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On May 28 2010 13:58 crate wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2010 13:42 SnK-Arcbound wrote:On May 28 2010 13:37 crate wrote:On May 28 2010 12:27 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
30% miss means jax would only do 70% of his damage. Since you can't mitigate damage that doesn't hit, we multiple that .7(the stuff that hits)x.7(reduction) =.49. We add those together to arrive at 79% miss or damage reduction. Of jax's 100% we subtract miss and mitigation to arrive at 21%. What the hell? Where does the 21% come from? .7 (hit chance) x .7 (30% reduction) = .49 ... period. You can't count the miss chance twice lol. Then ignoring the miss .7 x 1 =.7 reduction, meaning jax does 30% of his damage. So I guess missing attacks ADDS to your dps. Learn how to multiply. It's 51% reduction in my post, sorry I didn't clarify. 49% damage. I still have no idea where you could possibly get 21% from. edit: By the way I've played like 10 games of LoL so I'm certainly not saying anything other than that you have bad math. I have no idea about sunfire Shaco.
Actually, I'm pretty sure his math was OK.
I mean think about what you are saying. 259 armor / 100 + 259 = 72% DR which means they would be dealing 28% physical damage assuming every strike hit, and that isnt the case if they are poisoned.
edit: That said, I'd still like to see how he proposes to kill the jax build I posted above. I just don't see it happening.
edit2: also AP/Hybrid Jax deals a grip of magic damage, making all that DR fairly moot.
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On May 28 2010 14:06 radmax86 wrote:
Actually, I'm pretty sure his math was OK.
I mean think about what you are saying. 259 armor / 100 + 259 = 72% DR which means they would be dealing 28% physical damage assuming every strike hit, and that isnt the case if they are poisoned.
edit: That said, I'd still like to see how he proposes to kill the jax build I posted above. I just don't see it happening.
edit2: also AP/Hybrid Jax deals a grip of magic damage, making all that DR fairly moot.
I have never said that jax can't win against sunfire shaco. I said jax isn't a straight counter to sunfire shaco like he normally would be for AD/AP.
When I'm losing, I run, when I'm winning, I finish. I never said we stand there and smack each other and the winner is the one still living. I don't have to beat anyone at a straight 1v1 fight.
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Oh, 70% reduction. My bad then.
I still think the way you go about calculating it in your original post is counterintuitive; I'd calculate how much damage he receives since that takes only one step.
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And any character that gets some decent HP and MR will force you to retreat, making you pretty much useless to your team. Good luck farming all those capes and successfully finishing kills versus competent opponents.
It's nothing more than a lulz build for pubstomping that isnt viable in high level play.
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ok, stop talking about sunfire shaco
it's funny, but bad
start talking about me diving nexus towers to kill an ez, cause yes, I am that awesome
EDIT: oh yea, and all the inner and inhib towers were still up.
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On May 28 2010 14:26 crate wrote:
Oh, 70% reduction. My bad then.
I still think the way you go about calculating it in your original post is counterintuitive; I'd calculate how much damage he receives since that takes only one step.
You can't do it with one step. With two numbers, 30% miss (or 100% mitigation for 30% of his damage, same difference) and 70% mitigation you need two steps in order to find how much damage he takes. You use the same method I just described, but instead of adding the two numbers together, you end up subtracting them from what's left oh his damage. It's exactly the same.
You were correct that 49% was how much of his damage was being mitigated, but that 49% was of the 70% that hit (which is still 70% of the damage being mitigated).
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faggots stealing mid.
then acting like they're a hero when the other mid tower dives and fails.
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you told me to fb as boots panth vs. elixir panth, so you can fuck off and die for bitching about how I chose to do it lol.
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Assholes making me tank instead of killing people with Kassadin T_T
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did you see that one layered ult + HS though?
it was a thing of beauty, I'm pretty sure I'm creamed myself as Ashe and Ez exploded
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I don't remember :x I don't even know which game you're talking about, lol.
Edit:
If it was a Malphite game, I don't usually watch "ground zero" of my ult, 'cause I'm usually tracking every hero to decide where to move next.
If it was a Kass game... well we had a lot of exploding squishies :D
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the last one, where you were malph and you ulted the three of them by dragon and right beforehand I started my HS on them.
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Hahah, yeah I was totally not watching, that's a bit of a shame 
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ARHHHHHG I just missed a penta kill by like <2 seconds.
I got a quad though but man that was soooooo close =[
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Holy fuck what the fuck is going on in this thread? This is way too much theorycrafting, even for a fucking Starcraft website.
Just learn to own face, like me and my Ashe and/or Soraka.
edit: On 20th hour of my shift, 8 more to go, wooo
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is it weird that I'm starting to think pantheon is currently tier 2 or 3 and just needs to be able to jump over terrain with his w?
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if he is tier 2 or 3, he doesn't need anything.
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no, he still needs bug fixes. the fact that his jump neither jumps nor stuns 75% of the time you chase in the woods is stupid and needs to be fixed.
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They should not fix the HS bug for pantheon. Its the main thing that keeps him relevant in teamfights.
His jump stun duration should be longer and should be a skillshot.
My opinions anyways.
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On May 28 2010 11:49 Gokey wrote:
*Updated*
THIS SATURDAY:
What: Let's all do a Teamliquid in-house draft tourney day!!
When: Saturday, May 29, 2010; 6PM Eastern, 3PM Pacific
Format: Everyone who signed up meet in LiquidParty channel. Then team "captains" will pick players based on who showed up/signed up. First pick is given to random team. Captains will be based on who signs up and who wants to be a captain.
If you're interested, post here your name and played characters, IN ORDER OF PREFERENCE (skill with that character).
We need at least 10 people signed up for this to work! Don't be shy.
1. Gozey - Ashe, Soraka
2. ChrispySC - Shen, Akali, Ezreal
3. Alethios - Soraka, Kat, Warwick, Trynd, Nunu
4. Ruken - Nasus
5. Soloside - Nidalee, TF, Ashe, Garen
6. DazzL - Nidalee, Ashe, Kassadin
7. RadJacob - Tristana
Prize: Bragging rights and post-game screenshot. Bring your A-game. Yay!
Sign me in !
Puffelipuff - Malph, Kennen, Shaco
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