
rod of ages, sorc boots, abysmal sceptre, banshee veil, frozenheart, rylai's = fucking awesome
but annie is extremely easy to play so I got tired of stomping with her
Forum Index > General Games |
Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
![]() rod of ages, sorc boots, abysmal sceptre, banshee veil, frozenheart, rylai's = fucking awesome but annie is extremely easy to play so I got tired of stomping with her | ||
ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
![]() Just saying :D. | ||
Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
nice job tho | ||
ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
March 01 2010 01:03 GMT
#1464
| ||
mptj
United States485 Posts
March 01 2010 01:11 GMT
#1465
| ||
![]()
520
United States2822 Posts
March 01 2010 03:49 GMT
#1466
| ||
ShaperofDreams
Canada2492 Posts
March 01 2010 04:30 GMT
#1467
| ||
uSiN
United States208 Posts
March 01 2010 05:32 GMT
#1468
I was watching T-ara - I go crazy because of you my friends heard it and their like "their saying son of a bitch ho" and this because inside joke within the last 4 hours. We also play League of Legends and this is what one of my friend came up with. + Show Spoiler + ![]() + Show Spoiler + Our new theme song and it gets others so confused its hilarious. | ||
ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
March 01 2010 06:50 GMT
#1469
| ||
eaT_Mi_Lquid
Germany509 Posts
March 01 2010 14:31 GMT
#1470
I'm a long time TL lurker, but recently decided to join because of LoL. ![]() | ||
Southlight
United States11767 Posts
March 01 2010 15:15 GMT
#1471
LiquidParty is active sometimes, sometimes not. Doesn't hurt to auto-join it, though, I think. | ||
Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
March 01 2010 19:07 GMT
#1472
| ||
Unentschieden
Germany1471 Posts
March 01 2010 19:28 GMT
#1473
| ||
StorkHwaiting
United States3465 Posts
March 01 2010 19:31 GMT
#1474
On March 02 2010 04:07 Mogwai wrote: word on the streets is that Jax went from pretty bad to really fucking good with this patch. I see the two major changes as a big deal, but I'm not sure I buy the amount of hype over him right now... Anyone have any experiences to confirm/deny that Jax is really fucking good now that he gets bonus HP off his passive and can jump to friendly units? He's not. He still dies to any kind of stun + focus fire. It's just nooby-mid tier level at best. Jax still has trouble farming and still has trouble versus a good team composition. Having hp doesn't really mean much with Annie/Crow ults and Alistar to stun. Melee dps are still pretty crappy in high-tier play. If it goes to SUPER late game, yeah Jax can do well with a huge hp + guardian angel, but chances are Jax and his team will get rolled in the mid game. Jax doesn't bring hardly anything to team fights in the midgame and that's where most teams with Jax will lose. | ||
Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
March 01 2010 19:33 GMT
#1475
I had previously assumed that Atma's bonus damage was a proc effect on an attack (like sheen's bonus damage or something), but then I read about the recursive gain thing and it just seems like the sort of thing that probably should've been caught before they rolled that patch out. | ||
Southlight
United States11767 Posts
March 01 2010 19:34 GMT
#1476
Income and efficient usage of gold is key for carries, esp. melee dps who have to split gold between attack speed, damage, HP, armor, and MR. Every viable melee dps hero has at least two or three skills that offset the need for some of those, allowing them to focus on a handful, instead of all. Jax has one item (GRB) that provides attack speed, damage, and HP. (ult gives attack speed too) Armor is negated by dodge. 85 MR from Merc Treads + base MR. And every time he increases damage he also increases HP, making him twice as efficient gold-wise than any other hero. Thus, he will reach god status far, far faster than any other hero. And he is strong from level 6, and has two escape mechanisms at level 2-3. And can jungle. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- One of the problems with Jax was keeping up his attack speed (his ult gives attack speed but especially pre-level 11/16 it was hard to get much speed going, you can feel this) whilst not compromising damage (attack speed items often expensive, and damage items don't usually give attack speed) and survival (hp, armor, MR). Guinsoo's Rageblade, which has become the norm for him, has become like a perma-max buff, because 8 stacks on GRB is like what, 30% attack speed and 50 AP? And because he has two! spam skills, both of which are relatively inexpensive, he can charge up to 8 stacks and maintain it, even outside of combat, for a decent amount of time. This also increases damage, because you get like a flat 30/30 damage and AP, plus another 50ish from max stack, and the 30 damage/80 AP gives you some good HP (about 400). That one item basically sets up his basic damage output for good. Beyond that now you have the option of balancing damage and survival, with the caveat that any damage item you make gives you ridiculous survival. Finish Bloodthirster and you get more HP than a Giant's Belt (1150 gold). While also giving you some crazy damage output. Get Treads and you'll be staring at about 25% dodge rate (with runes) and 85 magic resist, and with the passive giving HP he's a free tank at the cost of damage. LOCUST actually considers Jax the #1 hero now (over TF!) because it's so difficult to kill a Jax, who will tank and punish you. He's Alistar-tier in terms of tanking prowess now. If you ignore a Jax you'll lose some heroes. If you attack him he's liable to doing AoE stuns. I don't think I would go that far (although LOCUST generally knows what he's talking about) but he's definitely a very, very powerful hero, I'd consider him top 10 easily. He's by far the best hybrid melee DPS/tank character now (easily trumping Nasus). Edit: Case and point, go Guinsoo, Treads, and Thirster; you're looking at like 50 armor, 85 MR, roughly 3000 HP, and something like 200 attack damage and 80 AP, the last of which obviously affects the damage output of every single skill he has. That's like 7000 gold. Most matches over around the 10k gold mark. A BF Sword on him is +50 damage and +250 hp. That's like a freakin free Ruby Crystal (475 gold). | ||
Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
March 01 2010 19:47 GMT
#1477
| ||
StorkHwaiting
United States3465 Posts
March 01 2010 19:48 GMT
#1478
On March 02 2010 04:34 Southlight wrote: One of the problems with Jax was keeping up his attack speed (his ult gives attack speed but especially pre-level 11/16 it was hard to get much speed going, you can feel this) whilst not compromising damage (attack speed items often expensive, and damage items don't usually give attack speed) and survival (hp, armor, MR). Guinsoo's Rageblade, which has become the norm for him, has become like a perma-max buff, because 8 stacks on GRB is like what, 30% attack speed and 50 AP? And because he has two! spam skills, both of which are relatively inexpensive, he can charge up to 8 stacks and maintain it, even outside of combat, for a decent amount of time. This also increases damage, because you get like a flat 30/30 damage and AP, plus another 50ish from max stack, and the 30 damage gives you some good HP. That one item basically sets up his basic damage output for good. Beyond that now you have the option of balancing damage and survival, with the caveat that any damage item you make gives you ridiculous survival. Finish Bloodthirster and you get more HP than a Giant's Belt (1150 gold). While also giving you some crazy damage output. Get Treads and you'll be staring at about 25% dodge rate (with runes) and 85 magic resist, and with the passive giving HP he's a free tank at the cost of damage. LOCUST actually considers Jax the #1 hero now (over TF!) because it's so difficult to kill a Jax, who will tank and punish you. He's Alistar-tier in terms of tanking prowess now. If you ignore a Jax you'll lose some heroes. If you attack him he's liable to doing AoE stuns. I don't think I would go that far (although LOCUST generally knows what he's talking about) but he's definitely a very, very powerful hero, I'd consider him top 10 easily. He's by far the best hybrid melee DPS/tank character now (easily trumping Nasus). Edit: Case and point, go Guinsoo, Treads, and Thirster; you're looking at like 50 armor, 85 MR, roughly 3000 HP, and something like 200 attack damage and 80 AP, the last of which obviously affects the damage output of every single skill he has. That's like 7000 gold. Most matches over around the 10k gold mark. I went BT on Jax and killed stuff and watched my damage tick up but not my hp. I hear a lot of people talking about how any +dmg for Jax = + hp but I'm not seeing it happen in my games. Am I just crazy or what's going on? o_0. Also, if I go a full page of damage runes does that buff my hp?? :-S. really confused because i'm not seeing any of these effects happen except for the actual damage and hp I get from buying the basic item... | ||
Southlight
United States11767 Posts
March 01 2010 19:50 GMT
#1479
Bloodthirster should give damage; if it doesn't it's a bug. Ho ho ho. Runes won't buff hp, because it's damage from items ![]() Yeah I had some ninja edits in my post btw; GRB gives 400 HP at max stack to Jax. And the tl;dr is prolly easier to read. | ||
StorkHwaiting
United States3465 Posts
March 01 2010 20:27 GMT
#1480
| ||
| ||
![]() StarCraft 2 StarCraft: Brood War Stormgate Dota 2 Other Games Organizations
StarCraft 2 • Berry_CruncH317 StarCraft: Brood War• davetesta31 • AfreecaTV YouTube • intothetv ![]() • Kozan • IndyKCrew ![]() • LaughNgamezSOOP • Migwel ![]() • sooper7s League of Legends Other Games |
LiuLi Cup
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
RSL Revival
RSL Revival
SC Evo League
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
CSO Cup
Sparkling Tuna Cup
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
Wardi Open
[ Show More ] RotterdaM Event
Replay Cast
RSL Revival
The PondCast
Replay Cast
|
|