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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
February 12 2015 07:48 GMT
#2261
I believe we need another norcal vs. socal crew battle to solve this dispute. Make it happen TL
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-12 09:59:17
February 12 2015 09:34 GMT
#2262
2012 socal was better
2013 norcal was better
2014 socal was better
2015 norcal seems to be better so far
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
February 12 2015 12:18 GMT
#2263
Socal will always be better in crew battles though. Norcal got the best top 3 atm, but Socals skill goes way deeper like even top 20 is really good.
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 12 2015 12:28 GMT
#2264
Is mango considered socal?
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 12 2015 16:23 GMT
#2265
On February 08 2015 23:41 TyrionSC2 wrote:
Well yesterday was the tournament series (Salty Smash Saturdays - West Chester, PA) that I host and it literally doubled in attendance (19 to 38).
TO Johns are so real jesus. I don't know how nintendude and armada do it to a much higher degree of skill and # of entrants.
I learned a lot of small things about TOing yesterday in regards to seeding and even streaming events with commentary.

Also I'm really bad at dealing with being camped. I need to not lose my cool while being camped and being baited into bad approaches. Oh well.

Results
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1) Metal Reeper
2) Son2
3) Velocity
4) Zodiac
5) Widl
5) TRK

I live in Philly so I'm going to try to start going to this I've heard great things! Keep it up!
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
tRuE008
Profile Joined March 2009
United States54 Posts
February 12 2015 17:38 GMT
#2266
It's true that Socal has a deeper line up, but I've been watching the foundry...
and it seems like most of Norcal players are not that far behind. Norcal players do well against PPU, SFAT, and Shroomed.
I think it is the lack of participation from most Norcal players in tournaments.

Hopefully, there is a Norcal vs. Socal crew battle at NCR, and maybe it excludes the Gods.
Plus, Alan said he trying to get a round robin with only the Gods in it. That will be hype.
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
February 12 2015 18:37 GMT
#2267
well in the commentary at the foundry someone (i forget who) stated that norcal's top 3 actively sandbag at those tournaments
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
Nickemwit
Profile Joined December 2007
United States253 Posts
February 12 2015 19:08 GMT
#2268
NorCal won the last crew battle 4v5
Fight Fire with ShrieK
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-12 20:40:58
February 12 2015 20:39 GMT
#2269
While Norcal won the last crew battle, Socal's top 15 or so are clearly deeper than Norcal's top 15. Norcal's top 3, or 4 if you include Lord, can definitely hang with Socal's best, but Norcal's 5-10 range is certainly a bit weaker right now. On the other hand I'm pretty confident that Norcal's 5-10 > any non-Socal region's 5-10.

But even that's changing! I think Norcal has a lot of people who have the drive to get better. Laudandus is improving super fast, Toph is playing much more consistently, Bizzarro Flame is actually getting even better despite spamming dair/utilt/warlock punch in every non-important set, L is starting to get more consistent... I think gaR / Delphiki / NMW (hi) are also constantly improving their game. (and I hope Leon is too, but it doesn't seem like he's playing that much atm...) And that's just the ranked people. Ralph, Anson, Nhat, and a bunch of other slightly-below-ranked people are also gonna be major threats soon.

I do hope that the longtime ranked guys (Brandon, Jeff, Sheridan, etc) can show some tangible improvement soon--not to say that they're not amazing players, but I think they're sort of plateauing.
Writer
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
February 16 2015 07:26 GMT
#2270
Socal is the true stacked region it hink

Everyone from 1-20 (and probably more) are all really, really good players
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
February 16 2015 07:38 GMT
#2271
the real question is why does AZ have so many good players I mean who even lives there jesus whats up with that

but yeah SoCal more stacked imo
LiquidDota Staff
TL+ Member
porkRaven
Profile Joined December 2010
United States953 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-16 08:04:37
February 16 2015 08:01 GMT
#2272
I just picked this game up a little bit ago, when can I start playing these stages? nsfw + Show Spoiler +
SHOUTOUTS TO Aylear!!!
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1969 Posts
February 17 2015 07:06 GMT
#2273
wtf is that?
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
February 17 2015 08:37 GMT
#2274
On February 17 2015 16:06 Just_a_Moth wrote:
wtf is that?

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/people/billy-herrington-gachimuchi
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
TyrionSC2
Profile Joined November 2010
United States411 Posts
February 18 2015 13:17 GMT
#2275
On February 13 2015 01:23 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2015 23:41 TyrionSC2 wrote:
Well yesterday was the tournament series (Salty Smash Saturdays - West Chester, PA) that I host and it literally doubled in attendance (19 to 38).
TO Johns are so real jesus. I don't know how nintendude and armada do it to a much higher degree of skill and # of entrants.
I learned a lot of small things about TOing yesterday in regards to seeding and even streaming events with commentary.

Also I'm really bad at dealing with being camped. I need to not lose my cool while being camped and being baited into bad approaches. Oh well.

Results
-------------
1) Metal Reeper
2) Son2
3) Velocity
4) Zodiac
5) Widl
5) TRK

I live in Philly so I'm going to try to start going to this I've heard great things! Keep it up!


Sweet!! Make sure to say something to me when you come! The next event will be on Feb 28th. btw. It conflicts with shots fired which is kinda sad but oh well. I'm going to make an event page and post it in the local melee groups later today!
Headshot
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1656 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-18 19:04:26
February 18 2015 19:04 GMT
#2276
I'm back with another Falco tech question.

In this match vs Wizzrobe at Apex, how does PPMD do the jumping shines to chase Wizzrobe on the platforms as demonstrated from 4:17-4:21? I've tried to replay it over and over to analyze it, but I can't tell if he's wavelanding onto the platform and then shining, or jumping into shine and then landing.

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BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
February 18 2015 19:58 GMT
#2277
jumping into shine then doublejump wavelanding

it's actually a really basic falco thing, it's how you get the stupidly long combos with falco
Fazers
Profile Joined August 2013
737 Posts
February 18 2015 20:24 GMT
#2278
Hey Headshot, I had this problem a few months ago.

You just have to shine then waveland (in place, generally). But the shine should be such that it hits the opponent on platform but not at the position where you're on platform, just slightly below.
TyrionSC2
Profile Joined November 2010
United States411 Posts
February 18 2015 21:58 GMT
#2279
On February 19 2015 04:04 Headshot wrote:
I'm back with another Falco tech question.

In this match vs Wizzrobe at Apex, how does PPMD do the jumping shines to chase Wizzrobe on the platforms as demonstrated from 4:17-4:21? I've tried to replay it over and over to analyze it, but I can't tell if he's wavelanding onto the platform and then shining, or jumping into shine and then landing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWQrk7qUMN8



Watch this video at this time - It goes in detail explaining how to shine waveland




Headshot
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1656 Posts
February 19 2015 01:22 GMT
#2280
I thought I had watched every Falco tech vid on YouTube, but I guessed I missed that one. Thank you, guys! For some reason it never occurred to me to just waveland in place the second jump after a shine. That makes so much more sense.
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