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We have created an irc channel (#tl-smash on Quakenet) for people to find others to play with on Dolphin or just to chat about Smash. Feel free to join!
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
January 10 2014 08:04 GMT
#881
On January 10 2014 05:50 SheaR619 wrote:
I am thinking of getting into Project M, for anyone that played it, is it a good game? Does it feel enough like Melee or still feels slow?


I actually just got Project M on my Wii for the first time today. First impression was really good, really nice trying out all the characters and seeing what they are capable of. I was pretty amazed by Mario and how he actually seems to be a good character finally.
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-Kaiser-
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada932 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-10 09:25:44
January 10 2014 09:25 GMT
#882
Mario's fireballs are ridiculous. I can't play Fox vs Mario for shit in PM.
3 Hatch Before Cool
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
January 10 2014 14:30 GMT
#883
On January 10 2014 18:25 -Kaiser- wrote:
Mario's fireballs are ridiculous. I can't play Fox vs Mario for shit in PM.


Plus, dat dash attack to utilt combo. I love PM Mario.

Having played Melee for several years competitively, it hurts me to say this but it's true: Project M is a better game than Melee.
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SheaR619
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2399 Posts
January 10 2014 18:10 GMT
#884
ty all for the replies, it seems I will be giving PM a chance. It definitely seems like it has alot of potential, wouldnt Nitendo do something about it or does it not break any term of agreement?
I may not be the best, but i will be some day...
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
January 10 2014 19:43 GMT
#885
Is PM something I could set up on Dolphin on my computer, or do I have to do it on my Wii? If the latter, I can't find any non-hackless guides to setting it up. I already have my Wii homebrewed and I don't think I'd have to go through the entire hackless process, right?
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Atheros
Profile Joined January 2011
United States84 Posts
January 10 2014 19:58 GMT
#886
I recently set up project m on my computer and it works great. Online play through Dolphin netplay also works way better than wifi on the wii. The only annoying part for Dolphin is getting the brawl .iso but its not very hard. Reddit has a really good guide for setting up the netplay version for Dolphin.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-10 20:02:11
January 10 2014 20:01 GMT
#887
On January 11 2014 03:10 SheaR619 wrote:
ty all for the replies, it seems I will be giving PM a chance. It definitely seems like it has alot of potential, wouldnt Nitendo do something about it or does it not break any term of agreement?


The PMBR (Project M Back Room) is putting the game together completely devoid of profit - they're doing it cuz they loved Melee and wanted to adapt the Brawl cast into a better looking, similar playing version of Melee. Also, if you're playing the hackless version of P:M, you need to buy the Brawl disc anyway, so Nintendo is almost certainly getting a non-negative amount of profits from the PMBR

Nintendo does, though, hate the fact that smash is competitive in any sense. They hate (and as far as I know, do not support at all) any smash tournaments.

Also, Olimar is batshit insane in P:M
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
-Kaiser-
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada932 Posts
January 11 2014 07:00 GMT
#888
On January 11 2014 05:01 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 03:10 SheaR619 wrote:
ty all for the replies, it seems I will be giving PM a chance. It definitely seems like it has alot of potential, wouldnt Nitendo do something about it or does it not break any term of agreement?


The PMBR (Project M Back Room) is putting the game together completely devoid of profit - they're doing it cuz they loved Melee and wanted to adapt the Brawl cast into a better looking, similar playing version of Melee. Also, if you're playing the hackless version of P:M, you need to buy the Brawl disc anyway, so Nintendo is almost certainly getting a non-negative amount of profits from the PMBR

Nintendo does, though, hate the fact that smash is competitive in any sense. They hate (and as far as I know, do not support at all) any smash tournaments.

Also, Olimar is batshit insane in P:M


How are people playing him? We have someone on the BC PR trying to play Olimar in PM and I can pretty much autopilot the matchup with sheik.
3 Hatch Before Cool
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
January 12 2014 15:19 GMT
#889
On January 11 2014 05:01 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 03:10 SheaR619 wrote:
ty all for the replies, it seems I will be giving PM a chance. It definitely seems like it has alot of potential, wouldnt Nitendo do something about it or does it not break any term of agreement?
Nintendo does, though, hate the fact that smash is competitive in any sense. They hate (and as far as I know, do not support at all) any smash tournaments.


Recently Prog has hinted at Nintendo getting interested to help with tournaments and such. Probably it's just Smash4, but hopefully it's Melee as well.
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
January 12 2014 21:27 GMT
#890
so PM looks kind of cool after finally having a chance to watch it being played live

I'm very sad that my wii is MIA now
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-13 20:38:02
January 13 2014 14:07 GMT
#891
On January 11 2014 16:00 -Kaiser- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 05:01 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On January 11 2014 03:10 SheaR619 wrote:
ty all for the replies, it seems I will be giving PM a chance. It definitely seems like it has alot of potential, wouldnt Nitendo do something about it or does it not break any term of agreement?


The PMBR (Project M Back Room) is putting the game together completely devoid of profit - they're doing it cuz they loved Melee and wanted to adapt the Brawl cast into a better looking, similar playing version of Melee. Also, if you're playing the hackless version of P:M, you need to buy the Brawl disc anyway, so Nintendo is almost certainly getting a non-negative amount of profits from the PMBR

Nintendo does, though, hate the fact that smash is competitive in any sense. They hate (and as far as I know, do not support at all) any smash tournaments.

Also, Olimar is batshit insane in P:M


How are people playing him? We have someone on the BC PR trying to play Olimar in PM and I can pretty much autopilot the matchup with sheik.


Shiek was actually the only matchup I've really struggled with so far. I'm not sure if I was just doing it wrong, or if Olimar really is at a big disadvantage in that MU. Her hitboxes just last forever and reach very far. Also, Olimar was very easy to chaingrab at low %s, and even some medium %s if I messed up DI.

I'm not sure how other people are playing him, I'm still learning him. But up smash comes out incredibly fast and hits very hard (especially with purple pikmin). I kinda play him a bit like I'd play Peach if I had a constant supply of turnips that followed me around.

Side B has great zoning and range potential with the different kinds of Pikmin, and his forward and back aerials are quick and reach pretty far in comparison to his size.


edit: My biggest complaint about Olimar is his down B. I get it's meant to cycle Pikmin, and someone who uses it effectively can play optimally. But it just feels like such a waste of time to even try to use, and the delay on hit really sucks.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-13 22:24:44
January 13 2014 22:24 GMT
#892
I'm pretty sure that sheik can't chaingrab in PM.
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
January 13 2014 22:31 GMT
#893
I heard M2K hates PM Sheik (and thinks Link and Wolf are top-tier )

though he plays Mario/Fox in PM so I dunno
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
January 13 2014 22:36 GMT
#894
On January 14 2014 07:31 ]343[ wrote:
I heard M2K hates PM Sheik (and thinks Link and Wolf are top-tier )

though he plays Mario/Fox in PM so I dunno


P:M shiek feels really bonkers, tbh

On January 14 2014 07:24 Zoler wrote:
I'm pretty sure that sheik can't chaingrab in PM.


entirely possible that I was just screwing up - I'm very rusty
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 13 2014 22:36 GMT
#895
Did you mean marth or mario?
M2K 4-stocked some guy in the finals of an NA event yesterday as marth I think, though he played fox for the rest of the series.
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Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
January 13 2014 23:20 GMT
#896
god damn sung at SSS yesterday... suddenly i feel like i should learn shield dropping

(http://www.twitch.tv/leveluplive/b/494816373 starts around 7:50:xx)
-Kaiser-
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada932 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-14 05:26:46
January 14 2014 03:10 GMT
#897
On January 14 2014 07:24 Zoler wrote:
I'm pretty sure that sheik can't chaingrab in PM.


Sheik can CG Olimar like twice or thrice with DI at 0%.
3 Hatch Before Cool
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
January 14 2014 08:50 GMT
#898
On January 14 2014 08:20 Kyuukyuu wrote:
god damn sung at SSS yesterday... suddenly i feel like i should learn shield dropping

(http://www.twitch.tv/leveluplive/b/494816373 starts around 7:50:xx)

I learned how to shield-drop fairly consistently on emulator vs people since I was playing a bunch of dolphin netplay

which is unfortunate because I fucked it up 9/10 times in real live situation
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
January 14 2014 17:13 GMT
#899
On January 14 2014 17:50 d3_crescentia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2014 08:20 Kyuukyuu wrote:
god damn sung at SSS yesterday... suddenly i feel like i should learn shield dropping

(http://www.twitch.tv/leveluplive/b/494816373 starts around 7:50:xx)

I learned how to shield-drop fairly consistently on emulator vs people since I was playing a bunch of dolphin netplay

which is unfortunate because I fucked it up 9/10 times in real live situation


I can do it kinda consistently in terms of putting my shield up and dropping. Linking it to an aerial for some reason is like this impossible task where my aerial isn't even close to being fast enough to actually hit anybody.
-Kaiser-
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada932 Posts
January 15 2014 09:38 GMT
#900
As Roby said in the BC smash thread:

"People who shield drop consistently practice all day by themselves naked in their room" or something to that effect.
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