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rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-09 08:33:57
May 09 2010 08:33 GMT
#3781
hmm southlight i just noticed you put articuno in great tier. why's that?
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SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-09 08:49:01
May 09 2010 08:48 GMT
#3782
After doing many mediocre about 50/50 games as Shaco, I've been playing Tank nunu (as opposed to AP) and have been dominating. I run around slowing people and speeding people up while eating damage (and mobs XP), and occasionally force the opponents to use CC on me with my Ult, or let it hit for over 1000 with no boosts (nice damage no matter who you're playing).
Baikinman
Profile Joined January 2010
United States74 Posts
May 09 2010 09:09 GMT
#3783
i say SR is more balanced cuz AP hero can get strong but so can the tanks and dps hero.

its made so most, not all hero has a chance of being very strong.

And there is TT where only 5 or so hero's who easily can call themselves awsome and rest being "ok"
はっひふっへほ~♪
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
May 09 2010 09:51 GMT
#3784
On May 09 2010 17:33 redtooth wrote:
hmm southlight i just noticed you put articuno in great tier. why's that?


Anivia's almost an auto-team-fight-win in jungles, so she imposes ridiculous map control. She beats or matches up to every dps hero solo mid, has 3 CC skills (only Fiddle has stronger CC), and is a comparable nuker to Annie. Not to mention she's nasty to lane against 2v2, too.
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kyzers0ze
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Singapore1073 Posts
May 09 2010 12:35 GMT
#3785
i fucking hate having an off day. nothing ever goes ur way
8==========))
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
May 09 2010 15:43 GMT
#3786
It's weird hearing people compare AD/AP Ez; I've always considered them different characters -- AD is DPS, AP is support. So the "better" build is really dependent on whether your team has another DPS.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
May 09 2010 17:04 GMT
#3787
well if ur running ez on TT, janna is a must basically, so you'll prob have something like jax/ez/janna.

AP = AOE

AD = Single Burst

that is why people prefer AD on TT mainly, but I dont reall recommend him on TT in the first place
Brees on in
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-09 18:44:56
May 09 2010 17:30 GMT
#3788
On May 10 2010 02:04 Brees wrote:
well if ur running ez on TT, janna is a must basically, so you'll prob have something like jax/ez/janna.

AP = AOE

AD = Single Burst

that is why people prefer AD on TT mainly, but I dont reall recommend him on TT in the first place


With the obvious caveat,

On May 10 2010 03:06 Brees wrote:
not every player is takashi tho


watching Takashi play him in the TT finals was fairly convincing.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
May 09 2010 18:06 GMT
#3789
not every player is takashi tho

im just sayin dont go playing ez on TT thinking you'll have the same success as him @@ very difficult char to play there and requires a ton of coordination
Brees on in
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
May 09 2010 18:45 GMT
#3790
Mundo on TT is really difficult. You actually don't win lv1 fights with him - he starts off too squishy and with too little aspd - unless you have someone who can buff it. Even then, you're not too tough until level 6. It works, but you're basically a late-game carry. Janna/Jax is stronger than Mundo/whatever. I do like Mundo/Warwick/Zilean.
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
May 09 2010 19:01 GMT
#3791
On May 10 2010 02:30 oberon wrote:
watching Takashi play him in the TT finals was fairly convincing.

Are there videos of this I can watch? Couldn't find any from searching in Google or Youtube.
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oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
May 09 2010 20:55 GMT
#3792
On May 10 2010 04:01 Zato-1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2010 02:30 oberon wrote:
watching Takashi play him in the TT finals was fairly convincing.

Are there videos of this I can watch? Couldn't find any from searching in Google or Youtube.


You can probably find them on the solomid livestream account.
dEPIMpe
Profile Joined April 2010
United States23 Posts
May 09 2010 23:57 GMT
#3793
If anyone wants to play with me my IGN is Garonga (level 15) and just hit me up ill probably be idling in that chatroom as well
this is a quote
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
May 10 2010 00:02 GMT
#3794
Just played a 3v3 where my teammates were complaining about our opponent backdooring, saying it was super bm. Why is that? And what exactly is it? I heard that it's killing towers without creeps there but I don't see anything wrong with that.
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Madkipz
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway1643 Posts
May 10 2010 00:14 GMT
#3795
On May 10 2010 09:02 HazMat wrote:
Just played a 3v3 where my teammates were complaining about our opponent backdooring, saying it was super bm. Why is that? And what exactly is it? I heard that it's killing towers without creeps there but I don't see anything wrong with that.


There is nothing wrong with that.
"Mudkip"
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
May 10 2010 00:22 GMT
#3796
You have the right definition, and it's a totally legit strat. It's like people who bitch about 4 pools -- if you can't handle it, it's your fault.
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
May 10 2010 01:02 GMT
#3797
though it is super-frustrating to deal with and really hard to counter in pugs, especially around the skill-level when Master Yi is getting fed.
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fspikec
Profile Joined March 2010
United States30 Posts
May 10 2010 01:20 GMT
#3798
meh, frustrating today. Being playing Warwick and loving it, getting 10+ kills easily almost every game, but yet still losing. My teammates, 0/11 jax, 2/12 ryze, 0/15 sivir, leavers etc...

Warwick is fun and all, but in pugs, just doesn't work 85% of the time.

One thing I've noticed, avoid people that place Xx...xX or xX.....Xx or something similar around their name. Avoid them like the plague. I've yet to see one go positive. One of them called me a noob for jungling (I was playing Warwick) shortly after he fail tower dived. I just facepalmed.

And oh btw. Screw Teemo.



lings? again? sigh...
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
May 10 2010 01:53 GMT
#3799
On May 10 2010 09:02 HazMat wrote:
Just played a 3v3 where my teammates were complaining about our opponent backdooring, saying it was super bm. Why is that? And what exactly is it? I heard that it's killing towers without creeps there but I don't see anything wrong with that.


Think of it like countering in SC, he's running his forces around the map, and you Recall into his base and start smashing it, except his base is 5 supply depots.

It usually happens due to inattentiveness or someone like Yi being able to smash super hard. Yi can take down a tower in less than 10 seconds. We actually won a game like this. They need to kill our tower to get to the win thingy (what ever that's called lol), but they decided to make a pitstop at the northern inhibitor which had respawned. They saw two people south at their base, and assumed I was lurking around there too. Unfortunately for them, I was in our base, just waiting to put some damage on them when they get close to a turret. So while they are dancing, one person ported back and Tryndamere ate through two towers, and by the time they realised they wouldn't be getting past me and our third, their last inhibitor was going to die.

Not a perfect example, so I'll give you the purest form of backdooring. Their last tower is dead, and you have someone jump or tele up their front middle and destroy their last inhibitor. This either forces one or more of their team to camp their last inhibitor.

The game is hero centric, so people don't consider losing buildings to be a fair way to lose (even though it's the point of the game). You have to kill them, then the buildings. It's just misunderstanding the point of the game. You might be able to win every team battle, but that isn't the point of the game. Killing hero's makes it easier to win, that's it.
bellweather
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States404 Posts
May 10 2010 02:17 GMT
#3800
On May 10 2010 09:02 HazMat wrote:
Just played a 3v3 where my teammates were complaining about our opponent backdooring, saying it was super bm. Why is that? And what exactly is it? I heard that it's killing towers without creeps there but I don't see anything wrong with that.


Originates from DotA, and not even the newer versions, the much older ones. LoL has the luxury of blue pills, there was a time in DotA when you couldn't even buy items that could teleport you back to base.
A mathematician is a blind man in a dark room looking for a black cat which isnt' there. -Charles Darwin
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