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oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
April 18 2010 15:12 GMT
#2961
On April 18 2010 14:21 redtooth wrote:
you know... i'm okay with bad players. they're bad, i get it. i can deal with it. i'm more easily frustrated/raged by feeders who don't listen. if you listen to the players doing well then you won't feed.

then there are the fucking babies. an annie rage-afk'd during one of my games because someone accidentally stole golem. annie had accidentally stolen lizard earlier but everybody just stayed quiet about it. then gets golem stolen, won't accept an apology, and just goes afk.

we were ahead 2 towers, 1 kill, and a dragon at that point. way to let your pride get in the way and just be a fucking baby.


I played a game yesterday in which I was Fiddle, laning with Poppy, and we were rockin' (especially awesome: got a pre-minion first blood when the TF/warwick tried to invade our bushes and a bouncing bird silenced them both before they could see us). The other lane was Soraka and...someone, I forget who. They were TERRIBLE. The worst part, however, was that they spent half their time arguing about who was worse and telling eachother to go AFK, until the Soraka did.

Now, she was bad. No question. But seriously? Telling your teammate to go AFK? I think this qualifies as "worst idea ever".

On April 18 2010 15:03 Gao Xi wrote:
Speaking of fucking rage, I can't even play because there's always a fucking lag spike that stays for 15~45 seconds where the screen freezes, and then my ping goes up to 3k+ after, and everything that happened between that span of time happens in 0.1 seconds. It is soo fucking gay. My internet is fine, and when i play other games, there isn't a lag spike. -_______-


This isn't really my area, but I'll take a stab: virus scan and driver updates. It sounds like a system call is grabbing a very core BGL and hanging, so everything gets blocked. The reason the game claims lag is that the network stack is ALSO blocked, so you're not receiving/sending packets. The only things I know of that live in the kernel and do naughty things like that are viruses and poorly-written drivers. You can also try defragging, but that's a longshot.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
April 18 2010 15:15 GMT
#2962
is there still the wards/pots/consumables mid-late game crash bug
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Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
April 18 2010 17:22 GMT
#2963
On Soraka I've been trying Sapphire -> Boots -> Locket -> Merc -> And then either Warden's Mail (if they have 4+ physical attackers), Leviathan (if they have 2 magical threats) or (rarely) Visage if they have more than 2 casters. It's been working really well.

I've considered skipping locket for Banshee if I encounter another hero with a longer or same ranged disable than my infuse...but that doesn't seem to happen too often; no one plays soraka at the noob levels where I currently am (just started playing LoL).

I heard the max cooldown reduction was 40%. Has anyone tried rushing shroud and frozen heart? Does it work? Getting to use silence every 9 second instead of 15 seems like a pretty big deal. Plus, I wouldn't need the locket if I can spam wish almost twice as often.
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
April 18 2010 17:37 GMT
#2964
On April 19 2010 02:22 Juicyfruit wrote:
On Soraka I've been trying Sapphire -> Boots -> Locket -> Merc -> And then either Warden's Mail (if they have 4+ physical attackers), Leviathan (if they have 2 magical threats) or (rarely) Visage if they have more than 2 casters. It's been working really well.

I've considered skipping locket for Banshee if I encounter another hero with a longer or same ranged disable than my infuse...but that doesn't seem to happen too often; no one plays soraka at the noob levels where I currently am (just started playing LoL).

I heard the max cooldown reduction was 40%. Has anyone tried rushing shroud and frozen heart? Does it work? Getting to use silence every 9 second instead of 15 seems like a pretty big deal. Plus, I wouldn't need the locket if I can spam wish almost twice as often.


If you want an early locket, you should really open mana manip and lane with someone who can take advantage of it. 7.5 mana/second is a BIG DEAL.

I don't think your other items are quite right, either, but I don't play Soraka.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-18 18:37:31
April 18 2010 18:31 GMT
#2965
On April 18 2010 18:45 mrgerry wrote:
Lol AP Corki


Actually funny enough, AP Corki was a significant reason why the game lasted 37 minutes; if he'd gone DPS he would have done absolutely no damage, because DPS = has to stay in range = I can kill. As it was, AP is weaker, but he was able to hammer us from afar, and so he was really tough for me to kill.

Edit:
If anything, their Udyr brought them down, because they needed an actual tank, not an off-tank. They pushed down our first towers really fast, while we basically scratched theirs. It looked pretty grim for a bit, but then we started landing hooks/I started getting some sick wall-offs and the game turned around in a hurry.
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Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-18 18:38:30
April 18 2010 18:35 GMT
#2966
wow ive never wanted to rage at this game before but i just lost to like the worst team ever due to my team continually bunching up and giving amumu/kennen/ryze instant quad kills

rage

went 16-10 as tristana and still no dice. at one point i aced their team by myself -_- how does matchmaking work
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
April 18 2010 19:00 GMT
#2967
On Soraka, instead of getting Locket I just get Soul Shroud. Teamwide CD reduc > pithy teamwide heal, IMO.
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Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
April 18 2010 20:40 GMT
#2968
On April 19 2010 04:00 Southlight wrote:
On Soraka, instead of getting Locket I just get Soul Shroud. Teamwide CD reduc > pithy teamwide heal, IMO.

The heal is NOT pitty, and it allows you to spamm it starcall inifitly. If you skip locket you skip a key item.
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Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-18 20:50:35
April 18 2010 20:45 GMT
#2969
On April 19 2010 02:37 oberon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 02:22 Juicyfruit wrote:
On Soraka I've been trying Sapphire -> Boots -> Locket -> Merc -> And then either Warden's Mail (if they have 4+ physical attackers), Leviathan (if they have 2 magical threats) or (rarely) Visage if they have more than 2 casters. It's been working really well.

I've considered skipping locket for Banshee if I encounter another hero with a longer or same ranged disable than my infuse...but that doesn't seem to happen too often; no one plays soraka at the noob levels where I currently am (just started playing LoL).

I heard the max cooldown reduction was 40%. Has anyone tried rushing shroud and frozen heart? Does it work? Getting to use silence every 9 second instead of 15 seems like a pretty big deal. Plus, I wouldn't need the locket if I can spam wish almost twice as often.


If you want an early locket, you should really open mana manip and lane with someone who can take advantage of it. 7.5 mana/second is a BIG DEAL.

I don't think your other items are quite right, either, but I don't play Soraka.


It's 7.2mana/5seconds. I don't consider it worthwhile especially because I get infuse early and max it first.

On April 19 2010 04:00 Southlight wrote:
On Soraka, instead of getting Locket I just get Soul Shroud. Teamwide CD reduc > pithy teamwide heal, IMO.


I want to try shroud more, but Locket is what helps you really push towers mid-game without having to put more than 1 point into starcall, since it heals minions as well. Plus, 50HP to every teammate every 3 seconds isn't negligible. I am going to try opening shroud and frozen heart more and see whether that helps setup for a better late-game.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-18 21:08:56
April 18 2010 21:06 GMT
#2970
With mana regen/level seal and glyphs and an early MM, I can spam my skills indefinitely without getting Locket and without needing to Infuse myself. Soul Shroud giving your team 15% CD reduc is pretty significant in team fights, and ofc as previously stated, her skills on CD reduc is quite handy for Infuse (both offense and protracted fights) and for healing speed.

On that note, I've completely dropped Dodge seals on mana-guzzling heroes now in favor of mregen/level seals; having both glyphs and seals makes it so I can spam spells with relative frequency even with Anivia despite not getting mana items until really late.

Edit:
As with my discussion about Taric with Mog before, it may be a playstyle issue. I level up Infuse very quickly, but not for the mana regen. I level it because it's a free harassment nuke and a silence. Because I play her as a nuking tank I end up finding Locket's effects negligible.
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Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
April 18 2010 21:53 GMT
#2971
On April 19 2010 00:12 oberon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2010 15:03 Gao Xi wrote:
Speaking of fucking rage, I can't even play because there's always a fucking lag spike that stays for 15~45 seconds where the screen freezes, and then my ping goes up to 3k+ after, and everything that happened between that span of time happens in 0.1 seconds. It is soo fucking gay. My internet is fine, and when i play other games, there isn't a lag spike. -_______-


This isn't really my area, but I'll take a stab: virus scan and driver updates. It sounds like a system call is grabbing a very core BGL and hanging, so everything gets blocked. The reason the game claims lag is that the network stack is ALSO blocked, so you're not receiving/sending packets. The only things I know of that live in the kernel and do naughty things like that are viruses and poorly-written drivers. You can also try defragging, but that's a longshot.


I did a virus scan with AVG, nothing. Could be the drivers though, but I have a relatively new computer <1 month old. I will try defragging though. Thanks for the help.
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mrgerry
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1508 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-18 22:00:02
April 18 2010 21:59 GMT
#2972
Locket is a mid game push item and its use starts to degrade after that. So if your a solo q and in a lower elo bracket expecting a 35+ min game just go more ap support focused builds with aegis/rylai's
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
April 18 2010 22:47 GMT
#2973
On April 19 2010 06:53 Gao Xi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 00:12 oberon wrote:
On April 18 2010 15:03 Gao Xi wrote:
Speaking of fucking rage, I can't even play because there's always a fucking lag spike that stays for 15~45 seconds where the screen freezes, and then my ping goes up to 3k+ after, and everything that happened between that span of time happens in 0.1 seconds. It is soo fucking gay. My internet is fine, and when i play other games, there isn't a lag spike. -_______-


This isn't really my area, but I'll take a stab: virus scan and driver updates. It sounds like a system call is grabbing a very core BGL and hanging, so everything gets blocked. The reason the game claims lag is that the network stack is ALSO blocked, so you're not receiving/sending packets. The only things I know of that live in the kernel and do naughty things like that are viruses and poorly-written drivers. You can also try defragging, but that's a longshot.


I did a virus scan with AVG, nothing. Could be the drivers though, but I have a relatively new computer <1 month old. I will try defragging though. Thanks for the help.


Have you ever updated the drivers? The drivers as shipped on a prebuilt machine are often quite out of date. I would strongly recommend Windows update and getting the latest graphics drivers.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
April 18 2010 22:53 GMT
#2974
how do i build anivia?
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
April 18 2010 23:19 GMT
#2975
On April 19 2010 00:15 HeavOnEarth wrote:
is there still the wards/pots/consumables mid-late game crash bug

Yes, but you can fix it by changing your settings to benchmark until next patch.

On April 19 2010 06:06 Southlight wrote:
With mana regen/level seal and glyphs and an early MM, I can spam my skills indefinitely without getting Locket and without needing to Infuse myself. Soul Shroud giving your team 15% CD reduc is pretty significant in team fights, and ofc as previously stated, her skills on CD reduc is quite handy for Infuse (both offense and protracted fights) and for healing speed.

On that note, I've completely dropped Dodge seals on mana-guzzling heroes now in favor of mregen/level seals; having both glyphs and seals makes it so I can spam spells with relative frequency even with Anivia despite not getting mana items until really late.

Edit:
As with my discussion about Taric with Mog before, it may be a playstyle issue. I level up Infuse very quickly, but not for the mana regen. I level it because it's a free harassment nuke and a silence. Because I play her as a nuking tank I end up finding Locket's effects negligible.

Actually, I've done the same, mana regen/level (or in my case, flat mana regen) is great, because I really want to spam skills at levels 1-6, and after that I intend to have a blue buff most of the time.

Dodge is kinda negligible in the long run, imo. You shouldn't be fighting melee characters with a carry anyway.
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pokeyAA
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States936 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-19 00:13:52
April 19 2010 00:12 GMT
#2976
I dunno, healing 250 HP and 100 MP every 3 seconds from locket is nothing to scoff at.

I havent tried rushing frozen heart yet now that the item recipe has been changed, though i haven't played Soraka in a long while haha.
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
April 19 2010 01:01 GMT
#2977
On April 19 2010 07:47 oberon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 06:53 Gao Xi wrote:
On April 19 2010 00:12 oberon wrote:
On April 18 2010 15:03 Gao Xi wrote:
Speaking of fucking rage, I can't even play because there's always a fucking lag spike that stays for 15~45 seconds where the screen freezes, and then my ping goes up to 3k+ after, and everything that happened between that span of time happens in 0.1 seconds. It is soo fucking gay. My internet is fine, and when i play other games, there isn't a lag spike. -_______-


This isn't really my area, but I'll take a stab: virus scan and driver updates. It sounds like a system call is grabbing a very core BGL and hanging, so everything gets blocked. The reason the game claims lag is that the network stack is ALSO blocked, so you're not receiving/sending packets. The only things I know of that live in the kernel and do naughty things like that are viruses and poorly-written drivers. You can also try defragging, but that's a longshot.


I did a virus scan with AVG, nothing. Could be the drivers though, but I have a relatively new computer <1 month old. I will try defragging though. Thanks for the help.


Have you ever updated the drivers? The drivers as shipped on a prebuilt machine are often quite out of date. I would strongly recommend Windows update and getting the latest graphics drivers.

Well, it was fine for like a week or two, but then in the past week it started doing it. However, i'll update my drivers just incase.

Is morde easy to learn? All the mordes i've seen play have been beasts, and they just utterly dominate.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
April 19 2010 01:36 GMT
#2978
Solo-mid Mord is annoying, but that's about the only place he's a "beast," and a solo-mid Mord won't usually help your team win :p
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Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
April 19 2010 01:41 GMT
#2979
On April 19 2010 10:36 Southlight wrote:
Solo-mid Mord is annoying, but that's about the only place he's a "beast," and a solo-mid Mord won't usually help your team win :p

Well i mean like hes soo hard to kill, and he seems to get easy kills during team fights, I don't know how hes good because he doesn't have stun/slow so I don't know how well he is at higher levels. But people who use him seem really good. Like the last time i played a pre-made with TL 5v5, this one guy used morde (forgot his name), even though we lost, morde still had like a beast record.
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oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
April 19 2010 02:16 GMT
#2980
I don't think Morde is that good. He takes some getting used to in lane because he's almost immune to harass, but burst harass will still get through. Endgame, he has no CC, moderate damage, and moderate tankability (his shield doesn't do much late game, and his only other defensive skill is his ult's healing). I used to have issues with him solo mid (with me as Sivir), but I'm fine against him now, and his extra cash/xp from the solo don't do his team much good.
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