On January 26 2010 19:29 writer22816 wrote:
This thread is a fun read especially since I'm trying to learn Civ4.

Anyone got any other good strategy guides for complete beginners besides the cottage one posted a few pages back?

http://www.civfanatics.com/

Falcynn

United States3597 Posts

January 28 2010 22:01 GMT

#182

Bumping this since it's almost on the second page. Also Fen PMd me already that he'd be working on it, so it hasn't been forgotten.

Fen

Australia1848 Posts

January 29 2010 13:19 GMT

#183

ugh guys, sorry im taking my sweet time with this, im really busy. Expect an update within the next 18 hours

Fen

Australia1848 Posts

January 30 2010 06:58 GMT

#184

Hey everyone, sorry bout taking soo long, my turn ended up falling on a national holiday and then all this crap happened and I couldn’t get a chance to do this. I’m also slightly out of the loop as I haven’t been keeping up with this thread as much as I should have, but anyways here we go.

SO, first thing I do is set our capital to build Notre dame. This is a great wonder, and with it requiring only 10 moves to complete, we might as well make a run at it, if we fail, the gold can just be used to pump into research anyway.

The next few moves are pretty boring, I hunt a few barbarians, start building some roads and cottages, and explore a bit of the water with our boats.

Until…..

We meet this dude… and the prick is ahead of us in score

Then we get a challenge that I forgot to take a screenshot of. Some gladiator has been killing stuff and has earned a reputation, so we get a choice of 26 insta-gold for cashing in on his success, or 13 insta-gold and +2 culture for the city per turn for rigging his fights and matching up against sissies. I figure 13 gold is worth bugger all, the culture may become handy later with all the culture bonuses you get, so might as well go culture just in case.

Next on the list to be discovered, Hannibal… yay

So turn 284 and we have discovered paper, meaning we can trade maps, meaning it’s about time we get a good view of this world.

70 gold is worth the intel, so I pay up.

Next on the list…

Then lucky us, we are the first to circumnavigate the world. This is awesome as naval is definitely going to be a big part of this game later on.

Turn 285 and mansa munsa beats us to Notre damn by 4 moves… Asshole

Victoria

Here was an interesting decision. On the one hand, we can get theology, but to do so, we have to give up optics. I end up saying no because theology is a pretty worthless tech while optics is a big bonus to this guy.

Turn 295, and the discovery of the printing press pushes us into the renaissance era. Printing press is a great tech because we have lots of villages and towns, so our research should benefit from a big boom.

So Turn 301, I finish up my turn with the knowledge that we are pathetic… yay.

Apart from discovering the rest of the world, not a whole lot really happened in my turn. I settled about 4 new cities and discovered paper and the printing press. I’ve gone for astronomy next as its time we get a good naval force going. With the circumnavigation bonus, we will be great at intercepting anything that comes our way and will be faster at re-enforcing when the eventual invasion of the other continent occurs. War will occur also, as the AI are pretty pissed off at me for not bowing to their demands of techs and stuff, but we are in a good position to take out this game comfortably.

So I wish the next person good luck

EDIT: Woops should probs put the save file as well
http://www.2shared.com/file/10998663/b9251333/TLgame.html

Manit0u

Poland17183 Posts

January 30 2010 07:34 GMT

#185

Damn, if only we would be on the bigger continent instead of the small one...
I lost a game not long ago because I was on a smaller one and aiming for a space race, suddenly the biggest guy on the other continent declares war on everyone there, wins and gets a domination victory

Luddite

United States2315 Posts

January 30 2010 09:24 GMT

#186

On January 30 2010 16:34 Manit0u wrote:
Damn, if only we would be on the bigger continent instead of the small one...
I lost a game not long ago because I was on a smaller one and aiming for a space race, suddenly the biggest guy on the other continent declares war on everyone there, wins and gets a domination victory

really? that's unusual. I don't think I've ever seen an AI get a domination victory. Although, admittedly i usually give up if it seems like I'm hopelessly behind.

Manit0u

Poland17183 Posts

January 30 2010 09:32 GMT

#187

Well, it was a first time for me too. Came as a rather unpleasant and frustrating surprise when I was like 5 turns away from launching my ship

And I wasn't all that much behind seeing as I had my mechanized infantry to counter any cavalry they sent at me (was so lol when shaka declared war on me and tried to go with caravels vs destroyers and cavalry against my mech infantry).

Mystlord

United States10264 Posts

January 30 2010 18:56 GMT

#188

Wow really? I've never seen an AI get a domination victory. That's pretty funny actually

As for our game, I get the feeling that we're expanding far too fast for our own good. And losing Notre Dame was not cool

prOxi.Beater

Denmark626 Posts

February 03 2010 02:59 GMT

#189

Losing Notre Dame is sad indeed. I really think we need to make some trades to catch up in tech. Elisabeth is willing to make a pretty good deal for almost all of her techs for one of ours.

Biochemist

United States1008 Posts

February 03 2010 03:31 GMT

#190

They're only going to hate us more as time goes on (religious difference), we should really make whatever tech trades we have to to catch up, even if it involves giving them all optics etc. They'll get it before long anyway, and giving them all optics (one tech for each of them) will get us quite a few techs and save us many many turns of research. Next, we have a larger land mass and with a continued focus on economy should be able to cruise into a significant lead.

The only thing that will be able to stand up to us after that will be if one of them vassalizes the others... and if that happens we can just beat them to ICBMs.

Manit0u

Poland17183 Posts

February 03 2010 08:38 GMT

#191

Or we could just opt for a space race. Although I don't think it's possible to get the necessary tech lead at this stage (a bit too late to beeline important stuff).

Fen

Australia1848 Posts

February 03 2010 09:26 GMT

#192

Just be careful when tech trading that you are actually trading for something that is worth trading for. Some techs are a lot better than others and some techs are a waste of time unless you want to go for a culture victory or something. If you just trade stuff because you dont have it, you end up giving the computer an advantage by giving away a strong tech for weak ones

Lachrymose

Australia1928 Posts

February 05 2010 16:01 GMT

#193

hmm, what's happening?

prOxi.Beater

Denmark626 Posts

February 06 2010 06:01 GMT

#194

Nothing apparently. Get on it Fatmatt2000!

craz3d

Bulgaria856 Posts

February 07 2010 03:57 GMT

#195

Why not go for space race or cultural?

Fen

Australia1848 Posts

February 07 2010 04:20 GMT

#196

On February 07 2010 12:57 craz3d wrote:
Why not go for space race or cultural?

From this point, cultural would be extremely difficult. You have to commit to it early in the game to get the right techs and wonders. Space is possible, but it would be pretty long and boring as avoiding war is very easy when the computer is soo far away from us.

Fen

Australia1848 Posts

February 07 2010 04:24 GMT

#197

Anyways this game is dieing pretty fast. I know I took a long time with my turn, but itst been over a week now since anything has happened.

Here is the list of people

List of Players
~~prOxi.Beater~~
~~Fen~~
Fatmatt2000
Thratur
noddyz
deconduo
Biochemist
duckett
nttea
Mystlord
Manit0u

If Fatmatt2000 hasnt contacted anyone with a good enough reason, I think we should move on and remove him from the list.

Poll: Skip Fatmatt2000?
(Vote): Skip him
(Vote): Wait for him

prOxi.Beater

Denmark626 Posts

February 07 2010 06:26 GMT

#198

Skip him, let's keep going

Manit0u

Poland17183 Posts

February 07 2010 07:28 GMT

#199

Can't help it but I think there's maybe 5 of us left still interested in this...
And yeah, skip him. And anyone else who fails to do his thing within 3 day span imo.

Fen

Australia1848 Posts

February 07 2010 07:54 GMT

#200

Ok, looks like the majority want to skip him. So it is done

New list is
List of Players
~~prOxi.Beater~~
~~Fen~~
Thratur
noddyz
deconduo
Biochemist
duckett
nttea
Mystlord
Manit0u

Which means Thratur is up.

However I agree with you Manit0u that chances are not everyone is still interested. Therefore, Can those who are still interested in playing please post in this thread to acknowledge that they are still around. If it comes to your turn and you haven't posted by your turn or in 3 days (whichever comes last) you will be dropped automatically.

Any objections?