On February 22 2010 10:13 Draconizard wrote: Ugh, brings back memories of being swarmed by barbarians in Civ IV. Have to spend like half the early game spamming archers/axemen for defense just to keep them out. It doesn't help that the AI gets free units so it gets a huge leg up.
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Barbs in Civ are ezpz. You should check out mindworms in Alpha Centauri. They're ezpz early on, but lategame you can suffer what SMAC players call "worm rape", and that's no fun at all...
SMAC StrategyWiki: Too much mineral production leads to eco-damage, which in turn, leads to "worm rape" — something you don't want to see.
Edit: Why can't they release SMACII instead of CivV?
Check out this trailer made entirely of in-game movies (tech discoveries for the most part).
On March 06 2010 17:15 On_Slaught wrote: Just bought civ4. With all the good things I hear, and this being my first civ game, I have high expectations.
Hopefully the series is as great as everyone says (I also recently bought age of empires 3 which was pretty good).
Get the expansion Beyond the sword, she contains all upgrades in the others too, it makes the game much much better.
I personally like playing in the latest patch with the HephMod because it makes epic game much more realistic in terms of how long you will spend in each period of times
(sometimes you will have gunpowder before your first war is even over in this patch, it allows more smoth age transitions, and you can actually have a medieval war that over 200 years)
edit: lemme clarify, the good thing is that instead of your medieval war starting with spearman, going thro swordman and then knights and coming out of it with gunpowder lasting 1000 years and blazing thro like the only meaningfull event of the game, you can have a longer game with lots of long duration wars and whatnot.
Words don't describe how aggrivated I am with this (civ 4) fucking game.
I just bought civ4, and it's my first civ game. I decided to get it because civ5 is comming out and I want to figure out how the series works. I got the complete version (with all the expansions) and installed it.
It just throws you into a game with not a single fucking clue about what to do. I read the manual and what does it say? It says there is a tutorial option on the main screen but since this auto-matically installs the expansions "colonization" as well, it gives me that main screen and not the original civ 4 one which has NO FUCKING TUTORIAL OPTION when the manual says there should be one.
So what do I do? I uninstall just the colonization part and try playing the original by itself but of course you fucking can't. So now i'm stuck in a situation where I have absolutely NO clue how to play this game (and it's not very noob friendly at all) but no way to engage in a tutorial.
Really dissapointing and a pretty big oversight on their part if there really is no way to fix this (going to keep trying to find it).
If this keeps up, there is no way i'm getting civ5, even if it's hailed as the greatest game of all time.
Yeah the tutorial is really not helpful and encourages really bad strategies. In order to get good you're gonna have to poke around on Civfanatics for some time but it was just too much work for me. I guess I'll wait for Civ5 to come out and just start afresh.
the good thing about Civ4 though is that the gameplay really is good, beating the computer regularly at the highest difficulty level is extremely hard if not almost impossible.
I could never get into Civilizations, I played Alpha Centauri first, and it was always a lot better. Even civ 3 and 4 were considerably worse =/ I'd be pretty excited if they ever made an Alpha Centauri 2, but then again, they'd probably try to mainstream it and absolutely ruin it, so maybe it's better that they don't.
On March 08 2010 13:26 On_Slaught wrote: Words don't describe how aggrivated I am with this (civ 4) fucking game.
I just bought civ4, and it's my first civ game. I decided to get it because civ5 is comming out and I want to figure out how the series works. I got the complete version (with all the expansions) and installed it.
It just throws you into a game with not a single fucking clue about what to do. I read the manual and what does it say? It says there is a tutorial option on the main screen but since this auto-matically installs the expansions "colonization" as well, it gives me that main screen and not the original civ 4 one which has NO FUCKING TUTORIAL OPTION when the manual says there should be one.
So what do I do? I uninstall just the colonization part and try playing the original by itself but of course you fucking can't. So now i'm stuck in a situation where I have absolutely NO clue how to play this game (and it's not very noob friendly at all) but no way to engage in a tutorial.
Really dissapointing and a pretty big oversight on their part if there really is no way to fix this (going to keep trying to find it).
If this keeps up, there is no way i'm getting civ5, even if it's hailed as the greatest game of all time.
I started with Civ II multiplayer gold, maybe you should too.
Civ IV was just one of those games I surfed the internet to figure out how it worked. Once you actually learn how to play it, it becomes a lot more fun though :p
Just gotta put the effort into learning it since it has a bit of a high learning curve for those who have never touched a Civ game.
Yeah. Go to civfanatics site to grasp some basics and start playing on lower difficulty levels (so you don't get frustrated when you get destroyed too often).
Never let your army stats go lower than the Top-Middle of the bunch, especially if you're right near warmongers like Montezuma (Fuck I hate Montezuma). God aggressive civs will fuck the shit out of you T_T.
I normally don't make many diplomatic ties with civs close to me, unless it's like Isabella who becomes your attack dog later on.
ew yeah uninstall colonization, its such a worthless expansion, I dont know of like one real civ fan in my friends who actually plays the game with it, everyone uses BtS and some of them play with custom modpacks (perso I really like Rise of Mankind and Rhye's of Civilization, and also Total War although it's only compatible with Warlords and not BtS)
On March 08 2010 14:41 writer22816 wrote: Yeah the tutorial is really not helpful and encourages really bad strategies. In order to get good you're gonna have to poke around on Civfanatics for some time but it was just too much work for me. I guess I'll wait for Civ5 to come out and just start afresh.
the good thing about Civ4 though is that the gameplay really is good, beating the computer regularly at the highest difficulty level is extremely hard if not almost impossible.
I don't like higher difficulties in Civ. They just make the AI factions cheat too much. If you read the strategies in civfanatics for higher difficulties, it's almost always taking advantage of AI flaws in diplomacy, going on a warpath as AI combat is pretty weak, or using strategies that would be considered exploits in just about any other game.
I really dislike diplomacy in Civ 4, too. The AI asks the player for techs or to change religion/political system way too often. If you refuse, you get a diplomatic penalty. The AI never asks another AI faction those kinds of things that they know the other AI faction will refuse so all the penalties and the ridiculous requests really only apply to the player.
Yeah the game looks very nice compared to the other games. I like the extra detail they put into the trees and the ground in general. A HUGE improvement over Civ IV which was already pretty good!
Props if they make this less GPU intensive than I think it will be. (Though, FPS doesn't matter in Civ anyways...)
Under development for two and a half years, the Civilization franchise is getting much more than a face lift. In a recent interview with PC Gamer, Jon Shafer stated, “[Civilization V is] more of a revolution than a refinement.” Many features being redesigned (or removed) will have a profound effect on gameplay. Changes to the combat system, unit functionality, resource management, map tiles, terrain, cities & cultural borders, diplomacy, leadership bonuses, artificial intelligence, user interface, and modification support will vastly change the way we play this timeless classic.
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