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Bear in mind SC BW is my main time sink... | ||
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My room mates (and many friends) were addicted to that game. AAaaaaaah ain't nothing like some smash... | ||
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EchOne
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On January 18 2014 18:48 puppykiller wrote: We just got my old copy of smash in my new house and my roomate and I have been playing it. He play's marth exclusively where I play mostly samus and falco. Neither of us can wave dash, though we can both short hop most of the time depending on our character and I can L cancel air smashes and falls decently, whats the next thing I should learn so that he never beats me? :D Bear in mind SC BW is my main time sink... I think if you haven't been incorporating DI, you should start practicing that. Other than that... when I play Marth I get really frustrated when a Samus or Falco has a crisp projectile game, letting them apply pressure and making it difficult to get in on them. So yeah I guess practice missile canceling and shffling lasers. | ||
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I've seen him vs kage, some IC and green ranger | ||
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On January 19 2014 03:32 ain wrote: Wtf my twitch chat disappeared. Can't even see a chat window. What's up with that? Twitch chat being twitch chat. This has been a bug for a ridiculously long time. Just try to reload or it might randomly decide to show up. | ||
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On January 18 2014 18:48 puppykiller wrote: We just got my old copy of smash in my new house and my roomate and I have been playing it. He play's marth exclusively where I play mostly samus and falco. Neither of us can wave dash, though we can both short hop most of the time depending on our character and I can L cancel air smashes and falls decently, whats the next thing I should learn so that he never beats me? :D Bear in mind SC BW is my main time sink... You have chosen two really technical characters to play. I know next to nothing about samus, I just know people say she's pretty technical, but here's some tips for Marth and Falco.  Both of you should learn to wavedash and shffle consistently. That's like the fundamental fundamentals of smash movement. Your friend should practice dash dancing and chaingrabs. When he learns to chaingrab you're not going to want to play him anymore. He could also try stuff like short hop double fair, but that's not a super important move to know. One of the top marths in the US, Ken, recently put up a 2 hour tutorial for marth. It's on youtube, you'll find it. Falco is a pretty technical character and you might have to put in some time to make him really usable. For both Fox and Falco waveshining is crucial. You should also use to short hop(fast fall) laser. Marth is really dangerous for Falco because of his grab and you're pretty much gonna need to use your laser to keep him at bay. Both of these can feel pretty daunting in the beginning(especially waveshining) but give it a few hours worth of practice and you're going to be able to start incorporating it in your game and then you can practice by just playing your friend. Basic combo stuff like pillaring(jumping from shine into dair) should also definitely be practiced. If you wanna go really technical you could practice shield pressure. That shit is pretty hard, but it's fun to use in matches and is one of Falcos greatest strengths. You can short hop laser into your opponent, and either they eat the laser and you get a combo or they shield it and you get to use some of Falcos super scary shield pressure. It's basically a mix of shines, multi-shines(canceling your shine into a jump and canceling the jump animation into another shine), shffld areals cancled into shines and an odd jab or tilt. Multi-shining is one of these pretty useful tools that isn't crucial for your game, so definately make sure you know the more basic stuff before you go into that. Marth is not as technical, but your friend could practice powershielding your lasers if he wants to practice some tough stuff. It's actually not as hard as you would think(even though it's really hard to do consistently) and you feel like a badass when doing it in a match. It's good for your matchup too, since it can be really hard for Marth to play around Falco's lasers. Good tool to have. A tips for practicing tech is to learn the name entry glitch. If you bring up the menue for choosing names(in the character select screen, just press the name of your selected character), hold B and press A just when the screen is about to go back to the regular menue. If you do this while you only have one character selected you can play alone on the level of your choosing. Then you can jump around and try stuff without being botherd by bots. Even this takes a bit of practice though. Pretty sure it's frame perfect, but it becomes second nature after a while. And a very general advice for Falco vs Marth. Priority number one is not getting grabbed as Falco. You're gonna be in a world of hurt(as long as your friend knows how to chaingrab). Fuck this made me feel like playing. Gonna boot up the old cube and practice some moves. If you're wondering anything else, feel free to ask. I'm far from the best player in the world but I main Fox so I could probably help you out with some of the technical aspects of the game since Fox and Falco have very similar advanced techniques. Unless of course this post helped to discourage you from playing Falco. Which it probably did. But he's a darn good and cool character once you know the basics. I'd say that he's probably one of the best characters in the game for like technical newbies. If you know his basic stuff it can be really hard to counter for players of equal skill. SHL(short hop laser) in combination with his amazing combo game can be hard to handle. | ||
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