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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11766 Posts
March 11 2010 21:00 GMT
#1741
Already coming in useful I see o/
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11766 Posts
March 12 2010 00:19 GMT
#1742
New patch notes are up in TR forum; Teemo is viable again O_O!
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Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
March 12 2010 00:32 GMT
#1743
I felt so dirty making a smurf account and stomping noobs but it's so much fun. You can almost carry your entire team depending on your hero.

But my level 6 account with no runes and barely any masteries just got matched up with all level 30's last game (my team and their team) and we won. And our Zilean went attack damage. Ahh looks like the fun is over.
Retvrn to Forvms
G0dly
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States450 Posts
March 12 2010 00:33 GMT
#1744
damn, they made some major changes to TF 0.0
The Emperor - The Genius - The Cheater - The Maestro
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
March 12 2010 00:46 GMT
#1745
CHO FEAST FULL DAMAGE

BACK TO VIABLE AGAIN
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
March 12 2010 01:24 GMT
#1746
So we just heard something in liquidparty about an anivia selling all her items and walling off the mid with wards

I think we may have found the lulz here
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
nataziel
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Australia1455 Posts
March 12 2010 02:36 GMT
#1747
On March 12 2010 09:19 Southlight wrote:
New patch notes are up in TR forum; Teemo is viable again O_O!


huh?
u gotta sk8
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
March 12 2010 04:44 GMT
#1748
On March 12 2010 10:24 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
So we just heard something in liquidparty about an anivia selling all her items and walling off the mid with wards

I think we may have found the lulz here

walling off the spawn point? :D
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
March 12 2010 06:03 GMT
#1749
I'm considering picking up alistar, wtb a good build order.
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EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
March 12 2010 12:36 GMT
#1750
On March 12 2010 11:36 nataziel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2010 09:19 Southlight wrote:
New patch notes are up in TR forum; Teemo is viable again O_O!


huh?

Since they split slows with multiple effects into multiple buffs, I'm guessing slow reduction shouldn't affect the DoT duration for Noxious Trap.

On a totally different note, the other day I faced a Ryze who appeared to have Desperate Power activated until he died (I was laning against him and he was in my vision range with it activated for longer than 8 seconds). I thought it might be just a graphic bug, but his AP also appeared to be boosted. Has anyone else seen this oddity?
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11766 Posts
March 12 2010 15:16 GMT
#1751
On March 12 2010 15:03 Mogwai wrote:
I'm considering picking up alistar, wtb a good build order.


I am by no means a good Alistar, so this is just going to be from random observations.

I've seen some people get Sheen, because damage is nice. Some even turn this into TriForce, because they're cool like that.
I've seen some people open MM if they're laned with a skill spammer (and then turn it into Locket).
I've also seen some people rush Aegis.

In short, I don't think it matters what you get, as long as it helps the team. Because his ult is ridonculous.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
March 12 2010 16:19 GMT
#1752
MM -> Locket? Really? The first time I played him I went locket and I wanted to kill myself the whole match. It just felt like a really inefficient use of over 2.5k gold to me. MM -> Soul Shroud seems like a better investment to me. I think I'm gonna try something along the lines of sheen, boots, shroud/aegis, but from there, jeez, I don't even know what to do. I played one game with him last night and I kinda forgot how stupid his ult was and got like, treads and veil by the end game, but I honestly can't tell if it's even worth it. Any investment in anything strictly defensive just seems to be a waste of gold that could be better spend on making you enough of a threat to draw attention in team fights.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11766 Posts
March 12 2010 16:24 GMT
#1753
Either one works, but I've seen Lockets more often. I don't see MM in general much, though, most Alist are content going Sheen or something, so take it with a grain of salt. StuffedTurkey (Alist I usually play with) does random stuff like rushing GA if he's got a free farm, so whatever. Point is, it hardly matters what you get, as his ult is so stupid, as long you're initiating properly, stunning, etc. and using your ult when needed. Probably can even go Lichbane and as long as you're ulting, no one will notice ~_~;
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
March 12 2010 16:56 GMT
#1754
ok, yea, I'm gonna fudge around with items after sheen, but I think I like the sound of soul shroud the most for keeping me on top of my mana and maxing my CD reduction so that I can ult more often :p.

for boots, I can't tell if I'm actually supposed to get treads with him. it seems like when you activate his ult, it busts all CC, so it seems like maybe boots of mobility would be better, but again, I can't really tell just how greedy you can get with his item build because of his stupid ult.

last night I was playing with a group of dudes that I barely know and they were constantly bitching about how broken Ryze and Warwick are (we lost a few team games to warwick/ryze teams, they weren't very good at the whole team fighting thing) and it made me lol. then they invited me to do a 5v5 practice game that I completely stomped with Sivir and one of the guys on the other team was bitching about how fiddlesticks was broken (despite it being me that raped them, our fiddle had like 4 kills) and he wasn't going to play any more if our team had a fiddlesticks and it devolved into some middle school type drama over skype, lol (they're college kids, I'm 2 years out of college for reference). don't think I'll be playing with them anymore :p.
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hak
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Sweden768 Posts
March 12 2010 17:16 GMT
#1755
hmm i tried this a couple of games but i think it was terrible compared to hon.

the graphics, seriously wtf? do you guys really enjoy the graphics? its just so.... disney and sega-ish.

can someone explain to me why you would prefer LoL over HoN? whats the pro's? i only see cons but that's me. would be interested to hear from someone who played both LoL and HoN
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
March 12 2010 17:47 GMT
#1756
On March 13 2010 02:16 hak wrote:
hmm i tried this a couple of games but i think it was terrible compared to hon.

the graphics, seriously wtf? do you guys really enjoy the graphics? its just so.... disney and sega-ish.

can someone explain to me why you would prefer LoL over HoN? whats the pro's? i only see cons but that's me. would be interested to hear from someone who played both LoL and HoN

So just because graphics are pretty it means they are bad, because disney makes pretty graphics. Owww...

Well, LoL is way less dota-like so if you are expecting DOTA2 go play HoN, map seems kinda smaller in LoL, there's way bigger focus on ganks/teambattles, and there are bushes. I can't imagine coming back to dota just because of bushes alone lol. Also every hero has "special passive ability", which makes them even more unique and of course it's totally matter of preference which heroes suit your style. I didn't like any of HoN heroes (and found the way you play the game a little less exciting) but immediatelly found 3 heroes that suited my style so i've stick with LoL.
You just have to try to play the game, not look at the game, because argument that "i don't enjoy the graphics" is not a good argument for ignoring any game.

Don't judge a book by it's cover
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11766 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-12 18:02:08
March 12 2010 17:48 GMT
#1757
HoN is DotA ver 2, in terms of graphics and gameplay.

The graphics are fine, personally, as I find it rather stylish. Can't say I pay too much attention when the game is on, though. That's just how it goes. Should be the case for most people here, as this is a Starcraft forum.

As for pros of LoL > DotA/HoN, as has been mentioned a zillion times already (maybe I should edit this sort of thing into my first-page post for easy reference?)

It's a lot faster-paced, by design (faster cooldowns, faster mana regen), isn't dominated by lane control heroes because of the lack of creep denial (although you can still "deny exp" by pushing them out of exp range), and the devs put a tremendous amount of effort into balancing heroes. It'll never be perfect; that's just how this sort of game goes, but it's far, far more balanced than DotA ever was, and I routinely hear HoN being as good as DotA when it comes to that spectrum.

Brush (grass) is also a mechanic that's hard to let go of.

The biggest con would be the prevalence of 5-man gank-squads in the current meta, but for most people/games this won't occur as quickly as top-tier competitive matches and shouldn't be as big of a problem. Would still love to see this rectified, though.

But if you wanna watch gritty, high-quality graphics, this obviously isn't your game.

Edit:
Beaten by the poster above <3
Also, yeah, Disney is awesome, so screw you.

Edit2:
Likewise, it is hard to go back to DotA/HoN after playing LoL, personally. The speed of game is killer. For instance, Blitzcrank, the LoL hook-shot hero, can fire his hook like 4-5 times without any break in between before running out of mana, even more if he bothers setting up utility/mana regen utilities and/or runes, and further more if he's laned with someone that bought an item to give him mana. Meanwhile in DotA, Pudge would hook like twice and be out of mana. And ofc bottle isn't much of a help in that regard, so you'd hook twice, bottle up, hook a third time, then have to go back. Meanwhile my memory of DotA/HoN is laning for like 5 minutes before you can set up a single kill-combo with a teammate, unless you're using a double-stun/nuke combo or something.

Oh not to mention with Pudge you have to wait until level 6 to reliably kill anything, whereas Blitz can kill crap at level 2. Especially with a lane partner.
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Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
March 12 2010 19:27 GMT
#1758
They are already implementing the best possible solution to 5man gank squads imaginable - 3v3. The European Server is holding a official 3v3Tournament so expect it to go live next Patch.

3v3 benefits 1v1Heroes that are considered overshadowed in 5v5 like Mundo since CC is now a real tradoff to Damage.
Pushers are also a lot better since the distance between the Towers is greater than the River in Summoners.
This obviously is no solution to the problems in 5v5 but at least there is a alternative.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
March 12 2010 19:49 GMT
#1759
have there been any legitimate suggestions to fix the problem in 5v5s? I can't even think of a nice way to balance the 5 man gank squad issue...
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
March 12 2010 20:20 GMT
#1760
On March 13 2010 02:16 hak wrote:
hmm i tried this a couple of games but i think it was terrible compared to hon.

the graphics, seriously wtf? do you guys really enjoy the graphics? its just so.... disney and sega-ish.

can someone explain to me why you would prefer LoL over HoN? whats the pro's? i only see cons but that's me. would be interested to hear from someone who played both LoL and HoN

I play on the low settings for that very reason, on low everyone doesn't look so much like a damn cartoon.
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