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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
April 19 2010 02:18 GMT
#2981
He's relatively hard to kill, but without any disable, and a badly scaling set of damage output (he has two nukes, one of which scales with damage, one that scales with AP), he tends to not actually do much. Most of the time you'll see people just hit everything else because he's such a low threat. This is, of course, unless he's wildly fed and ahead. That's why he's only good solo mid, because he'll level and farm quickly, but a strong Mord also cannot really carry you (as he'll hit one person like a slow-moving truck), so it's like a "meh" in most games, IMO.

Of course, if you can lane with a strong support hero and you end up against a team with pinpoint burst, you'll be able to push down a lane really easily. That said, whatever lanemate you get will always be gold-starved cuz you push and kill creeps. So you usually screw over your teammate by being Mord.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-19 02:38:03
April 19 2010 02:33 GMT
#2982
Any suggestions for "fun" champions then?

Regarding my lag spike issue, apparently I'm not the only one with the problem. However, Riot does not have a direct fix for it. I guess it had something to do with the Kennen patch.
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=93247

Regarding my drivers, i tried to update it but it said it was up-to-date so...yeah.
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Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
April 19 2010 04:47 GMT
#2983
4 sunfire cape sorc boots guardian angel morde is prob the best build for him. and he can farm it quicker then you think...
Brees on in
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
April 19 2010 04:51 GMT
#2984
Reinstalled LoL, but still doesn't help. I am really surprised that I am the only one on TL to experience this problem. =/
It might be my computer cause I'm running windows 7 64-bit. But I'm still pretty sure its the game
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
April 19 2010 05:36 GMT
#2985
yea, I run 64 bit windows 7 and I'm fine.
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Shinshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1237 Posts
April 19 2010 05:51 GMT
#2986
Hmm can anyone compare specs to his...? Maybe they upped the specs with the kennen patch?

OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz (8 CPUs), ~2.7GHz
Main Memory: 6144MB RAM
VGA: ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2
VRAM: 3826 MB

If you want to compare to mine...
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Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
April 19 2010 05:56 GMT
#2987
DirectX Version: DirectX 11

OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_gdr.100226-1909)
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 860 @ 2.80GHz (8 CPUs), ~2.8GHz
Main Memory: 8192MB RAM

VGA: NVIDIA GeForce GT 230
VRAM: 1505 MB
Display Driver: nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um
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Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
April 19 2010 06:04 GMT
#2988
Morde is most effective in a 1v2 Lane. His Laningphase is his shining moment and it only goes downhill from there, he needs effort to stay viable. You don´t send him mid because then he just pushes the fuck out of ONE enemy and his ult isn´t as ganktastic as a classic solomiders like Annie.
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-19 06:06:45
April 19 2010 06:06 GMT
#2989
The Mordes I've seen get like 10+ kills with <2 deaths and a bunch of assists. Even when i was with a TL premade. Morde also seems like one of the funner tanks in the game. =o
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Baikinman
Profile Joined January 2010
United States74 Posts
April 19 2010 07:28 GMT
#2990
On April 19 2010 11:33 Gao Xi wrote:
Any suggestions for "fun" champions then?

Regarding my lag spike issue, apparently I'm not the only one with the problem. However, Riot does not have a direct fix for it. I guess it had something to do with the Kennen patch.
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=93247

Regarding my drivers, i tried to update it but it said it was up-to-date so...yeah.


If you have any lag problem but still want to play i would suggest Gangplank all you do is kill your own creep (your tank creep) and just ult in team fights. But most importantly b/c u lag all u can do is auto attack and gangplank is awsome at that. just stack crit + dmg item and let the auto attack and lag get u the kills. Very easy hero to play i was able to get positive record even with a 10 second lag + running into towers although i keep clicking back.

so yes.. if u lag but you want to play, the answer is gangplank.
はっひふっへほ~♪
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5459 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-19 07:58:59
April 19 2010 07:57 GMT
#2991
i've been tryhard smurfing and guess been moving up the elo ladder because i'm at lvl 11 i'm playing with lvl 30s who usually have around 300 wins and seem to know sorta what the fuck they are doing. anyways, that isn't my main point. it was just to create the premise that the guys i'm about to talk about aren't total noobs.

so today i solo que into a game and face TEAM CARRY. udyr, trist, ashe, teemo, nidalee. we didn't have much CC and they were absolutely raping us early game with their ridiculous damage (which shouldn't happen because they're all... carries). then we thought of a brilliant solution:

[image loading]stack them motherfucking thornmails. lolololol.
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Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
April 19 2010 07:58 GMT
#2992
On April 19 2010 16:28 Baikinman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 11:33 Gao Xi wrote:
Any suggestions for "fun" champions then?

Regarding my lag spike issue, apparently I'm not the only one with the problem. However, Riot does not have a direct fix for it. I guess it had something to do with the Kennen patch.
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=93247

Regarding my drivers, i tried to update it but it said it was up-to-date so...yeah.


If you have any lag problem but still want to play i would suggest Gangplank all you do is kill your own creep (your tank creep) and just ult in team fights. But most importantly b/c u lag all u can do is auto attack and gangplank is awsome at that. just stack crit + dmg item and let the auto attack and lag get u the kills. Very easy hero to play i was able to get positive record even with a 10 second lag + running into towers although i keep clicking back.

so yes.. if u lag but you want to play, the answer is gangplank.

The thing is i don't normally lag, and its lag spikes, and its really really disgusting. And it makes playing impossible. There are a few people with this problem. And Riot doesn't have a fix for it, which means i can't play.
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
April 19 2010 10:09 GMT
#2993
On April 19 2010 16:58 Gao Xi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 16:28 Baikinman wrote:
On April 19 2010 11:33 Gao Xi wrote:
Any suggestions for "fun" champions then?

Regarding my lag spike issue, apparently I'm not the only one with the problem. However, Riot does not have a direct fix for it. I guess it had something to do with the Kennen patch.
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=93247

Regarding my drivers, i tried to update it but it said it was up-to-date so...yeah.


If you have any lag problem but still want to play i would suggest Gangplank all you do is kill your own creep (your tank creep) and just ult in team fights. But most importantly b/c u lag all u can do is auto attack and gangplank is awsome at that. just stack crit + dmg item and let the auto attack and lag get u the kills. Very easy hero to play i was able to get positive record even with a 10 second lag + running into towers although i keep clicking back.

so yes.. if u lag but you want to play, the answer is gangplank.

The thing is i don't normally lag, and its lag spikes, and its really really disgusting. And it makes playing impossible. There are a few people with this problem. And Riot doesn't have a fix for it, which means i can't play.

You know, it's possible that it's a computer problem and you are all doing something wrong. Just because it happens during a game of LoL doesn't mean it's Riot's fault.

Kill all your background processes, like auto-updaters and calendars and basically anything that's not a core system process. You can shut explorer.exe while you're in game, too.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
suffeli *
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Finland772 Posts
April 19 2010 10:27 GMT
#2994
Use command prompt and type

ping www.leagueoflegends.com -t -l 1200

Reply from 66.151.63.150: bytes=1200 time=202ms TTL=52
Reply from 66.151.63.150: bytes=1200 time=202ms TTL=52
Reply from 66.151.63.150: bytes=1200 time=202ms TTL=52
Reply from 66.151.63.150: bytes=1200 time=202ms TTL=52
Reply from 66.151.63.150: bytes=1200 time=216ms TTL=52
Reply from 66.151.63.150: bytes=1200 time=201ms TTL=52
Reply from 66.151.63.150: bytes=1200 time=201ms TTL=52
Reply from 66.151.63.150: bytes=1200 time=202ms TTL=52
Reply from 66.151.63.150: bytes=1200 time=204ms TTL=52
Reply from 66.151.63.150: bytes=1200 time=202ms TTL=52
Reply from 66.151.63.150: bytes=1200 time=202ms TTL=52
Reply from 66.151.63.150: bytes=1200 time=203ms TTL=52
Reply from 66.151.63.150: bytes=1200 time=202ms TTL=52
Reply from 66.151.63.150: bytes=1200 time=200ms TTL=52

You should see if there is any lag going on, though the server ip is probably different.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-19 14:42:13
April 19 2010 14:29 GMT
#2995
On April 19 2010 15:04 Unentschieden wrote:
Morde is most effective in a 1v2 Lane. His Laningphase is his shining moment and it only goes downhill from there, he needs effort to stay viable. You don´t send him mid because then he just pushes the fuck out of ONE enemy and his ult isn´t as ganktastic as a classic solomiders like Annie.


Most 2v1 lanes would own his face, IMO, as his range prevents him from properly surviving double-stun and mass harassment, not to mention heals. I dunno, he seems like a decent pubstomp but he's just not a solid champion overall

Dunno what you mean by "fun" champions, though.

Edit:
By the way I dunno if that's really "team carry" as several of those heroes aren't very good at carrying

Udyr could have and should have built as a tank. I always do.
Teemo should have built AP. DPS Teemo is stupid and he's really a blind/slow bot in teamfights anyways.
And of course, Nidalee IMO should always be building AP anyways, but particularly on that team she would have much better served her team by being AP/heal.

Instead they all played selfish stupid and got owned by thornmail :p
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
April 19 2010 14:54 GMT
#2996
On April 19 2010 23:29 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 15:04 Unentschieden wrote:
Morde is most effective in a 1v2 Lane. His Laningphase is his shining moment and it only goes downhill from there, he needs effort to stay viable. You don´t send him mid because then he just pushes the fuck out of ONE enemy and his ult isn´t as ganktastic as a classic solomiders like Annie.


Most 2v1 lanes would own his face, IMO, as his range prevents him from properly surviving double-stun and mass harassment, not to mention heals. I dunno, he seems like a decent pubstomp but he's just not a solid champion overall

Dunno what you mean by "fun" champions, though.

Edit:
By the way I dunno if that's really "team carry" as several of those heroes aren't very good at carrying

Udyr could have and should have built as a tank. I always do.
Teemo should have built AP. DPS Teemo is stupid and he's really a blind/slow bot in teamfights anyways.
And of course, Nidalee IMO should always be building AP anyways, but particularly on that team she would have much better served her team by being AP/heal.

Instead they all played selfish stupid and got owned by thornmail :p

I personally think AP Teemo is no good after the nerf 3 months back, but hey, DPS Teemo is terrible too, so take your pick :D.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-19 14:58:26
April 19 2010 14:55 GMT
#2997
lol @ Baikin's post.


I'm starting to get a better feel for early game Pantheon. After getting completely dominated in a few games last week by ballsy early game Pantheons, I decided to take a harder look at what Pantheon can do in the laning phase.

At level 3, when you have all your skills, and a long sword to open, you do:
108 from Spear Shot
52.5 from Aegis
200 from Heartseeker
125 from Ignite

If they aren't packing a shit ton of armor, this means that you can pretty reliably kill an opponent at 400 Health with just your cycle of abilities, and if you add in an auto-crit from heartseeker, it's around 500. Since you can harass like crazy with spear shot, this is completely brutal early game and if your opponent isn't aware of how much damage you can do in a 2 second burst, you can get really really easy FBs. This number also grows really really fast with the growth of Heartseeker, by level 5, your burst has already grown to over 300 from just Heartseeker, which puts your pre-autocrit burst in the area of 600 damage. Once you do your first b and add in a brutalizer, things really start to get out of hand. I was covering mid against an Ashe one game last night where I was level 7 to her level 9 and after dancing back and forth in and out of range and taking a few volleys to the face, I hit her with my full burst (items were brutalizer and boots1) with her at full health and just killed her outright. It's pretty silly.

Basically, my early game with Pantheon has been too passive and focused on getting a BF Sword without really taking note of how much damage output he can get off of just his skills (especially with ignite thrown in there).

EDIT: AP Teemo is a nice-counter carry who gives a lot of map control and can neuter a ranged DPS who was counting on solo mid to farm up. He still mostly sucks, but I do think he could be a viable counterpick in competitive play.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-19 15:19:56
April 19 2010 15:17 GMT
#2998
AP Teemo is actually "okay" because he destroys most solo mid heroes (just switch up with someone else if they have a caster mid) and ruins their game, then further ruins any enemy carry's game by shrooming up their jungle, which gives you great map control. He's a far better version of Veigar, because most teams will reliably have at least one DPS carry that requires farming, as opposed to Veigar with whom you'll run into a stud mana-hog caster that's actually worth a hero devoted to killing once every ten games. Plus, now that his shrooms do full damage through Treads, parking up in their jungle(s) gives you both map control and follow-up ganking power, and rushing Rylai and/or cooldown reduc makes you even more irritating to play against. Obviously you have to carry Exhaust, and you can tell when there's a Teemo that doesn't understand what he's good for if you find a Teemo without Exhaust.

Edit:
Arr, basically what Mog said. I think he's quite viable if you're 4-5 queueing because you'll almost always run into another 4-5 queue with a "designated dri- carry." 7-8 second blind is pretty obnoxious when you Dart + Exhaust, and with CD Reduc you can get another blind off soon.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
April 19 2010 15:24 GMT
#2999
On April 19 2010 23:55 Mogwai wrote:
lol @ Baikin's post.


I'm starting to get a better feel for early game Pantheon. After getting completely dominated in a few games last week by ballsy early game Pantheons, I decided to take a harder look at what Pantheon can do in the laning phase.

At level 3, when you have all your skills, and a long sword to open, you do:
108 from Spear Shot
52.5 from Aegis
200 from Heartseeker
125 from Ignite

If they aren't packing a shit ton of armor, this means that you can pretty reliably kill an opponent at 400 Health with just your cycle of abilities, and if you add in an auto-crit from heartseeker, it's around 500. Since you can harass like crazy with spear shot, this is completely brutal early game and if your opponent isn't aware of how much damage you can do in a 2 second burst, you can get really really easy FBs. This number also grows really really fast with the growth of Heartseeker, by level 5, your burst has already grown to over 300 from just Heartseeker, which puts your pre-autocrit burst in the area of 600 damage. Once you do your first b and add in a brutalizer, things really start to get out of hand. I was covering mid against an Ashe one game last night where I was level 7 to her level 9 and after dancing back and forth in and out of range and taking a few volleys to the face, I hit her with my full burst (items were brutalizer and boots1) with her at full health and just killed her outright. It's pretty silly.

Basically, my early game with Pantheon has been too passive and focused on getting a BF Sword without really taking note of how much damage output he can get off of just his skills (especially with ignite thrown in there).

EDIT: AP Teemo is a nice-counter carry who gives a lot of map control and can neuter a ranged DPS who was counting on solo mid to farm up. He still mostly sucks, but I do think he could be a viable counterpick in competitive play.


haha Mogwai, remember that debate we had a long time ago about Brutalizer vs fast BT? :D
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
April 19 2010 15:40 GMT
#3000
yep...

for whatever it's worth, if you get the farm for fast BF sword, it's still better to do that than get brutalizer first, but as I've been moving up in elos, I've begun to realize the reality of farming up to it in a reasonable time frame. 1850 in your first laning period with just boots or 2200 if you open long sword is just not going to happen vs. most competent opposition :p... Brutalizer is just so much more manageable since you only need 1272 to get it and boots after a long sword opening, and you always want it at some point anyway since it's armor pen interacts with your best harass and best burst abilities.
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