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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 19 2010 14:37 GMT
#4341
soraka has one of the highest w/l on lolbase iirc. I feel like it's Janna first and then Soraka, but I can't remember and am too lazy right now.
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
May 19 2010 15:26 GMT
#4342
lolbase's statistics are usually of higher level games, so the Sorakas that do play are usually pretty good. Most low-level games with Soraka blow chunks because people don't understand how to take advantage of constant heals and mana restoration.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 19 2010 15:37 GMT
#4343
well, I think lolbase's stats reflect that scrubbier players tend to not like support. I think a lot of scrub games end up on lolbase, but it's just the fact that they're not turned on by Janna or by healing people, so you get an inherent bias towards the support that's necessary on better teams.
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
May 19 2010 17:18 GMT
#4344
On May 20 2010 00:37 Mogwai wrote:
well, I think lolbase's stats reflect that scrubbier players tend to not like support. I think a lot of scrub games end up on lolbase, but it's just the fact that they're not turned on by Janna or by healing people, so you get an inherent bias towards the support that's necessary on better teams.

Yeah. One of the saddest lineups I've seen in LoL was: Jax, Yi, Gangplank, Pantheon and someone else, I think it was Trist. 4x melee, no tank, no support... of course teams with a tank and support will rape lineups like that one :p
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
Madkipz
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway1643 Posts
May 19 2010 17:27 GMT
#4345
On May 20 2010 02:18 Zato-1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2010 00:37 Mogwai wrote:
well, I think lolbase's stats reflect that scrubbier players tend to not like support. I think a lot of scrub games end up on lolbase, but it's just the fact that they're not turned on by Janna or by healing people, so you get an inherent bias towards the support that's necessary on better teams.

Yeah. One of the saddest lineups I've seen in LoL was: Jax, Yi, Gangplank, Pantheon and someone else, I think it was Trist. 4x melee, no tank, no support... of course teams with a tank and support will rape lineups like that one :p


Its worse than that, tanks get raped without the proper support so after pwning it up in TT with warwick i went for 5v5 and decided ok, i will use malphite and Alistair because of their similarities then i got into some games where people picked 4x carries and they stomp my face because i lack support ;/ should i just cherry pick my games and que dodge? or pick a carry hero myself?
"Mudkip"
pokeyAA
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States936 Posts
May 19 2010 17:36 GMT
#4346
On May 20 2010 02:18 Zato-1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2010 00:37 Mogwai wrote:
well, I think lolbase's stats reflect that scrubbier players tend to not like support. I think a lot of scrub games end up on lolbase, but it's just the fact that they're not turned on by Janna or by healing people, so you get an inherent bias towards the support that's necessary on better teams.

Yeah. One of the saddest lineups I've seen in LoL was: Jax, Yi, Gangplank, Pantheon and someone else, I think it was Trist. 4x melee, no tank, no support... of course teams with a tank and support will rape lineups like that one :p


I'll raise you a Eve, heimer, yi, shaco, tryn
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
May 19 2010 18:29 GMT
#4347
I'll raise you Heimer Karthus Yi... in a 5v5 game. Because the other 2 disconnected. On the loading screen.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-19 18:35:02
May 19 2010 18:34 GMT
#4348
On May 14 2010 20:06 Dr.Kill-Joy wrote:
Tryndamere blows, there is no hate on that


[image loading]


Level 30, mid-elo. From yesterday.

Just say'n =)
radmax86
Profile Joined September 2004
United States437 Posts
May 19 2010 20:28 GMT
#4349
congrats on wasting your time editing and taking screenshots of all your games.

just sayin'
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-19 20:38:13
May 19 2010 20:36 GMT
#4350
On May 20 2010 05:28 radmax86 wrote:
congrats on wasting your time editing and taking screenshots of all your games.

just sayin'

Aw come on, that's no way to talk to Mr. Bitter. I still remember all those matchup spotlights where he trashtalked with JWD back in SC2GG.com... they were so funny :D
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Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-19 20:52:58
May 19 2010 20:47 GMT
#4351
how can i fix a crappy win/loss ratio at around level 20?
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 19 2010 20:50 GMT
#4352
You just gotta play through it until the elo levels out to the point where games stop getting decided by which team has the worse feeder so that your skills shine through and start to translate into wins.

Or team with someone higher level/elo and drag yours up quickly (o/ Southlight!)
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
pokeyAA
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States936 Posts
May 19 2010 21:48 GMT
#4353
On May 20 2010 05:47 Frolossus wrote:
how can i fix a crappy win/loss ratio at around level 20?


1.) Get good at Soraka.
2.) Gather teammates for 5 man pushes down the middle.
3.) Laugh at enemies that target you first during team fights
4.) Push down inhibs and mock the other team's 4 carries that keep trying to focus you.
5.) Go on massive winning streak

Congrats you now should have a better win loss ratio!

On that note, I believe even more now that tank/aura Soraka is the way to go, as now they're planning on lowering the AP ratios on astral blessing and wish by quite a bit. That means AP Soraka will be taking a hit.
DanceCommander
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1808 Posts
May 19 2010 22:14 GMT
#4354
On May 20 2010 03:34 MrBitter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2010 20:06 Dr.Kill-Joy wrote:
Tryndamere blows, there is no hate on that


[image loading]


Level 30, mid-elo. From yesterday.

Just say'n =)

any char is good when fed lol
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
May 19 2010 22:29 GMT
#4355
On May 20 2010 07:14 DanceCommander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2010 03:34 MrBitter wrote:
On May 14 2010 20:06 Dr.Kill-Joy wrote:
Tryndamere blows, there is no hate on that


[image loading]


Level 30, mid-elo. From yesterday.

Just say'n =)

any char is good when fed lol

Pretty sure the purpose of that SS is to show how he's done well on several games in a row :p
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
May 19 2010 22:41 GMT
#4356
what character to u guys think has the most skill/effectiveness ratio. ive been trying out a couple.
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
judochopaction
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States533 Posts
May 19 2010 23:17 GMT
#4357
On May 20 2010 07:41 HeavOnEarth wrote:
what character to u guys think has the most skill/effectiveness ratio. ive been trying out a couple.


Fiddlesticks and Jax. Either of these characters played well can single handedly influence the game into a victory or a loss.
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
May 19 2010 23:24 GMT
#4358
On May 20 2010 08:17 judochopaction wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2010 07:41 HeavOnEarth wrote:
what character to u guys think has the most skill/effectiveness ratio. ive been trying out a couple.


Fiddlesticks and Jax. Either of these characters played well can single handedly influence the game into a victory or a loss.


But that's not what he's asking. Fiddle is not easy to play -- he's actually notoriously hard (though I think that's overstated). Tristana is probably the answer to this question -- her skills are obvious, she's top tier until higher ELOs, and her item builds are straightforward.
Mazer
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada1086 Posts
May 20 2010 00:03 GMT
#4359
Played against and with a few good Trynds today.. They weren't fed either. He can be good.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-20 00:43:59
May 20 2010 00:42 GMT
#4360
On May 20 2010 07:41 HeavOnEarth wrote:
what character to u guys think has the most skill/effectiveness ratio. ive been trying out a couple.

when I'm mad tired and just wanna right click and win games I play Ashe or Sivir.

Sivir's the easiest for it in pubs though, you just spec 0/21/9, get doran's shield + hp pot, w, e, w, q -> r > w > q > e, BF Sword -> treads -> LW -> moar BF Swords -> Bloodthirsters. She still sucks, but when I can't stand to think, this is totally how I win games, lol.

EDIT: cause I don't wanna torture Baikin with Sivir drama repeat, I don't actually think she sucks, but I do think she's tier 3, not 1 or 2 like everyone else seems to think.
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