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Gandalf
Profile Joined August 2004
Pakistan1905 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-08 19:32:13
April 08 2010 19:23 GMT
#2561
On April 08 2010 10:14 Shikyo wrote:
Hey, does anyone over here play LoL EU who'd like to play with me and my friend? We're lvl 22, 20, played a few weeks. He plays pretty much only Ashe, I play plenty but recently almost solely Tryndamere. Although people say Trynd is useless, I've been able to have greatly positive scores, and every time our 3 teammates don't suck, me and my friend pretty much carry us to victory. Even sometimes when we get totally owned we carry them. Oh right, and every time our 3 teammates are decent(positive k/d) we have totally absurd K/D/A's, and the only time they'll be negative is if the rest of our team feeds like crazy)

I'm something like 97 wins 87 losses, my friend's win% is similar. Note that it's actually a lot greater the last 15 games or so, early on we had maybe stuff like 20 wins 35 losses but we've improved and so on.

So yeah, if anyone on EU who's decent would like to play some games with us, post here ^_^ If TL has a clan or anything, I'd like to join. I'd love to play US but it has crazy bad ping for me, but yeah =)




I guess I'll talk a bit about random stuff and Trynd since no one likes him. I nearly always get Cleanse/Rally. I always get either Doran's shield or Brawler's glove things, and go for 3-4 early avarice blades(4 if I manage to farm enough for them before going back to base the first time, 3 if not. Normally if I use my first Rally early I get a second rally during the laning, along with my hp pots and heal and that lets me survive quite a bit). I then get infinity edge and bloodthirster, but with the ghostblade coming it that'll change to inf edge -> ghostblade -> bloodthirster. I always get lizard buff when possible, and when I have it I can actually do something in teambattles before crazy equips. With 4 avarices I get the rest of my equips really fast and then it's pretty crazy O_o

If my lane isn't super tough(Mundo + Shaco for instance, or Ryze + Annie... you know), I mostly like to have my lane partner go gank or something so I can lane 1v2 and that works just fine as trynd vs most lanes because of his Q skill's heal. If I'm able to do that I can get an inf edge after 4 avarices around 22-24 minutes, after which the opponents might be pretty screwed.

Early on people say Trynd is useless, however he can be of some use in the small skirmishes even with just his 3-4 avarices. He'll crit a plenty of time and his slow is still great. If you get the lizard buff early(I always get it the moment I have my avarices), you can even gank a little, although mostly it'll be just saving towers and such. After you have your inf edge and the avarices, the time is completely on your side and you'll be almost sure to win later in the game.

In team battles, my general strategy(with allies that don't suck) is to wait for the tank or initiator to initiate, after which I'll spin towards the closest squishy in their team(Ashe, Shaco, Annie, Ryze) and mocking shout, then attack them. If they have some stun or disable, I use my cleanse, although most of them should be spent on the tank / initiator. 99% of the squishies run around as I spin, and I get a slow off and then they die. If they don't run, they almost always die to my dps. After that, my crit procs have given me another spin, and I spin to another squishy and kill him as well, or if I'm low hp I ulti, hit a bit of stuff, then spin away and heal with Q. But basically, you want to spin from squishy to squishy and slow them when needed until only the tanks are left, after which you can concentrate on killing them. Mocking shout, although said to be an useless skill, really downs the DPS of the opposing team even if they only have a couple of DPS champions, and it generally slows at least a couple of them. I also almost always have a Lizard buff going, so the chasing won't be a problem.

Well... with an average 10/5/15 game that I can have in nearly all of my games where the allies aren't terrible, I'll normally have something like shoes, edge, bloodthirster, phantom edge, frozen mallet(banshee veil if needed, however cleanse can be enough if they don't specifically save their disables for you) at like 40 minutes into the game because of the Avarice blades. After that, and even before it(actually a Bloodthirster along with the edge and the avarices should be enough vs most teams) you can just spin around and kill stuff, always concentrating on the squishies, ignoring the tanks the best you can.

Huge problems are exhaust and Teemo, which... well, they counter nearly every champion. I guess you should just hope they use them on someone else, but if not, then your best bet is to try to... run or spin away and wait until the exhaust is over. However, that counters just about every DPS and it sucks, but well not much you can do about it(I don't think divine counters exhaust, if it does that'd be awesome).


Hmm that's quite a bit of crap >_> But anyway, if someone would like to play with me and my friend on EU, reply here ^^ doesn't matter if you're not awesome, we're not either, but you really shouldn't be a total nub (dps rammus no ty).


Me and two of my friends play on EU. I'm level 15, they're 23 and 21. Add us if you wanna play with us: dorky (me), geeky, and slutty. We usually play during the weekend, sometimes on a weekday.

Edit: If you leave your names, we'll add you!
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
April 08 2010 19:46 GMT
#2562
allright recently, I've started to play TF some because I really liek the way he is played since the rvamp ... the question is... what do I get when? I know I should get a mix for Malady / Sword of the divine / Guinsoo / Nashor's / LW...

I just dont know which order yet lol. SOmeone please help me out!
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Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
April 08 2010 19:53 GMT
#2563
i just saw a pretty good TF and his build was Tri-force, rageblade, nashor's tooth

makes sense and he was raping along with my AP rammus. zhonya active + tremor = LOLZ!11

got like a triple kill at baron it was great
Brees on in
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
April 08 2010 20:12 GMT
#2564
TF's my go to guy right now and I always open either boots or Doran's Sheild + health pots then build to either starks (if my team has at least 2 auto-attack reliant heros) or LW after boots1, then treads, then I follow up starks with BC or LW with IE.

The straight AS stacking builds are so very "meh" to me because his passive's AP ratio is garbs and it's only triggering every 4 attacks so you're better off treating the bonus damage as just a bonus and making the most of the attacks leading up to it after you get a quick recurve bow item.

The build Brees is suggesting is also viable, but it's very much about playing him like a halfway point between old TF (AP/Sheen abuse) and my TF (straight AS/AD). I don't even bother with the AP stuff because it just feels so gimped compared to old TF so I'd rather just take advantage of my free bonus 180 damage ever 4 attacks, +30% AS, and -15% CD redux alongside a solid stun and teleport, but again the hybrid build is viable. I think with the target items brees suggests, you would open mana crystal + HP pots, get boots1 and sheen, get treads and GRB, finish trinity force, get nashor's. The other issue I really have with this sort of build is that you want all of your skills to be leveled, so the skill ordering is difficult and you eat through your mana so fast.
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rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5459 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-09 02:28:58
April 09 2010 02:23 GMT
#2565
i've been having a lot of fun looking at http://www.lolbase.net/champions/statistics

some of the more interesting stats:
- gragas games have been recorded ~7000 times. ashe has ~54000.
- veigar, cho, and tryn have worst win/loss ratios while soraka, janna (?!), and taric have best
- master yi dies most often and tryn is top 4 in deaths despite ENDLESS RAGE!
- warwick takes the most dmg (hard melee dps lol)
- only 18 of the 49 heroes (37%) have positive kdr with twitch having the highest
- sivir has low kdr, avg assist rate, but high win/loss
- pirate loves gold and has an average crit of 926 (lol parley imba)
- on average soraka restores 28x more health then TF
- chogath (835!) and nunu (561) beat out shaco (543) for average crit dmg

obviously these aren't truly representative of the champs. for example, fiddle has a negative kdr, eve is in the upper half in terms of popularity, corki has some terrible statistics. but its interesting to see some of these stats.

edit: actually i'm really at a loss for how chogath crits so hard. anybody know?
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Biochemist
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1008 Posts
April 09 2010 02:31 GMT
#2566
On April 09 2010 11:23 redtooth wrote:
i've been having a lot of fun looking at http://www.lolbase.net/champions/statistics

some of the more interesting stats:
- gragas games have been recorded ~7000 times. ashe has ~54000.
- veigar, cho, and tryn have worst win/loss ratios while soraka, janna (?!), and taric have best
- master yi dies most often and tryn is top 4 in deaths despite ENDLESS RAGE!
- warwick takes the most dmg (hard melee dps lol)
- only 18 of the 49 heroes (37%) have positive kdr with twitch having the highest
- sivir has low kdr, avg assist rate, but high win/loss
- pirate loves gold and has an average crit of 926 (lol parley imba)
- on average soraka restores 28x more health then TF
- chogath (835!) and nunu (561) beat out shaco (543) for average crit dmg

obviously these aren't truly representative of the champs. for example, fiddle has a negative kdr, eve is in the upper half in terms of popularity, corki has some terrible statistics. but its interesting to see some of these stats.

edit: actually i'm really at a loss for how chogath crits so hard. anybody know?


You would get much more useful stats if you only collected data from top rated games. A hero who is popular with good players but requires an unusual amount of skill to be good at will probably get its stats trashed by newer players attempting to emulate the better ones.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5459 Posts
April 09 2010 02:41 GMT
#2567
On April 09 2010 11:31 Biochemist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2010 11:23 redtooth wrote:
i've been having a lot of fun looking at http://www.lolbase.net/champions/statistics

some of the more interesting stats:
- gragas games have been recorded ~7000 times. ashe has ~54000.
- veigar, cho, and tryn have worst win/loss ratios while soraka, janna (?!), and taric have best
- master yi dies most often and tryn is top 4 in deaths despite ENDLESS RAGE!
- warwick takes the most dmg (hard melee dps lol)
- only 18 of the 49 heroes (37%) have positive kdr with twitch having the highest
- sivir has low kdr, avg assist rate, but high win/loss
- pirate loves gold and has an average crit of 926 (lol parley imba)
- on average soraka restores 28x more health then TF
- chogath (835!) and nunu (561) beat out shaco (543) for average crit dmg

obviously these aren't truly representative of the champs. for example, fiddle has a negative kdr, eve is in the upper half in terms of popularity, corki has some terrible statistics. but its interesting to see some of these stats.

edit: actually i'm really at a loss for how chogath crits so hard. anybody know?


You would get much more useful stats if you only collected data from top rated games. A hero who is popular with good players but requires an unusual amount of skill to be good at will probably get its stats trashed by newer players attempting to emulate the better ones.
as i said, eve is in the top half of popularity and fiddle is negative kdr. those two alone should show how skewed the data is. but its interesting nevertheless.
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Biochemist
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1008 Posts
April 09 2010 03:06 GMT
#2568
On April 09 2010 11:41 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2010 11:31 Biochemist wrote:
On April 09 2010 11:23 redtooth wrote:
i've been having a lot of fun looking at http://www.lolbase.net/champions/statistics

some of the more interesting stats:
- gragas games have been recorded ~7000 times. ashe has ~54000.
- veigar, cho, and tryn have worst win/loss ratios while soraka, janna (?!), and taric have best
- master yi dies most often and tryn is top 4 in deaths despite ENDLESS RAGE!
- warwick takes the most dmg (hard melee dps lol)
- only 18 of the 49 heroes (37%) have positive kdr with twitch having the highest
- sivir has low kdr, avg assist rate, but high win/loss
- pirate loves gold and has an average crit of 926 (lol parley imba)
- on average soraka restores 28x more health then TF
- chogath (835!) and nunu (561) beat out shaco (543) for average crit dmg

obviously these aren't truly representative of the champs. for example, fiddle has a negative kdr, eve is in the upper half in terms of popularity, corki has some terrible statistics. but its interesting to see some of these stats.

edit: actually i'm really at a loss for how chogath crits so hard. anybody know?


You would get much more useful stats if you only collected data from top rated games. A hero who is popular with good players but requires an unusual amount of skill to be good at will probably get its stats trashed by newer players attempting to emulate the better ones.
as i said, eve is in the top half of popularity and fiddle is negative kdr. those two alone should show how skewed the data is. but its interesting nevertheless.


Of course. I didn't read that last paragraph carefully and missed that you were basically saying what I did. Sorry
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
April 09 2010 04:27 GMT
#2569
i played a game tonight were I was 0-4 mid with TF and my team was yelling at me to stop feeding (I kept like, hallucinating Ryze using his Flash and playing too ballsy cause of it, I swear that fucker was packing double flash) so then I switched with Teemo and ended up finishing the game 21-9, lawl.

the most annoying part of it was that I was playing with friends and the teemo was one of them and at the end of the game he was like, "see I totally ran it back for you."

I WAS 21-9-10, HE WAS 2-4-12!

Then he saw that on the end screen and shut up for the rest of the night :p
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
April 09 2010 05:37 GMT
#2570
On April 09 2010 11:23 redtooth wrote:
i've been having a lot of fun looking at http://www.lolbase.net/champions/statistics

some of the more interesting stats:
- gragas games have been recorded ~7000 times. ashe has ~54000.
- veigar, cho, and tryn have worst win/loss ratios while soraka, janna (?!), and taric have best
- master yi dies most often and tryn is top 4 in deaths despite ENDLESS RAGE!
- warwick takes the most dmg (hard melee dps lol)
- only 18 of the 49 heroes (37%) have positive kdr with twitch having the highest
- sivir has low kdr, avg assist rate, but high win/loss
- pirate loves gold and has an average crit of 926 (lol parley imba)
- on average soraka restores 28x more health then TF
- chogath (835!) and nunu (561) beat out shaco (543) for average crit dmg

obviously these aren't truly representative of the champs. for example, fiddle has a negative kdr, eve is in the upper half in terms of popularity, corki has some terrible statistics. but its interesting to see some of these stats.

edit: actually i'm really at a loss for how chogath crits so hard. anybody know?

go figure
soraka has not only the worst average k/d ratio, but also the highest win ratio
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5459 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-09 06:56:17
April 09 2010 06:52 GMT
#2571
On April 09 2010 14:37 azndsh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2010 11:23 redtooth wrote:
i've been having a lot of fun looking at http://www.lolbase.net/champions/statistics

some of the more interesting stats:
- gragas games have been recorded ~7000 times. ashe has ~54000.
- veigar, cho, and tryn have worst win/loss ratios while soraka, janna (?!), and taric have best
- master yi dies most often and tryn is top 4 in deaths despite ENDLESS RAGE!
- warwick takes the most dmg (hard melee dps lol)
- only 18 of the 49 heroes (37%) have positive kdr with twitch having the highest
- sivir has low kdr, avg assist rate, but high win/loss
- pirate loves gold and has an average crit of 926 (lol parley imba)
- on average soraka restores 28x more health then TF
- chogath (835!) and nunu (561) beat out shaco (543) for average crit dmg

obviously these aren't truly representative of the champs. for example, fiddle has a negative kdr, eve is in the upper half in terms of popularity, corki has some terrible statistics. but its interesting to see some of these stats.

edit: actually i'm really at a loss for how chogath crits so hard. anybody know?

go figure
soraka has not only the worst average k/d ratio, but also the highest win ratio
soraka makes sense because she's one of the best support. same with taric. but janna is sorta wtf. sivir's placement in w/l confirms that she's one of the best pushers. but i shouldn't look too much into it since zilean and warwick (wtf?) have abnormally high w/l too.
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-09 07:51:29
April 09 2010 07:50 GMT
#2572
On April 09 2010 11:23 redtooth wrote:
i've been having a lot of fun looking at http://www.lolbase.net/champions/statistics

some of the more interesting stats:
- gragas games have been recorded ~7000 times. ashe has ~54000.
- veigar, cho, and tryn have worst win/loss ratios while soraka, janna (?!), and taric have best
- master yi dies most often and tryn is top 4 in deaths despite ENDLESS RAGE!
- warwick takes the most dmg (hard melee dps lol)
- only 18 of the 49 heroes (37%) have positive kdr with twitch having the highest
- sivir has low kdr, avg assist rate, but high win/loss
- pirate loves gold and has an average crit of 926 (lol parley imba)
- on average soraka restores 28x more health then TF
- chogath (835!) and nunu (561) beat out shaco (543) for average crit dmg

obviously these aren't truly representative of the champs. for example, fiddle has a negative kdr, eve is in the upper half in terms of popularity, corki has some terrible statistics. but its interesting to see some of these stats.

edit: actually i'm really at a loss for how chogath crits so hard. anybody know?

I'm pretty sure they count feast as a crit, just saying because I know he doesn't crit for more than 500 even with lichbane, and also Nunu's consume is counted as a crit even though it only works on minions. When chogath feasts a minion it hits for 1k+AP.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
April 09 2010 07:55 GMT
#2573
I love how chogath tops out the "average damage taken" :D.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-09 08:12:18
April 09 2010 08:08 GMT
#2574
On April 09 2010 16:50 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2010 11:23 redtooth wrote:
i've been having a lot of fun looking at http://www.lolbase.net/champions/statistics

some of the more interesting stats:
- gragas games have been recorded ~7000 times. ashe has ~54000.
- veigar, cho, and tryn have worst win/loss ratios while soraka, janna (?!), and taric have best
- master yi dies most often and tryn is top 4 in deaths despite ENDLESS RAGE!
- warwick takes the most dmg (hard melee dps lol)
- only 18 of the 49 heroes (37%) have positive kdr with twitch having the highest
- sivir has low kdr, avg assist rate, but high win/loss
- pirate loves gold and has an average crit of 926 (lol parley imba)
- on average soraka restores 28x more health then TF
- chogath (835!) and nunu (561) beat out shaco (543) for average crit dmg

obviously these aren't truly representative of the champs. for example, fiddle has a negative kdr, eve is in the upper half in terms of popularity, corki has some terrible statistics. but its interesting to see some of these stats.

edit: actually i'm really at a loss for how chogath crits so hard. anybody know?

I'm pretty sure they count feast as a crit, just saying because I know he doesn't crit for more than 500 even with lichbane, and also Nunu's consume is counted as a crit even though it only works on minions. When chogath feasts a minion it hits for 1k+AP.

Yes, i remember reading somewhere that feast - if deals killing hit - is counted as a crit for 2x champions max hp (2x so that poppy isn't immune to this)

Cool stats Redtooth btw. And lol what soraka restoring 28x more health than TF - does leeching count as restoring hp then?
Sivir low kdr + high w/l is exactly something you'd expect of her btw, good girl ;p
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
April 09 2010 08:09 GMT
#2575
On April 09 2010 04:23 Gandalf wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 08 2010 10:14 Shikyo wrote:
Hey, does anyone over here play LoL EU who'd like to play with me and my friend? We're lvl 22, 20, played a few weeks. He plays pretty much only Ashe, I play plenty but recently almost solely Tryndamere. Although people say Trynd is useless, I've been able to have greatly positive scores, and every time our 3 teammates don't suck, me and my friend pretty much carry us to victory. Even sometimes when we get totally owned we carry them. Oh right, and every time our 3 teammates are decent(positive k/d) we have totally absurd K/D/A's, and the only time they'll be negative is if the rest of our team feeds like crazy)

I'm something like 97 wins 87 losses, my friend's win% is similar. Note that it's actually a lot greater the last 15 games or so, early on we had maybe stuff like 20 wins 35 losses but we've improved and so on.

So yeah, if anyone on EU who's decent would like to play some games with us, post here ^_^ If TL has a clan or anything, I'd like to join. I'd love to play US but it has crazy bad ping for me, but yeah =)




I guess I'll talk a bit about random stuff and Trynd since no one likes him. I nearly always get Cleanse/Rally. I always get either Doran's shield or Brawler's glove things, and go for 3-4 early avarice blades(4 if I manage to farm enough for them before going back to base the first time, 3 if not. Normally if I use my first Rally early I get a second rally during the laning, along with my hp pots and heal and that lets me survive quite a bit). I then get infinity edge and bloodthirster, but with the ghostblade coming it that'll change to inf edge -> ghostblade -> bloodthirster. I always get lizard buff when possible, and when I have it I can actually do something in teambattles before crazy equips. With 4 avarices I get the rest of my equips really fast and then it's pretty crazy O_o

If my lane isn't super tough(Mundo + Shaco for instance, or Ryze + Annie... you know), I mostly like to have my lane partner go gank or something so I can lane 1v2 and that works just fine as trynd vs most lanes because of his Q skill's heal. If I'm able to do that I can get an inf edge after 4 avarices around 22-24 minutes, after which the opponents might be pretty screwed.

Early on people say Trynd is useless, however he can be of some use in the small skirmishes even with just his 3-4 avarices. He'll crit a plenty of time and his slow is still great. If you get the lizard buff early(I always get it the moment I have my avarices), you can even gank a little, although mostly it'll be just saving towers and such. After you have your inf edge and the avarices, the time is completely on your side and you'll be almost sure to win later in the game.

In team battles, my general strategy(with allies that don't suck) is to wait for the tank or initiator to initiate, after which I'll spin towards the closest squishy in their team(Ashe, Shaco, Annie, Ryze) and mocking shout, then attack them. If they have some stun or disable, I use my cleanse, although most of them should be spent on the tank / initiator. 99% of the squishies run around as I spin, and I get a slow off and then they die. If they don't run, they almost always die to my dps. After that, my crit procs have given me another spin, and I spin to another squishy and kill him as well, or if I'm low hp I ulti, hit a bit of stuff, then spin away and heal with Q. But basically, you want to spin from squishy to squishy and slow them when needed until only the tanks are left, after which you can concentrate on killing them. Mocking shout, although said to be an useless skill, really downs the DPS of the opposing team even if they only have a couple of DPS champions, and it generally slows at least a couple of them. I also almost always have a Lizard buff going, so the chasing won't be a problem.

Well... with an average 10/5/15 game that I can have in nearly all of my games where the allies aren't terrible, I'll normally have something like shoes, edge, bloodthirster, phantom edge, frozen mallet(banshee veil if needed, however cleanse can be enough if they don't specifically save their disables for you) at like 40 minutes into the game because of the Avarice blades. After that, and even before it(actually a Bloodthirster along with the edge and the avarices should be enough vs most teams) you can just spin around and kill stuff, always concentrating on the squishies, ignoring the tanks the best you can.

Huge problems are exhaust and Teemo, which... well, they counter nearly every champion. I guess you should just hope they use them on someone else, but if not, then your best bet is to try to... run or spin away and wait until the exhaust is over. However, that counters just about every DPS and it sucks, but well not much you can do about it(I don't think divine counters exhaust, if it does that'd be awesome).


Hmm that's quite a bit of crap >_> But anyway, if someone would like to play with me and my friend on EU, reply here ^^ doesn't matter if you're not awesome, we're not either, but you really shouldn't be a total nub (dps rammus no ty).


Me and two of my friends play on EU. I'm level 15, they're 23 and 21. Add us if you wanna play with us: dorky (me), geeky, and slutty. We usually play during the weekend, sometimes on a weekday.

Edit: If you leave your names, we'll add you!



I play on EU as well. My nick is solgryn or otasolgryn. I play mainly blitz and have won 45 and lost 19 with him. My alt is Shaco, but I'm still noob with him.

ps. I once played trynd as well. I tried so many things because his ulti is so cool, but he just does not cut the slack imo. But I'll gladly play with you guys and see you in action, if we get to higher elo. Would love trynd to be viable.
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Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-09 08:43:21
April 09 2010 08:34 GMT
#2576
On April 09 2010 15:52 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2010 14:37 azndsh wrote:
On April 09 2010 11:23 redtooth wrote:
i've been having a lot of fun looking at http://www.lolbase.net/champions/statistics

some of the more interesting stats:
- gragas games have been recorded ~7000 times. ashe has ~54000.
- veigar, cho, and tryn have worst win/loss ratios while soraka, janna (?!), and taric have best
- master yi dies most often and tryn is top 4 in deaths despite ENDLESS RAGE!
- warwick takes the most dmg (hard melee dps lol)
- only 18 of the 49 heroes (37%) have positive kdr with twitch having the highest
- sivir has low kdr, avg assist rate, but high win/loss
- pirate loves gold and has an average crit of 926 (lol parley imba)
- on average soraka restores 28x more health then TF
- chogath (835!) and nunu (561) beat out shaco (543) for average crit dmg

obviously these aren't truly representative of the champs. for example, fiddle has a negative kdr, eve is in the upper half in terms of popularity, corki has some terrible statistics. but its interesting to see some of these stats.

edit: actually i'm really at a loss for how chogath crits so hard. anybody know?

go figure
soraka has not only the worst average k/d ratio, but also the highest win ratio
soraka makes sense because she's one of the best support. same with taric. but janna is sorta wtf. sivir's placement in w/l confirms that she's one of the best pushers. but i shouldn't look too much into it since zilean and warwick (wtf?) have abnormally high w/l too.

Worst kill death ratio? Not nessescarily. On TT I've had soaka go 8-2-12 once something equally crazy. (Had fully stacked rod of ages, Zhonya's and innervating locket, then Wish heals for an absurd amount of health because it scales soo well).

Also guys, what is the best combo you played / could imagine being played on TT? Most dominant i tried was Soraka / Ryze / Jax. Soraka and Ryze reduces MR which cause them and Jax to do more damage. Ryze + Jax initial nuke will get someone down and then most of the time ryze will live to do another nuke while jax goes trigger happy with heals.
In the woods, there lurks..
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
April 09 2010 10:21 GMT
#2577
On April 09 2010 17:34 Iplaythings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2010 15:52 redtooth wrote:
On April 09 2010 14:37 azndsh wrote:
On April 09 2010 11:23 redtooth wrote:
i've been having a lot of fun looking at http://www.lolbase.net/champions/statistics

some of the more interesting stats:
- gragas games have been recorded ~7000 times. ashe has ~54000.
- veigar, cho, and tryn have worst win/loss ratios while soraka, janna (?!), and taric have best
- master yi dies most often and tryn is top 4 in deaths despite ENDLESS RAGE!
- warwick takes the most dmg (hard melee dps lol)
- only 18 of the 49 heroes (37%) have positive kdr with twitch having the highest
- sivir has low kdr, avg assist rate, but high win/loss
- pirate loves gold and has an average crit of 926 (lol parley imba)
- on average soraka restores 28x more health then TF
- chogath (835!) and nunu (561) beat out shaco (543) for average crit dmg

obviously these aren't truly representative of the champs. for example, fiddle has a negative kdr, eve is in the upper half in terms of popularity, corki has some terrible statistics. but its interesting to see some of these stats.

edit: actually i'm really at a loss for how chogath crits so hard. anybody know?

go figure
soraka has not only the worst average k/d ratio, but also the highest win ratio
soraka makes sense because she's one of the best support. same with taric. but janna is sorta wtf. sivir's placement in w/l confirms that she's one of the best pushers. but i shouldn't look too much into it since zilean and warwick (wtf?) have abnormally high w/l too.

Worst kill death ratio? Not nessescarily. On TT I've had soaka go 8-2-12 once something equally crazy. (Had fully stacked rod of ages, Zhonya's and innervating locket, then Wish heals for an absurd amount of health because it scales soo well).

Also guys, what is the best combo you played / could imagine being played on TT? Most dominant i tried was Soraka / Ryze / Jax. Soraka and Ryze reduces MR which cause them and Jax to do more damage. Ryze + Jax initial nuke will get someone down and then most of the time ryze will live to do another nuke while jax goes trigger happy with heals.

Yes, worst k/d ratio because you want your carry to get the kill
nataziel
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Australia1455 Posts
April 09 2010 11:20 GMT
#2578
Had the three worst games of TT just now. Fuck I hate this game sometimes, we were all lagging since we're all from australia and it cost us two of the games. Simple commands just take forever to come out, it's ridiculous. FSD:LKJ:SDLJF:SLDJKF
u gotta sk8
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
April 09 2010 11:45 GMT
#2579
On April 09 2010 17:34 Iplaythings wrote:
Also guys, what is the best combo you played / could imagine being played on TT? Most dominant i tried was Soraka / Ryze / Jax. Soraka and Ryze reduces MR which cause them and Jax to do more damage. Ryze + Jax initial nuke will get someone down and then most of the time ryze will live to do another nuke while jax goes trigger happy with heals.

Your list is seriously soraka/ryze/jax over mundo/sion/anyone?
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
April 09 2010 12:05 GMT
#2580
On April 09 2010 20:45 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2010 17:34 Iplaythings wrote:
Also guys, what is the best combo you played / could imagine being played on TT? Most dominant i tried was Soraka / Ryze / Jax. Soraka and Ryze reduces MR which cause them and Jax to do more damage. Ryze + Jax initial nuke will get someone down and then most of the time ryze will live to do another nuke while jax goes trigger happy with heals.

Your list is seriously soraka/ryze/jax over mundo/sion/anyone?

Hehe, yeah mundo and sion are very powerful on TT. I usually like getting as 3. char something like nidalee or shaco for additional "free wards". Especially Nid since number of bushes helps with her passive and her traps can counter enemy's wards very well.

However i mostly play annie and fiddle so i use them on TT as well - annie has very good survivability and good burst so i consider her quite nice choice here and fiddle actually depend on enemy team partially - if they are not warding he is awesome because there are so many places to ult from and you can just go to jungle to farm and enemy team won't know if you are ambushing them or not. Plus dark wind is more effective in 3v3 team battles than in 5v5 ofc and obviously fear is a b1tch no matter what


But from chars i don't play if i wanted pure ownage i would pick something like sion/mundo/poppy (or cho). Poppy is so good on this map as well even though i don't play her i like seeing poppy being used
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