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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
September 27 2012 13:46 GMT
#1381
On September 27 2012 22:33 seRapH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 22:29 PassiveAce wrote:
How should I build my Tankgineer? im currently mid teens and planning a defensive build that focus' on onehanded weapons with shield mixing in engi summon spells (healbot, gunbot, that golem thing) with mostly aegis skills like forcefield overload and dynamo. Are there any "one-point wonder" skills that I should definitely pick up? Which aegis skills are actually worth putting points in? im really afraid of dumping points into something that will be useless later.

Does this sound like a build that would be useful/useless? What stats should I pump with this build?

Shield bash is amazing. With a strong shield it does a lot of damage, has stun chance, and lowers attack speed at a really nice mana efficiency. I'd probably make sure to get rid of flame hammer, since you're going to want your charges for other skills.

Stats you'll want plenty of vitality, obviously, and strength at a close second. Around a 2:2:1 ratio should be fine.

Thanks man!
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Uhlan
Profile Joined April 2010
United States51 Posts
September 27 2012 13:49 GMT
#1382
This game is really fun. I've never played a diablo-esque game before so this is new to me, and AMAZINGLY entertaining.

Can you change the difficulty once you've started a playthrough? It's a tad bit too easy on normal.
Swish 41
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany154 Posts
September 27 2012 13:54 GMT
#1383
On September 27 2012 22:49 Uhlan wrote:
This game is really fun. I've never played a diablo-esque game before so this is new to me, and AMAZINGLY entertaining.

Can you change the difficulty once you've started a playthrough? It's a tad bit too easy on normal.


Reroll on Veteran.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
September 27 2012 13:54 GMT
#1384
Yes, start a multiplayer game and you have the option to change the difficulty.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
September 27 2012 14:41 GMT
#1385
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what's the function of this slot and how do i use it?
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Trotim
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany95 Posts
September 27 2012 14:50 GMT
#1386
On September 27 2012 19:45 valaki wrote:Then I read somewhere about the most OP build ever, and guess what it is? 1 point in Prismatic bolt.

Some of the early skills are too strong. Prismatic Bolt, Healbot, Blast Cannon and the Berserker's short-charge-that-heals-and-shatters-shields I think are just too strong. I have nothing against feeling overpowered but these go too far, are too mandatory for any build. (Except maybe Blast Cannon because it's so specific but it's still dominating.)

On September 27 2012 23:41 oneofthem wrote:
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what's the function of this slot and how do i use it?

Press Tab to switch between those two skills (they're RMB). You can also press , and . to cycle through your RMB skills... just check the options for controls, there's a lot of handy keys
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
September 27 2012 14:51 GMT
#1387
Nothing is mandatory in a single player game. If they inhibit your fun don't use them ^_^
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
September 27 2012 15:07 GMT
#1388
I eat mana pots like a fat kid eats candy in this game.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
September 27 2012 15:23 GMT
#1389
How many fame level are there (or how many bonus skillpoints)?
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
September 27 2012 15:28 GMT
#1390
On September 28 2012 00:23 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
How many fame level are there (or how many bonus skillpoints)?

32.

Here's a handy doc with tips: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eVAI6aolxOQsqwyoVeCPoDDnRWw0APzG0FLGEH38_os/edit

Question: have you guys noticed if any skills can Fumble? If skills can't fumble, I feel like they have a leg up on AA's.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11856 Posts
September 27 2012 15:47 GMT
#1391
I dont think they can, it says on the description of fumble specifically "basic attacks" or something like that. And i can't remember seeing a skill fumble, either.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
September 27 2012 15:51 GMT
#1392
I have never had a spell fumble so im just gonna say they cant.
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rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-27 16:10:55
September 27 2012 16:04 GMT
#1393
Been running my Engi for like 10-15 lvls on this sword and board, going to be sad seeing them go. Love this game, tho its eating up all my time! but the loot is so good!

[image loading]

Also, is anyone else having trouble with steam? i can play games, but cant check achievements or even see anything on the main page, its just writing/links, no pictures or anything.
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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
September 27 2012 18:57 GMT
#1394
Been messing around with the console a bit, testing things out for my cannoneer.
  • Spells can sort of fumble; it only ever happens if your damage/level is too low.

  • HP/Mana/-Armor on hit do not work with most spells (Blast Cannon, Flame Hammer), but works with other spells on a case-by-case basis (Mage's Magma Mace only one I've found).

  • -Armor does affect Physical Skills (Tested Flame Hammer, Blast Cannon).

  • If a weapon has Physical/Magical damage, both Focus and Strength increase its damage. Strength increases it's damage much more than Focus (even if the weapon has a higher amount of magic damage, like this one).

  • If a weapon has only Magical damage, both Focus and Strength increase its damage, at a similar rate.

  • Spells that only say something like "XX Physical Damage" or "Inflicts XX% of your Weapon DPS", with no mention of an element, are not affected by Focus at all.

  • %Attack Speed increases damage of scaling spells (Inflicts XX% of your Weapon DPS as X), because attack speed bumps up your DPS. %Cast Speed increases spell speed.

  • Strength is much much much better than Dex at increasing damage across the spectrum (source).

The implications for a Cannoneer that mainly uses Blast Cannon is that on-hit affixs are useless; Attack Spd/Cast Speed are ways to improve DPS. Focus is not needed at all, as summons+Cannon will do all damage. If tanky enough, you won't need the dodge from Dex, and since Fumble is nonexistant, can safely pump STR all the way.

The fact that there is a lot of hidden information in Torchlight 2 is both intriguing and infuriating at times; I was worried that since a lot of high level weapons have elemental damage, that my engy would be gimped with 0 focus, but luckily system is well designed
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
September 27 2012 19:17 GMT
#1395
That's some good info there gj dude

And ya there is barely any reason to make Dex in TL2 to boost your damage, dex is more useful for people going for 75% dodge cap, some higher crit chance (you need high atk speed for this) and capable for equipping high dex requirement weapon.
This whole thing somehow made outlander in a weird spot (read here if you are interested).

My outlander stats are 200+ for str/dex and 100+ for focus/vit but before adding stats boost gears, they are something like 80 str, 120 dex, 60 focus, 50vit so i actually have some room to come back as a high focus glaivelander (currently at lvl63 and have 30+ stats points unspent). I really don't like the idea of getting high tier weapon is irrelevant to my glaivelander, i want to see shiny high dps weapon works well with me but glaivelander only needs +% poison damage weapon.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
September 27 2012 19:25 GMT
#1396
Most of the beserker skills work with on hit effects. It's funny when you get 5k armor while you use Ravege because of shred armor, and you become invulnerable in such a situation while you wind up because of battlerage. Of course, it only makes you immune to physical damage (at least the armor stacking) so you still have to not stand in the fire sadly.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-27 20:04:11
September 27 2012 20:03 GMT
#1397
anyone know why my brothers game crashes whenever he enters a dungeon? he had to stop playing with me because of it.


we sorted out the lag issue by having him and his cable internet connection run first into an area and spawn the mobs, making him upload to me.


But now we are in the temple swamp map and he crashes when entering any dungeon, overland maps are fine oO.
Even if i enter the map first with no problems, he still crashes.
We have the exact same files, its really confusing.

We also completed a dungeons earlier with no problems.
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
September 27 2012 20:22 GMT
#1398
[image loading]

Quick question. I just got this gem at like.. level 15 and I'm wondering if I should save it for later to slot into a money farming outfit or something since the $$$ I'm getting right now is probably insignificant in the long run. Also there's an orange gem which I got at like level 10 which increases my frost damage by 15%, since I'm a frost embermage should I also save this gem for later?
Yacobs
Profile Joined March 2010
United States846 Posts
September 27 2012 20:28 GMT
#1399
Why save gems for later? You can just slot them now and then reclaim them when you're done with the armor.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-27 20:32:16
September 27 2012 20:31 GMT
#1400
6% gf gem is actually is the highest i have seen lol iirc this gem can drop in any level, i got a 4% gf gem in some 60+lvl map. You can use it on some decent 'common' gear that you knew you will use it for some time but will defo get a better one later, defo keep the gem. For other gems just use them because you will get better gems later, much much better gem.

edit: you can get the gem back by destroying the gear or the other around, there is a twins in town can do that
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
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