especially means you cannot switch whirlipede into steath rocks, which really hurts it as a wall.
As well, 99 defenses turns into ~150, where dusclops' turns into ~200 and has a better typing. Whirlipede just doesn't work so well.
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On March 14 2011 11:25 synapse wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2011 11:17 YoonHo wrote:
Hmm... don't know where else to ask this so~
Is there a guide or a thread on another forum on how to create a legal/legit pokemon through pokesav? Tried myself for a few hours but ended up getting a headache.. (hex value/PID/IV/Nature/ability etc.)
It's so confusing! Someone willing to help me out? Thanks. Anything created by pokesav is considered "not legit." Between the "not legit," you have "possible" and "impossible" though. Also, the elemental monkey traded for the mouse guy is a bad trade if you consider the rarity... minccino or w/e can be found very easily in the wild later on while the monkeys are EXTREMELY hard to find.
There are enough PID/IV generators so that this process should be a snap. I don't know of course if the pseudo RNG on Pokemon changed since DPPt, but assuming they are the same, then you can just match PID with the IV/Gender/Ability/Nature combination and you should be set.
But note that this only matters for very certain types of Pokemon -- ie, Pokemon that are caught in the wild. Pokemon that are bred can have PID and IVs that don't match, for example, since Breeding passes down IVs that can distort it.
Further more there are "junk bits" that Pokesav clears out, so you can *sometimes* tell if the Pokemon is legit by looking at the junk bits. Dunno if this system has ever been checked researched but IIRC this is one thing Pokesav does that makes it noticeable.
Also note that any Wondercard/Event Pokemon with standard PID/IV combinations are probably also illegal, since iirc Wondercard uses its own PID/IV algorithm, dunno if that has been researched over all. Same thing with certain event GBA pokemon, but i guess no one cares about that anymore since they're available over DS anyway.
But yeah "not legit" and "legit" is a very very blurry line since people do questionable shit to generate perfect Pokemon anyway (RNG abuse, for example), so in the end it doesn't matter that much. I don't know (nor do I care) if Nintendo has any more hack checks built in but in general if you know what you're doing you can generate perfect hacks quite easily
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what does everybody think of this team that i think i am about to set up?
Krookodile
Emboar
Cofagrigus
Ferrothorn
Leavanny/ lilligant
Reuniclus
i have no idea about it but they look pretty sweet. my biggest concern is only having one special user realy, besides my pharoah
i think the lilligant over leavanny woud solve my problems?
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anyone figured out why randomly when you throw a pokeball, sometimes it will make a weird animation, shake once, and then autocatch it?
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On March 14 2011 13:17 Juddas wrote:
what does everybody think of this team that i think i am about to set up?
Krookodile
Emboar
Cofagrigus
Ferrothorn
Leavanny/ lilligant
Reuniclus
i have no idea about it but they look pretty sweet. my biggest concern is only having one special user realy, besides my pharoah
i think the lilligant over leavanny woud solve my problems?
Eh, if it's an in-game team don't bother training Ferrothorn and Cofagrigus, you won't really need any defensive capability since you can just OHKO everything with a team full of sweepers.
Leavanny/Lilligant are both mediocre and you definitely don't need redundant Grass types. Get electric imo (Galvantula).
On March 14 2011 13:05 Insanious wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2011 12:06 Kyuukyuu wrote:On March 14 2011 11:35 Insanious wrote:
so just awesome for me... I just bred a 31/31/31/X/31/31 duskull... but with gen 5 came Cofagrigus... guess its a reason for me to make a ghost team... Eh, Dusclops pretty decent now with that eviolite or whatever. Movepool sucks ass though. its less move pool, and more its terrible attack stat compared to dusknoir. Can't use a lot of the damage moves since well... dusknoir's attacks don't hit for a tonne, but dusclops' hit for even less. Dusclops only really works in a trickroom team... and then you want 0 EVs in speed and a negative speed nature, not 31 speed EVs and a positive speed nature.
40 base HP Pain Splits practically uber material!
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Am I able to trade over all my IV trained/bred pokemon from SoulSilver to my new White? Or are their values gonna be adjusted when traded?
Also, is it even worth it to do so? Are there significant stat differences in W/B?
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On March 14 2011 13:17 Brees wrote:
anyone figured out why randomly when you throw a pokeball, sometimes it will make a weird animation, shake once, and then autocatch it?
There's a new system called a "critical catch" in Black/White which dramatically improves catch rate. This must be what happened for you.
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+ Show Spoiler +On March 14 2011 13:28 Kyuukyuu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2011 13:17 Juddas wrote:
what does everybody think of this team that i think i am about to set up?
Krookodile
Emboar
Cofagrigus
Ferrothorn
Leavanny/ lilligant
Reuniclus
i have no idea about it but they look pretty sweet. my biggest concern is only having one special user realy, besides my pharoah
i think the lilligant over leavanny woud solve my problems? Eh, if it's an in-game team don't bother training Ferrothorn and Cofagrigus, you won't really need any defensive capability since you can just OHKO everything with a team full of sweepers. Leavanny/Lilligant are both mediocre and you definitely don't need redundant Grass types. Get electric imo (Galvantula). Show nested quote +On March 14 2011 13:05 Insanious wrote:On March 14 2011 12:06 Kyuukyuu wrote:On March 14 2011 11:35 Insanious wrote:
so just awesome for me... I just bred a 31/31/31/X/31/31 duskull... but with gen 5 came Cofagrigus... guess its a reason for me to make a ghost team... Eh, Dusclops pretty decent now with that eviolite or whatever. Movepool sucks ass though. its less move pool, and more its terrible attack stat compared to dusknoir. Can't use a lot of the damage moves since well... dusknoir's attacks don't hit for a tonne, but dusclops' hit for even less. Dusclops only really works in a trickroom team... and then you want 0 EVs in speed and a negative speed nature, not 31 speed EVs and a positive speed nature. 40 base HP Pain Splits practically uber material!
what is a good alternative to those two then?
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