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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On May 08 2010 21:45 Madkipz wrote: so in all manners its a flawed tier list compared with for example a street fighter tier list, because personal bias doesnt belong in a tier list. I would say every LoL tier list is that way, because there's no definitive way to characterize heroes ala framerate per attack etc. | ||
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
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Baikinman
United States74 Posts
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On May 09 2010 02:57 Baikinman wrote: i just read the Liquid Party comment Tooplark = Rugeater? haha yes... teemo seems really useless these days even when i play as blitzcrank, Teemo's blind doesn't seem to help much because it doesn't last long enough. normal hit + dart and running away is the most awesome harass thing for harassment in the laning phase... It's godly vs ashe or sivir fx. | ||
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oberon
United States1320 Posts
On May 08 2010 15:32 evanthebouncy! wrote: I play fiddle, any protips? I mainly do tanky style with lots of health after my banshee's veil. I'm 21-12 with this set up so I believe I'm doing pretty well xD But it'll be interesting to see other people's opinions I have a bunch of Fiddle builds: Ganky: get one point of dark wind, then ult > drain > fear > wind. Buy Mejai's ASAP. Find lone enemies, storm out onto them, fear, dark wind, drain. Build up your stacks, then grab a Zhonya's. From there, survivability: Rylai's, Veil, etc. Ghost + something for summoner spells. Tanky: ult > wind > fear > drain. Open mana manip, and lane with someone who can use it. Build up to soul shroud, rylai's, veil, and glacial shroud. The -CD means you can fear/silence quite a lot, and you're pretty beefy, but you need a lot of farm (hence the emphasis on wind) and you can't triple-kill out of nowhere like other builds. Jungle: for skills, go WEWQWR. Start out with golem, then small camp, other small camp, lizard, enemy golem (wraiths if it's gone/too risky), then play it by ear. Sometimes you can get dragon, sometimes you can go gank, etc. Remember that your high level drain means your DPS is pretty decent for ganking. This is a very hard build to run, because you're very vulnerable early, and it imposes all sorts of limitations on your team -- if they screw up, you lose. Smite is a great summoner spell, but sorta blows your cover. I haven't tried rally, it might be a better disguise. Open amp tome -- if all goes well you can build it into Mejai around L5/6 and then go get your first gank to start stacking. Lane: ult > wind > fear > drain. This is the sorta "standard" build -- get sorc shoes, void staff, Banshee's, etc. Wind is key for farming -- this build isn't cheap, and you're not a champion ganker, so you need some way to keep the money rolling in. Ghost/flash for summoner skills. All of these builds should be 9/0/21, standard caster masteries. I find Ganky is both fun and reliable. Jungle can be fun and dominating, but you need the right team (both composition and competency). Tanky is really hard to pull off, but makes a great support char and is incredibly annoying. Lane is boring, and not hugely good/bad at any given time -- pretty dull. | ||
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
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oberon
United States1320 Posts
On May 09 2010 04:35 Brees wrote: ew do not level up drain past level 1 if ur jungling, you get it at lvl 1 then never again until needed. Completely wrong. Drain is what does the majority of your damage when jungling. If you don't level it past 1, you'll hit level 4 when everyone else is 7-10, and have no cash, to boot -- i.e., you will lose. It's also your best ganking tool after your ult (dark wind deals almost no damage unless two enemies stand next to each other, which they won't). You can pour all your points into fear, but then you're relying on your teammates to kill the people you fear, and your ganks completely fail against cleanse. | ||
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rredtooth
5464 Posts
On May 09 2010 05:03 oberon wrote: man this thread has so much e-peen battling and arguing. can't you say it in a less confrontational way?Completely wrong. Drain is what does the majority of your damage when jungling. If you don't level it past 1, you'll hit level 4 when everyone else is 7-10, and have no cash, to boot -- i.e., you will lose. It's also your best ganking tool after your ult (dark wind deals almost no damage unless two enemies stand next to each other, which they won't). You can pour all your points into fear, but then you're relying on your teammates to kill the people you fear, and your ganks completely fail against cleanse. | ||
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oberon
United States1320 Posts
On May 09 2010 05:50 redtooth wrote: man this thread has so much e-peen battling and arguing. can't you say it in a less confrontational way? I main Fiddle, and have played dozens of games with this build. I provided helpful information to someone who asked for it. Brees responded by saying "ew, don't do that" -- both insulting and wrong, while not providing an alternative. So yes, I could be less confrontational, but I won't be. | ||
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Baikinman
United States74 Posts
Its good to argue so everyone can read the argument making different builds combining the 2 maybe 3 peoples build and play style. I would like to read other peoples blitzcrank build, items, play style thats different from me so i can become more flexible with him. | ||
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dnosrc
Germany454 Posts
maybe im just annoyed (having played healers in mmorpg like always) | ||
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oberon
United States1320 Posts
On May 09 2010 06:52 dnosrc wrote: is it me or is soraka kind of boring? maybe im just annoyed (having played healers in mmorpg like always) I forget who it is, but one of the solomid streamers plays a ganking DPS Soraka. So there are other options... | ||
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
I also gank at lvl 4 after lizard though, among other things. I really dont jungle long which is why you dont need high lvls of drain. | ||
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
On May 09 2010 05:03 oberon wrote: Completely wrong. Drain is what does the majority of your damage when jungling. If you don't level it past 1, you'll hit level 4 when everyone else is 7-10, and have no cash, to boot -- i.e., you will lose. It's also your best ganking tool after your ult (dark wind deals almost no damage unless two enemies stand next to each other, which they won't). You can pour all your points into fear, but then you're relying on your teammates to kill the people you fear, and your ganks completely fail against cleanse. and wow lvl 4 when people are 7-10? exaggerate more jesus. dark wind>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drain for farming. emphasis. edit- guess ill be a prick as well, your recent fiddle games are nothing to brag about. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On May 09 2010 06:41 Baikinman wrote: I would like to read other peoples blitzcrank build, items, play style thats different from me so i can become more flexible with him. ![[image loading]](http://www.karolinagames.com/horatio/images/b7629389c1da.jpg) I'm personally a fan of opening Elixir on Jungle Fiddle, and I do hate it when a Fiddle levels up drain too much. I know Turkey mentioned you want level 2 Drain so you can Dragon at level 5, though (unnecessary with Elixir). | ||
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Madkipz
Norway1643 Posts
I use armor pen, dodge and magic resist runes atm as i just got over 20 so i wondered what to do next. 5v5 is just a massive aoe fest, my allistair isnt exactly optimal HURRRRR  | ||
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
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Shinshady
Canada1237 Posts
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
I can chat with no problem, go to the store, chose masteries, if I don't start a game I have tried everything I have found on google. I've reinstalled, turn offed my firewall, ran some scripts that allow LoL through firewall etc.. And still nothing. | ||
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rredtooth
5464 Posts
On May 09 2010 08:29 HazMat wrote: riot software is terrible. it glitches all the time. like my LoL disconnected during a game where we were ridiculously ahead, i check Opera to see if my internet was up, it was but i had to wait another minute before i reconnect, i reconnect and there are 3 heroes at our inhibitor. riot makes me angry sometimes.I feel like a douche for asking on this thread but what ever. Today, I cannot start or join a game on LoL. I get a disconnect after about 5 seconds. If I can find a game within 5 secs I'll be stuck on 0:00 on the game countdown. I can log out and then re-log back in and play with no problems. I can chat with no problem, go to the store, chose masteries, if I don't start a game I have tried everything I have found on google. I've reinstalled, turn offed my firewall, ran some scripts that allow LoL through firewall etc.. And still nothing. | ||
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