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We have created an irc channel (#tl-smash on Quakenet) for people to find others to play with on Dolphin or just to chat about Smash. Feel free to join!
jinyung2
Profile Joined November 2014
Luxembourg1455 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-14 05:50:47
January 14 2015 05:44 GMT
#2181
i usually monitor standing still and first jump. allows me to practice things like moving asap after an aerial/throw or anything really I always felt like I lost time in between things and didn't move fast enough, and the first jump is for practicing fast aerials like insta uair (esp oos) and nair oos.

edit: and if you are doing anything specific you can monitor the steps for it too. I guess with falcon those are the main two I usually have on while practicing general movement while comboing a character (I'll usually have the character i combo on player 2 since it has the random di and tech and then add in like a third cpu usually a kirby and have it monitor the other stuff) before though I had some issues with doing ledge nair not fast enough so I practiced that with ledge drop and 2nd jump as the 2 things being monitored.
Argentina
Iway
Profile Joined December 2011
France163 Posts
January 14 2015 15:07 GMT
#2182
Hey,

i have the 20xx pack, and i really want to improve in melee, but i don't know how to use it/ what to start with. Any idea, tutorial ? i'd like to improve with falcon.
Fazers
Profile Joined August 2013
735 Posts
January 14 2015 15:27 GMT
#2183
On January 14 2015 10:08 jinyung2 wrote:
20xx frame counter has been AMAZING. I really feel like its made my falcon movement much better

yeah I don't miss L-cancels in practice nor vs other players now. Also my shield pressure game is getting there...=)

How do you use the frame counter? I turned it on in Debug Menu but nothing popped up. o.o
jinyung2
Profile Joined November 2014
Luxembourg1455 Posts
January 14 2015 22:00 GMT
#2184
if you go to gameplay codes ( i think thats the one? it should say frame counter: on/off) you can turn it on. basically how you use it is:
1. L+R d-pad left will set the first % to 999%. 999% = the % which you are going to program an action to count frames for.
2. to program an action, you use that action and freeze during it using d-pad up
3. press L+R d-pad left again and then unfreeze and it'll move the 999% to the next % and you can program another action or just skip it with L+R d-pad left. when you use the action you programmed now it'll count the frames on the % you programmed it at.

as I said in previous post I almost always program standing still and first jump and just practice movement/combing on random DI cpu. Helps me praticing moving asap after aerial and throws and using instant nair and uair.
Argentina
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-15 14:34:05
January 15 2015 03:35 GMT
#2185
Nvm wrong section.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
January 17 2015 01:12 GMT
#2186
Random question for the mods and regulars of the channel: I know the focus is primarily on Melee, since that's the only game the team and liquipedia promotes, but are people generally cool with me continuing to post non-Melee stuff? Although I watch lots of Melee, I play Project M, and when I get around to my learn-series thing again, it's going to continue being PM for the foreseeable future.

Half-ways asking if any of you see it as just spam, and half-ways wondering if there's any interest in P:M.
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
January 17 2015 02:49 GMT
#2187
On January 17 2015 10:12 Cedstick wrote:
Random question for the mods and regulars of the channel: I know the focus is primarily on Melee, since that's the only game the team and liquipedia promotes, but are people generally cool with me continuing to post non-Melee stuff? Although I watch lots of Melee, I play Project M, and when I get around to my learn-series thing again, it's going to continue being PM for the foreseeable future.

Half-ways asking if any of you see it as just spam, and half-ways wondering if there's any interest in P:M.

im fairly sure its anything. there should be old discussion threads on other smashes too
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
January 17 2015 06:33 GMT
#2188
Not really. There was only one for SSB4 for 3DS which had barely any replies. But apart from that...
Lockitupv2
Profile Joined March 2012
United States496 Posts
January 18 2015 14:03 GMT
#2189
anyone want to play melee over netplay?
That's right folks, I definitely heard an ethnic twang in that voice, so everyone put your guesses on the screen. It's everyone's favorite game, it's Guess the Minority!!!
TyrionSC2
Profile Joined November 2010
United States411 Posts
January 24 2015 14:40 GMT
#2190
I'm finally starting to hit my SDI better :3
I got out of several up airs last night. Now I need to work on SDI vs falco shine.

I changed up my dash dance pattern A LOT lately too.
Several people said I wave dash way too much so I basically removed it from
my dash dancing with the exception of changing momentum and for quicker d tilts.

Also working on learning new matchups. I just like throwing spacies off the stage and edge guarding them and my flow chart doesn't work in all matchups :/


Would anybody be interested in me posting my marth edge guarding vs spacies guide on TL in a guide format?
I am talking to tafokints about having it go on MIOM once I update it a little bit more.
Fazers
Profile Joined August 2013
735 Posts
January 24 2015 16:25 GMT
#2191
I can't say stuff for Fox, but my Marth friend who edge guards me (falco) does the following...

-stand on ledge, use counter, then fair off stage
-if i'm doing up+b near stage, then a simple fair will do
-d tilt baby T_T
-if i'm doing side b, he'll jab me once or twice and ill be in a position below ledge, forcing me to up+b. refer to point #1
-good old tipper or shieldbreaker
gade1123
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
United States144 Posts
January 25 2015 01:13 GMT
#2192
if you d tilt me
i'll allow it
GOOGLE: I FUCKING HATE HATE METH (im feelin lucky)
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
January 25 2015 09:33 GMT
#2193
On January 25 2015 01:25 Fazers wrote:
I can't say stuff for Fox, but my Marth friend who edge guards me (falco) does the following...

-stand on ledge, use counter, then fair off stage
-if i'm doing up+b near stage, then a simple fair will do
-d tilt baby T_T
-if i'm doing side b, he'll jab me once or twice and ill be in a position below ledge, forcing me to up+b. refer to point #1
-good old tipper or shieldbreaker


possible ways to survive:
sweetspot the ledge (with forward-b or up-b ... or doublejump! know exactly how high your doublejump goes!!)
sdi in and tech (from here you can do immediatelforward-b to ledge, or techjump forward b / up b)
if you're close enough, doublejump -> airdodge may work

If you get fthrown off stage at low%, DI away so you don't get dtilted and do a sweetspot doublejump to grab ledge, or doublejump backward sweetspot forward b. Shine stalling may also prove useful. (http://twitch.tv/smashpractice form this past week had Zhu/PPMD talking about these situations, actually.)

In general, vs a good marth, upbing at a really close position below stage level is really bad; Either try to get above stage level, where you have way more options (esp on a platform stage, you can mix up with high upb or phantasm or upb to ledge), or upb at a low spot that's just high enough that you can choose whether to make it on stage or go for the ledge. Sometimes upbing straight up / straight up at a tiny angle and then falling toward the ledge is good for avoiding counter / mis-timed dtilts and such.
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Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
January 25 2015 10:34 GMT
#2194
soo, anyone gonna talk about Axe 6-2ing M2K today or The Moon taking out Hax and Ice to win Nebulous? Pretty cool
Headshot
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1656 Posts
January 25 2015 13:58 GMT
#2195
Axe is gonna do big things a Apex. I hope that Hax is able to play his best, even with his injury.
-
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1952 Posts
January 25 2015 16:35 GMT
#2196
On January 25 2015 19:34 Kyuukyuu wrote:
soo, anyone gonna talk about Axe 6-2ing M2K today or The Moon taking out Hax and Ice to win Nebulous? Pretty cool

Didn't know there was a tourny on.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8031 Posts
January 25 2015 17:36 GMT
#2197
On January 26 2015 01:35 Just_a_Moth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2015 19:34 Kyuukyuu wrote:
soo, anyone gonna talk about Axe 6-2ing M2K today or The Moon taking out Hax and Ice to win Nebulous? Pretty cool

Didn't know there was a tourny on.

There were a ton of tournaments on yesterday. At least 3-4 with notable players.
Liquipedia
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-25 22:05:27
January 25 2015 22:05 GMT
#2198
The Norcal Arcadian (tournament for anyone who's never been ranked before) also happened yesterday 292 singles entrants, making it the 10th largest tournament of all time!!

http://challonge.com/norcalarcadianmainbracket

Bardull the netplay god won, losing 2-3 to Doyoung in WFs and winning 2-1, 2-1 in GFs (LSF/LF/GF had to be bo3 because of time constraints )

also I didn't enter, wops
Writer
Fazers
Profile Joined August 2013
735 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-26 18:36:20
January 26 2015 18:36 GMT
#2199
On January 26 2015 07:05 ]343[ wrote:
The Norcal Arcadian (tournament for anyone who's never been ranked before) also happened yesterday 292 singles entrants, making it the 10th largest tournament of all time!!

http://challonge.com/norcalarcadianmainbracket

Bardull the netplay god won, losing 2-3 to Doyoung in WFs and winning 2-1, 2-1 in GFs (LSF/LF/GF had to be bo3 because of time constraints )

also I didn't enter, wops

wow, I'm watching the YT videos now. I'm guessing unranked players in the Norcal PR ranking?
Regardless, even these unranked players are looking sharp! Wtf, that's scary.
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
January 26 2015 19:03 GMT
#2200
Theoretically, you shouldn't have been ranked in any region if you're in the Arcadian, though I think a few people may have sneaked by

Norcal is a deep, deep region!!
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