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Juddas
Profile Joined January 2011
768 Posts
March 10 2011 02:55 GMT
#681
@above why dont you read my posts?! i was originally telling him for single player that i usually drop my starter at level 50ish. then you start flaming me telling me i dont know anything about multiplayer balh blah. i replied with i have some minor experience. i never said i wanted to or thought i could last 5 minutes at smogon or something because i know i wont. believe me. im not hiding anything at all.

now off topic
what is the deal with archeops? how can you use this at all with the defeatist ability. it would be pretty nice besides that. is there something i dont know?
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
March 10 2011 02:58 GMT
#682
On March 10 2011 11:55 Juddas wrote:
@above why dont you read my posts?! i was originally telling him for single player that i usually drop my starter at level 50ish. then you start flaming me telling me i dont know anything about multiplayer balh blah. i replied with i have some minor experience. i never said i wanted to or thought i could last 5 minutes at smogon or something because i know i wont. believe me. im not hiding anything at all.

now off topic
what is the deal with archeops? how can you use this at all with the defeatist ability. it would be pretty nice besides that. is there something i dont know?


A sweeper basicly. My un EV'd level 49 Archeops has 188 attack, 66 defense 122 special attach 72 Special defense and 121 speed un ev trained lonely natured. He is really fast and hits like a truck
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
March 10 2011 03:00 GMT
#683
All right, trying to make a team in PO. I'm gonna try to use Excadrill and Galvantula as my sweepers. Any suggestions for the other four Pokemon?
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
March 10 2011 03:00 GMT
#684
@archeops:

Single player: Just don't let it get hit... look at it's move pool, attack stat, and speed stat... archeops carries me through single player, i just one hit all pokemon.

Multiplayer: I can only think of three ways to use it:

1) Lead... just start sweeping from the word go with stone edge, EQ, acrobatics, u-turn
2) Revenge kill (same kind of move set)
3) In conjunction with cofagrigus's ability... you let cofagrigus get hit by a physical move, then hit it with archeops. Archeops then loses the defeatest trait and BOOM, powerful sweeper.

^^^ most likely will be BL or UU
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SirKibbleX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States479 Posts
March 10 2011 03:02 GMT
#685
On March 10 2011 10:15 Juddas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 09:57 dgReborn wrote:
it's min maxing jester. If you don't get it don't worry, a good 90% of the playerbase for pokemon don't.

I'm honestly regretting taking Tepig. There are a lot of good fire alternatives, Volcarona stands out the most in my book, but not that many great grass alts. Serperior is prolly the best grass type in this set excluding legendarys...


pssh i have never played a pokemon game where i kept the starter more than 7ish gym badges.
they arent ever very good, the ability sucks, and i dont want to constantly reset to get a good nature and its not worth it to try to get a female to breed and then start over with. the starters serve their purpose as an early game pokemon- usually to about 50 i drop them. why do you need a grass type though? i have never found myself ever needing a grass type, except for misty in red blue because her starmie is OP lol, but even then i would just grab an oddish and train it for about 5 minutes and then destroy her.


When you say "they aren't ever good, and their abilities suck." You make us have to correct the fact that you're completely wrong. In every generation there has been at least one starter that is at least BL and at least one that is a complete trap/'wrong' choice. Whether or not that is the case is the question at hand.
Praemonitus, Praemunitus.
Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
March 10 2011 03:05 GMT
#686
So has anyone found a good place to train your pokes from:

"zomg elite 4 pwn me"

to

"elite 4 = best way to lvl pokes ever"
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Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 03:07:37
March 10 2011 03:06 GMT
#687
On March 10 2011 11:55 Juddas wrote:
@above why dont you read my posts?! i was originally telling him for single player that i usually drop my starter at level 50ish. then you start flaming me telling me i dont know anything about multiplayer balh blah. i replied with i have some minor experience. i never said i wanted to or thought i could last 5 minutes at smogon or something because i know i wont. believe me. im not hiding anything at all.

now off topic
what is the deal with archeops? how can you use this at all with the defeatist ability. it would be pretty nice besides that. is there something i dont know?


Because in single player it doesn't matter what you do.

When you talk about Pokemon, it's only about multiplayer, because ANYTHING GOES IN SINGLE PLAYER. It's like Starcraft. Do you talk about how you're awesome at beating multiplayer after you mass battlecruisers off two base in singles to stomp the computer? It means nothing!

Also, you said
and to all of the flamers, i played on a team for a couple of months and we played competitively and were high tier soo... i think i know what im talking about.


Stating you had some sort of experience. And stating that your experience was valid, which clearly it wasn't. And team + competition implies multiplayer. Because you know, you can't have a single player Pokemon competition?

I'll stop now.

+ Show Spoiler +
Also, I don't read block comments with no formatting, no punctuation, no grammar and no spell checking, since it's obvious you haven't put a lot of thought or effort in your posts or ideas, so I'll treat it as such and ignore it (mostly).
There is no one like you in the universe.
Juddas
Profile Joined January 2011
768 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 03:18:45
March 10 2011 03:14 GMT
#688
actually, i almost always choose the "trap" on the second go around because its more fun that way imo

i do recant my statement of they arent ever good. that is a bit too extreme.
but honestly, i liked all of the red blue starters, i hated all the ruby etc, feraligatr is ok in hgss but i really didnt like him at all in gold silver because of the lack of icefang and i would just replace him with gyrados typhlosion was ok too and i always needed a fire type so he actually stayed on my team the whole game but i didnt really like him. i thought torterra was a bamf and was usually my pick, infernape just never felt like enough and empoleon was sometimes a good enough tank for me for a while so it was also a big pick for me.

but in the end they all became obsolete when something better came along besides in red blue because those were just awesome. i wish gamefreak would put in a better grass btw. they are almost always the trap




+ Show Spoiler +
@above im done too because you are just stubborn as shit and i was talking about single player. you obviously are much more hardcore than me because i always refer to the single player in pokemon because that is more fun to me. it is actually the whole reason i buy the game. whenever i want to play something against other people, i turn to SC2. i normally do put more thought into my posts and i do regret that i have not in this thread.
ScarletKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States691 Posts
March 10 2011 03:18 GMT
#689
Hey is anyone willing to be trade partners? I want to evolve my Boldore into a Gigalith but need someone to trade back and forth with.

PM me if you can/want to. :D
Looks like I picked the wrong week the quit sniffing glue
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 03:21:59
March 10 2011 03:20 GMT
#690
Hope no one makes a sandstorm team...thats what I wanna make

ttar 4 lyfe....even though hes deteriorating...fuck them new pokemon T____T

edit: I would be willing to be trade partner. The OP needs to update and perhaps have a FC list :O
Jaedong :3
ScarletKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States691 Posts
March 10 2011 03:24 GMT
#691
On March 10 2011 12:20 ReketSomething wrote:
Hope no one makes a sandstorm team...thats what I wanna make

ttar 4 lyfe....even though hes deteriorating...fuck them new pokemon T____T

edit: I would be willing to be trade partner. The OP needs to update and perhaps have a FC list :O


Cool. PM me and we'll get it done. ^^
Looks like I picked the wrong week the quit sniffing glue
Pvvned
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States406 Posts
March 10 2011 03:25 GMT
#692
On March 10 2011 12:20 ReketSomething wrote:
Hope no one makes a sandstorm team...thats what I wanna make

ttar 4 lyfe....even though hes deteriorating...fuck them new pokemon T____T

edit: I would be willing to be trade partner. The OP needs to update and perhaps have a FC list :O

You're a bit late to the party. With the introduction of Excadrill and Landorus, sandstorm teams may see a lot of play.

Also, I can't update the OP since the edit button isn't physically there on the post anymore.
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Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
March 10 2011 03:25 GMT
#693
Sandstorm teams got a huge buff...

Gigalith (single type rock pokemon, with huge def, and a naturally large special def stat) Has huge attack, and a decent move pool. Under sand storm... it's special def goes up to 105... ya...

Carracosta: Water/Rock... wut wut wut, you mean a rock poke that isn't weak to water? I like... wait, it also cannot be killed in 1 turn or I can chose for it to take 25% less damage from super effective moves... and it has 133 def... and 95 Sdef under sand storm.

Archeops: I STUPIDLY powerful sweeper (move pool and 140 attack)... and wait, under sandstorm it gets 95 spef... damn...
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ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
March 10 2011 03:27 GMT
#694
On March 10 2011 12:25 Pvvned wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 12:20 ReketSomething wrote:
Hope no one makes a sandstorm team...thats what I wanna make

ttar 4 lyfe....even though hes deteriorating...fuck them new pokemon T____T

edit: I would be willing to be trade partner. The OP needs to update and perhaps have a FC list :O

You're a bit late to the party. With the introduction of Excadrill and Landorus, sandstorm teams may see a lot of play.

Also, I can't update the OP since the edit button isn't physically there on the post anymore.


Hmmm weird =/

I already had a sandstorm team from previous version...but yea
Jaedong :3
cosmicTrex
Profile Joined September 2010
United States24 Posts
March 10 2011 03:29 GMT
#695
To all those interested in seeing what people on Smogon are saying about the new Pokemon and the direction of the metagame, you should check out the forums for their Gen V article approval:

http://www.smogon.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=156

After reading through most of the ones (about new pokes only), it seems they think the new metagame is even more offensively favored. Specifically, the way ones team either USES or DEALS WITH the new Ground/Steel pokemon, Excadrill. That pokemon is such a beast (his base 88 speed doubles in a Sandstorm with the right ability). There are many other analyses there as well, though most aren't completed.

Personally, I'm digging the new Grass pokemon, Whimsicott. Her ability gives her non-damaging moves priority like quick attack (not to mention she has pretty damn good base speed on top of that). SubSeed, Stun Spore, etc.. (my only qualm is she does not get Sleep Powder, but that might be a good thing).
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
March 10 2011 03:43 GMT
#696
On March 10 2011 12:25 Pvvned wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 12:20 ReketSomething wrote:
Hope no one makes a sandstorm team...thats what I wanna make

ttar 4 lyfe....even though hes deteriorating...fuck them new pokemon T____T

edit: I would be willing to be trade partner. The OP needs to update and perhaps have a FC list :O

You're a bit late to the party. With the introduction of Excadrill and Landorus, sandstorm teams may see a lot of play.

Also, I can't update the OP since the edit button isn't physically there on the post anymore.

It should be there now.

If for some reason you still have a problem then PM whatever you want to add and I can edit the OP.
Moderator。◕‿◕。
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
March 10 2011 03:58 GMT
#697
Harem best zergling ever.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
adeezy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1428 Posts
March 10 2011 04:00 GMT
#698
Excadrill is an absolute beast. I need to cop a pokemon that does auto sandstorm
I asked my friend how the ratio at a party was, he replied. "Let's just say for every guy there was two dudes."
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 04:27:28
March 10 2011 04:26 GMT
#699
They should make a spinoff of this game's story. They could have a really awesome and dark story about an alternate ending or something where Team Plasma's plan succeeds.

+ Show Spoiler [plot] +
Think about it. In a world where having Pokemon is taboo and everyone accepts Team Plasma, the main character still has Pokemon and is part of some underground movement of people who still use Pokemon to free the Pokemon from Team Plasma. It'd be badass.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
March 10 2011 04:31 GMT
#700
I have a living pokedex of 485~ pokemon on Diamond. Just missing the few of the likes of Jirachi, Celebii, Lugia, Hooh, and the 3 4th gen event pokemon.

Considering whether I should get this or not. The pokemon seem... Not like pokemon when I was looking over the sprites on serebii.net
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