EPTWhat did you think about Leffen following the rules during doubles again SFAT and Scar?
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oob
Sweden630 Posts
What did you think about Leffen following the rules during doubles again SFAT and Scar? | ||
]343[
United States10328 Posts
Dr. PP (MARTH!) vs Armada (Peach) www.twitch.tv/8wayrun | ||
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + 1. Armada (Peach, Young Link vs. HBox) 2. Dr. Peepee (Falco, Marth vs. Armada) 3. Mew2King (Sheik) 4. Mango (Falco/Fox) 5/6. Hungrybox (Jigglypuff), Shroomed (Dr. Mario) 7/8. Hax (C. Falcon), KirbyKaze (Sheik) | ||
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darkmetal505
United States639 Posts
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Infernal_dream
United States2359 Posts
On January 14 2013 13:09 darkmetal505 wrote: Wow, crazy GFs. Can't wait for VODs of the whole event. Very impressed with pp's marth. Even with the three Suicides in the first match of the first set. | ||
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Spiffeh
United States830 Posts
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
On January 14 2013 11:40 oob wrote: Anyone watching Apex? What did you think about Leffen following the rules during doubles again SFAT and Scar? can't complain too much about rules, but very few other players would've done that On January 14 2013 13:17 Infernal_dream wrote: Very impressed with pp's marth. Even with the three Suicides in the first match of the first set. I think he's been preparing his Marth for a while now  It showed! Too bad Armada is basically unbeatable  Also, M2K > Mango twice was certainly unexpected | ||
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Infernal_dream
United States2359 Posts
On January 14 2013 14:53 ]343[ wrote: can't complain too much about rules, but very few other players would've done that I think he's been preparing his Marth for a while now It showed! Too bad Armada is basically unbeatable Also, M2K > Mango twice was certainly unexpected Armada definitely switched his playstyle with peach between those two sets. Crazy to see from extreme defense to offense in no time at all. That last stock fight was great. Good grabs and then one good aerial dodge by armada and he just put the pain on. | ||
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Lucumo
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darkmetal505
United States639 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
I'd have wished PP to win, I don't get why his Marth worked so well. Armada's supposed to never lose to Marths. I also don't think Falco vs Peach is a bad matchup so I guess he just didn't know it too well(Didn't see his games vs Armada so tough to say). It also is pretty sad that most people still don't space properly against crouch cancel possibilities. It's as if that aspect hasn't evolved at all in 4 years. | ||
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KonekoTyriin
United States60 Posts
On January 14 2013 15:21 darkmetal505 wrote: What exactly happened with Leffen? I didn't catch much of early part of the tourney. In a team match (Scar and... lozr? vs Leffen and Ice), Scar lost a life and mashed start, thinking it was his last and wanting to steal a life as soon as possible. He still had a life, though, so he accidentally paused. When he unpaused as though to continue playing the set, Leffen paused and called for the rules. The ruleset for the tournament had an explicit stipulation for this occurrence: the opposing team may deem one stock of the offending player forfeit. Leffen claimed that right, and Scar had to throw away his last stock. The crowd made loud angry boos when Leffen and Ice won the match. The commentators basically agreed that the correct decision was made on the grounds that the rules are there to be followed. One complicating factor of note is that the vast majority of team tournaments have pause turned OFF in the options, so that this kind of thing can't happen at all. In this tournament, the pause is on as a safeguard against equipment malfunction or an actual emergency, so that the state of the set can be maintained while technical issues are resolved. It's still an open question for future tournaments whether to enable pause or not. | ||
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Arolis
United States496 Posts
On January 14 2013 15:33 Shikyo wrote: Sigh, I really wish characters like Peach and Jigglypuff weren't good enough for being playable. Also I feel like Fox is quite overrated and Sheik is underrated. Very few players play these characters close to optimally. I'd have wished PP to win, I don't get why his Marth worked so well. Armada's supposed to never lose to Marths. I also don't think Falco vs Peach is a bad matchup so I guess he just didn't know it too well(Didn't see his games vs Armada so tough to say). It also is pretty sad that most people still don't space properly against crouch cancel possibilities. It's as if that aspect hasn't evolved at all in 4 years. What do you have against Peach and Jigglypuff? I think it's nice that different styles of characters are viable at the top and not just speedy face smashers like Fox and Marth. Do you dislike their style of play? Their floatiness? Do you think the characters are cheap and rely on gimmicks instead of straight up face smashing like the other top tier? Do you hate the pace of the game when these characters are in control of the match? | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On January 14 2013 15:52 Arolis wrote: What do you have against Peach and Jigglypuff? I think it's nice that different styles of characters are viable at the top and not just speedy face smashers like Fox and Marth. Do you dislike their style of play? Their floatiness? Do you think the characters are cheap and rely on gimmicks instead of straight up face smashing like the other top tier? Do you hate the pace of the game when these characters are in control of the match? They promote camping and only getting a single hit off, the gameplay with one of these characters in the match is going to be way slower, games also last longer. It's almost like brawl. Especially Peach with her crouch canceling makes most pressure stupid or impossible, and because the risk-reward ratio of comboing and shield pressuring her is so skewed especially if you play someone like a fastfaller, you only want to get surefire hits in and play incredibly safe. Jigglypuff's sort of the same deal, her crouch cancel punishes are the best in the game along with Peach(different functions) so you're basically relegated to hitting her off the air and grabbing her. Again promotes really safe and slow-paced play. Not to mention she's countered by stuff like Young Link and Young Link vs Jigglypuff is the fourth-most boring matchup in the game after Peach-Peach, Jiggly-Jiggly, and Peach-Jiggly. | ||
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
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matiK23
United States963 Posts
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
On January 14 2013 15:46 KonekoTyriin wrote: In a team match (Scar and... lozr? vs Leffen and Ice), I think it was Scar + SFAT? (Lozr is from NC and teams with PP) | ||
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itkovian
United States1763 Posts
I used to play it all the time with my friends. I was great with Marth. Never really got into brawl the same way, it felt too clunky and messy. | ||
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Infernal_dream
United States2359 Posts
On January 15 2013 06:30 itkovian wrote: This game still has a competitive scene? That's pretty cool. I used to play it all the time with my friends. I was great with Marth. Never really got into brawl the same way, it felt too clunky and messy. They got rid of most of the things that made melee good. They also slowed the game down massively. | ||
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Yakal
Canada1 Post
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