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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
May 08 2010 17:36 GMT
#3741
On May 08 2010 21:45 Madkipz wrote:
so in all manners its a flawed tier list compared with for example a street fighter tier list, because personal bias doesnt belong in a tier list.


I would say every LoL tier list is that way, because there's no definitive way to characterize heroes ala framerate per attack etc.
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Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
May 08 2010 17:54 GMT
#3742
I have lost so many games in a row because it's always MY team's teemo that builds pure attackspeed and always MY team's TF that feeds their gragas 4 kills in laning and always MY team's tryndamere who builds Warmogs and Frozen Mallet before boots.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
Baikinman
Profile Joined January 2010
United States74 Posts
May 08 2010 17:57 GMT
#3743
i just read the Liquid Party comment Tooplark = Rugeater? haha yes... teemo seems really useless these days even when i play as blitzcrank, Teemo's blind doesn't seem to help much because it doesn't last long enough.
はっひふっへほ~♪
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
May 08 2010 18:05 GMT
#3744
On May 09 2010 02:57 Baikinman wrote:
i just read the Liquid Party comment Tooplark = Rugeater? haha yes... teemo seems really useless these days even when i play as blitzcrank, Teemo's blind doesn't seem to help much because it doesn't last long enough.

normal hit + dart and running away is the most awesome harass thing for harassment in the laning phase... It's godly vs ashe or sivir fx.
In the woods, there lurks..
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-08 18:20:07
May 08 2010 18:19 GMT
#3745
On May 08 2010 15:32 evanthebouncy! wrote:
I play fiddle, any protips?
I mainly do tanky style with lots of health after my banshee's veil. I'm 21-12 with this set up so I believe I'm doing pretty well xD

But it'll be interesting to see other people's opinions


I have a bunch of Fiddle builds:

Ganky: get one point of dark wind, then ult > drain > fear > wind. Buy Mejai's ASAP. Find lone enemies, storm out onto them, fear, dark wind, drain. Build up your stacks, then grab a Zhonya's. From there, survivability: Rylai's, Veil, etc. Ghost + something for summoner spells.

Tanky: ult > wind > fear > drain. Open mana manip, and lane with someone who can use it. Build up to soul shroud, rylai's, veil, and glacial shroud. The -CD means you can fear/silence quite a lot, and you're pretty beefy, but you need a lot of farm (hence the emphasis on wind) and you can't triple-kill out of nowhere like other builds.

Jungle: for skills, go WEWQWR. Start out with golem, then small camp, other small camp, lizard, enemy golem (wraiths if it's gone/too risky), then play it by ear. Sometimes you can get dragon, sometimes you can go gank, etc. Remember that your high level drain means your DPS is pretty decent for ganking. This is a very hard build to run, because you're very vulnerable early, and it imposes all sorts of limitations on your team -- if they screw up, you lose. Smite is a great summoner spell, but sorta blows your cover. I haven't tried rally, it might be a better disguise. Open amp tome -- if all goes well you can build it into Mejai around L5/6 and then go get your first gank to start stacking.

Lane: ult > wind > fear > drain. This is the sorta "standard" build -- get sorc shoes, void staff, Banshee's, etc. Wind is key for farming -- this build isn't cheap, and you're not a champion ganker, so you need some way to keep the money rolling in. Ghost/flash for summoner skills.

All of these builds should be 9/0/21, standard caster masteries.

I find Ganky is both fun and reliable. Jungle can be fun and dominating, but you need the right team (both composition and competency). Tanky is really hard to pull off, but makes a great support char and is incredibly annoying. Lane is boring, and not hugely good/bad at any given time -- pretty dull.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
May 08 2010 19:35 GMT
#3746
ew do not level up drain past level 1 if ur jungling, you get it at lvl 1 then never again until needed.
Brees on in
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
May 08 2010 20:03 GMT
#3747
On May 09 2010 04:35 Brees wrote:
ew do not level up drain past level 1 if ur jungling, you get it at lvl 1 then never again until needed.


Completely wrong. Drain is what does the majority of your damage when jungling. If you don't level it past 1, you'll hit level 4 when everyone else is 7-10, and have no cash, to boot -- i.e., you will lose. It's also your best ganking tool after your ult (dark wind deals almost no damage unless two enemies stand next to each other, which they won't). You can pour all your points into fear, but then you're relying on your teammates to kill the people you fear, and your ganks completely fail against cleanse.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
May 08 2010 20:50 GMT
#3748
On May 09 2010 05:03 oberon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2010 04:35 Brees wrote:
ew do not level up drain past level 1 if ur jungling, you get it at lvl 1 then never again until needed.


Completely wrong. Drain is what does the majority of your damage when jungling. If you don't level it past 1, you'll hit level 4 when everyone else is 7-10, and have no cash, to boot -- i.e., you will lose. It's also your best ganking tool after your ult (dark wind deals almost no damage unless two enemies stand next to each other, which they won't). You can pour all your points into fear, but then you're relying on your teammates to kill the people you fear, and your ganks completely fail against cleanse.
man this thread has so much e-peen battling and arguing. can't you say it in a less confrontational way?
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oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
May 08 2010 21:27 GMT
#3749
On May 09 2010 05:50 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2010 05:03 oberon wrote:
On May 09 2010 04:35 Brees wrote:
ew do not level up drain past level 1 if ur jungling, you get it at lvl 1 then never again until needed.


Completely wrong. Drain is what does the majority of your damage when jungling. If you don't level it past 1, you'll hit level 4 when everyone else is 7-10, and have no cash, to boot -- i.e., you will lose. It's also your best ganking tool after your ult (dark wind deals almost no damage unless two enemies stand next to each other, which they won't). You can pour all your points into fear, but then you're relying on your teammates to kill the people you fear, and your ganks completely fail against cleanse.
man this thread has so much e-peen battling and arguing. can't you say it in a less confrontational way?


I main Fiddle, and have played dozens of games with this build. I provided helpful information to someone who asked for it. Brees responded by saying "ew, don't do that" -- both insulting and wrong, while not providing an alternative.

So yes, I could be less confrontational, but I won't be.
Baikinman
Profile Joined January 2010
United States74 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-08 21:42:25
May 08 2010 21:41 GMT
#3750
You guys may have different play style and different builds but do just as good as the other.

Its good to argue so everyone can read the argument making different builds combining the 2 maybe 3 peoples build and play style.

I would like to read other peoples blitzcrank build, items, play style thats different from me so i can become more flexible with him.

はっひふっへほ~♪
dnosrc
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany454 Posts
May 08 2010 21:52 GMT
#3751
is it me or is soraka kind of boring?
maybe im just annoyed (having played healers in mmorpg like always)
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
May 08 2010 22:08 GMT
#3752
On May 09 2010 06:52 dnosrc wrote:
is it me or is soraka kind of boring?
maybe im just annoyed (having played healers in mmorpg like always)


I forget who it is, but one of the solomid streamers plays a ganking DPS Soraka. So there are other options...
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-08 22:13:14
May 08 2010 22:12 GMT
#3753
Ive played jungle fiddle a ton of times and I never get outlvled. his Q and E are so much better in teamfights. high levels of drain are acceptable at lower elos i guess, but when you'll be teamfighting from lvl 6 on its much better to have a high lvl of fear to negate their carry.

I also gank at lvl 4 after lizard though, among other things. I really dont jungle long which is why you dont need high lvls of drain.
Brees on in
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-08 22:18:01
May 08 2010 22:14 GMT
#3754
On May 09 2010 05:03 oberon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2010 04:35 Brees wrote:
ew do not level up drain past level 1 if ur jungling, you get it at lvl 1 then never again until needed.


Completely wrong. Drain is what does the majority of your damage when jungling. If you don't level it past 1, you'll hit level 4 when everyone else is 7-10, and have no cash, to boot -- i.e., you will lose. It's also your best ganking tool after your ult (dark wind deals almost no damage unless two enemies stand next to each other, which they won't). You can pour all your points into fear, but then you're relying on your teammates to kill the people you fear, and your ganks completely fail against cleanse.


and wow lvl 4 when people are 7-10? exaggerate more jesus. dark wind>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drain for farming.

emphasis.

edit- guess ill be a prick as well, your recent fiddle games are nothing to brag about.
Brees on in
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
May 08 2010 22:28 GMT
#3755
On May 09 2010 06:41 Baikinman wrote:
I would like to read other peoples blitzcrank build, items, play style thats different from me so i can become more flexible with him.


[image loading]

I'm personally a fan of opening Elixir on Jungle Fiddle, and I do hate it when a Fiddle levels up drain too much. I know Turkey mentioned you want level 2 Drain so you can Dragon at level 5, though (unnecessary with Elixir).
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Madkipz
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway1643 Posts
May 08 2010 22:41 GMT
#3756
I brought all the heroes, and have been fiddling around with a 0-rest-21 build using warwick and scion in twisted treeline and then recently started deviating around with oddball heroes but they all feel relativly dull, except Mundo hes a nice beast.¨

I use armor pen, dodge and magic resist runes atm as i just got over 20 so i wondered what to do next.

5v5 is just a massive aoe fest, my allistair isnt exactly optimal HURRRRR
"Mudkip"
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
May 08 2010 22:58 GMT
#3757
the problem with dragoning is solo is the other team is just shit if they let you sit at dragon that long without doing anything about it, I dont take dragon until after ganking/pushing bot lane then i get the ppl in lane to help
Brees on in
Shinshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1237 Posts
May 08 2010 23:21 GMT
#3758
Oh gawd that 5v5 we had through ladder was hilariously awesome xD...
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-08 23:34:38
May 08 2010 23:29 GMT
#3759
I feel like a douche for asking on this thread but what ever. Today, I cannot start or join a game on LoL. I get a disconnect after about 5 seconds. If I can find a game within 5 secs I'll be stuck on 0:00 on the game countdown. I can log out and then re-log back in and play with no problems.
I can chat with no problem, go to the store, chose masteries, if I don't start a game

I have tried everything I have found on google. I've reinstalled, turn offed my firewall, ran some scripts that allow LoL through firewall etc.. And still nothing.
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rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
May 08 2010 23:36 GMT
#3760
On May 09 2010 08:29 HazMat wrote:
I feel like a douche for asking on this thread but what ever. Today, I cannot start or join a game on LoL. I get a disconnect after about 5 seconds. If I can find a game within 5 secs I'll be stuck on 0:00 on the game countdown. I can log out and then re-log back in and play with no problems.
I can chat with no problem, go to the store, chose masteries, if I don't start a game

I have tried everything I have found on google. I've reinstalled, turn offed my firewall, ran some scripts that allow LoL through firewall etc.. And still nothing.
riot software is terrible. it glitches all the time. like my LoL disconnected during a game where we were ridiculously ahead, i check Opera to see if my internet was up, it was but i had to wait another minute before i reconnect, i reconnect and there are 3 heroes at our inhibitor. riot makes me angry sometimes.
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