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oscar62
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada417 Posts
January 28 2013 00:24 GMT
#601
melee is in 1st place now by about 100 dollars.
24k raised so far from each game.

gonna come down to the wire, really hope melee gets it
DorF
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden961 Posts
January 30 2013 17:11 GMT
#602
I donated twice, really hope we got this !
BW for life !
Yomi-no-Kuni
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany333 Posts
February 01 2013 02:15 GMT
#603
http://www.twitch.tv/vgbootcamp
official donation drive for melee @ evo!
help out a great cause (breast cancer research) and support super smash bros. melee!

So far Armada has been on the stream, apparently Ken will be on later and lots of give-aways and cool stuff!

gogo smashbros!
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 01 2013 02:37 GMT
#604
Protips for Fox vs Jigglypuff please. My worst matchup.

My gameplan is to stay in the middle and be as safe as possible and spam when I can. Which leads into me getting in some free hits but dying really easily if I do get hit. Pretty helpless against WoP unless I just run in and gamble with shield / usmash / grab / shine and hope they don't perform the correct counter.

Screwed offstage at low %. At high % I am able to tech if they are slow with their fastfalling, or if I manage to side B into a platform cancel if I succeed at it. Maybe some recovery tips would be sweet.

Basically my problem is I need to land like 10 hits before I get a kill because she's so floaty and I need to shine for safety after everything due to being afraid of rest and grabs and CCC while the jigglypuff needs to land 1-2 and that already leads into my death. Also when she camps off the side of the stage I have no idea what to do, it's such a risk to go there, though I've managed to repeatedly shinespike them to death a few times in that situation.



Also SSBM looking like the winner especially if ST gets "disqualified" as it seems.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
2xNoodle
Profile Joined May 2012
United States201 Posts
February 01 2013 08:49 GMT
#605
I had never heard of competitive gaming until, one day, I was watching Survivor Gabon and some kid named Ken comes on and introduces himself as a "professional video game player". I looked him up, saw some match footage on Youtube, found out about MLG, and have become a huge competitive gaming/eSports fan since. Congrats Smashers on unofficially winning the donation drive!
Former Senior Editor for ROOT Gaming | https://twitter.com/2xNoodle
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
February 01 2013 08:58 GMT
#606
melee wins the donation drive

I hope the community will take this opportunity and do great things at evo2k13

as for Fox v Jiggs, I think you really just have to be very, very patient in the matchup. I feel like it can be very stage dependent - large stages with short ceilings are better (PS, FD); small stages can go either way but reduce your ability to camp. obviously never go to dream land; battlefield is probably the worst after that imo since recovering is a pain on top of the small stage size which can help jiggs camp the ledge. I think fullhop nair->shine used to be a decent option if you ever actually wanted to approach but honestly you're better off if you force them to commit to approaching you.
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
oscar62
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada417 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 10:13:47
February 01 2013 10:05 GMT
#607
donation drive was insane

http://www.twitch.tv/vgbootcamp/b/362806914

theres the stream for the final hour of donations and sniping

melee raised 94k, SG got 78k i believe, ST got 40k.

over 200k raised in total for breast cancer research

Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 16:27:35
February 01 2013 16:22 GMT
#608
On February 01 2013 17:58 d3_crescentia wrote:
melee wins the donation drive

I hope the community will take this opportunity and do great things at evo2k13

as for Fox v Jiggs, I think you really just have to be very, very patient in the matchup. I feel like it can be very stage dependent - large stages with short ceilings are better (PS, FD); small stages can go either way but reduce your ability to camp. obviously never go to dream land; battlefield is probably the worst after that imo since recovering is a pain on top of the small stage size which can help jiggs camp the ledge. I think fullhop nair->shine used to be a decent option if you ever actually wanted to approach but honestly you're better off if you force them to commit to approaching you.

Why no Dreamland? Good recovery options for Fox with easy techs end f-B to ledges, Rest gimps are greatly reduced in effectiveness, Blaster spam is easy, the center of the stage is huge so it's easier to avoid getting gimped. Also if I get shine spikes the easier recovery doesn't even matter and Jigglypuff dies up quickly even here. DL64 is one of my favorites against Jigglypuff. Hate Battlefield, though.

So yeah I guess I need to just play as lame as possible and spam Blaster. *Yawns* I've indeed been doing fulljump nair into shine sometimes, mostly canceling the shine into grab. Also been doing run in -> shine -> grab and jump -> shine -> jump away, but it indeed feels smarter just to wait for Jigglypuff to commit because then it feels much easier to attack her. She can't even crouch SHDL.



Also I've been practicing the flatland jump cancel shine infinite against Captain Falcon. Feels tournament-viable with a bit more practice.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
oscar62
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada417 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 20:03:10
February 01 2013 19:58 GMT
#609
by infinite are you referring to shining them across the stage and then drilling to turn it around?

it's really easy to SDI it when you turn them around. i would just recommend 1-2 waveshines, into a short hop drill for extra damage, and then waveshine usmash/grab for the finish.
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 20:03:20
February 01 2013 20:02 GMT
#610
On February 02 2013 01:22 Shikyo wrote:Why no Dreamland?


Puff just doesn't die on Dreamland... high ceiling, wide sides mean puff can survive to pretty high %
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d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
February 01 2013 20:14 GMT
#611
DL64 isn't as bad as I thought it was; it was more of a kneejerk reaction to stages. I'd probably never pick DL against a jiggs, but if they wanted to go there I'd probably give it to them. it is harder to kill jiggs on, I suppose it's better for fox's survivability as well, so I guess it's reasonable if your plan is to play super obnoxiously and outcamp jiggs.
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 01 2013 20:43 GMT
#612
On February 02 2013 05:02 ]343[ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 01:22 Shikyo wrote:Why no Dreamland?


Puff just doesn't die on Dreamland... high ceiling, wide sides mean puff can survive to pretty high %

I don't think that's important enough to outweigh the good things for Fox in that stage, though. In most of my games that's sort of a non-factor, it's really difficult to get past Fox's mobility from above / diagonally above him. Even if you need to bair 10 times in a row that's totally fine. I actually think Dreamland is one of the better stages for Fox in most matchups, even against Peach I prefer it over FoD and FD.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
February 01 2013 21:11 GMT
#613
I loved this game back a few years back.
My Puff wasn't too bad too.
But it's hard finding players to play with.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
February 02 2013 20:00 GMT
#614
On February 02 2013 06:11 Noocta wrote:
I loved this game back a few years back.
My Puff wasn't too bad too.
But it's hard finding players to play with.


I'm pretty sure France has a very active competitive scene with tournaments at least twice a month or so!
Writer
oob
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden630 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-11 16:20:27
March 11 2013 16:19 GMT
#615
Just had a small tournament in Norway. Me and a buddy got first in teams. Got the recording if anyone's interested, Im the Peach.




And soon it's time for Beast! Hell yeah!
Happiest man on earth
Yomi-no-Kuni
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany333 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-26 09:17:29
March 26 2013 09:16 GMT
#616
yeah, another TL user going to Beast
I'm from germany, I'll be there to

edit: so who are you? I know tonberry, heard of Dev (think i met him already), but don't know the other two
oob
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden630 Posts
March 26 2013 10:46 GMT
#617
Im Kuja, old school swedish smasher. I ahven't really made any big things in the community so no wonder you dont know me. DJ Black is a norwegian player, pretty good aswell! Dev is a "RL" friend and we team when our other friend, Nedech, ain't coming.

Sweet that you're coming to Beast, who are you?
Happiest man on earth
Yomi-no-Kuni
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany333 Posts
March 26 2013 10:58 GMT
#618
I'm Yomi :D
decent, but not amazing german player. I think most avid tourney players know me.
I lost to Nedech at Beast 1, but barely made it into the bracket.
oob
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden630 Posts
March 27 2013 07:37 GMT
#619
Sweet! I'll see if I can find you :D
Happiest man on earth
Yomi-no-Kuni
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany333 Posts
April 01 2013 22:46 GMT
#620
Just 2 more days until i'll get boing. It you're there early,i'm looking for people ti play with go get warmed up. Didnt get to practice alot beforehand
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