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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18749 Posts
June 23 2018 20:15 GMT
#601
On June 24 2018 05:04 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2018 05:03 sharkie wrote:
On June 24 2018 05:02 Pandemona wrote:
Far from over, i still think Germany won't get out of the group stage either. Mexico will rest so many players and Sweden will win 1-0 and Germany will at best win like 2-1 and Sweden advance on GD


Mexico is out if they rest players...

If Sweden win 3-0 yes they would be...


Every goal sweden scores is +1 for them and -1 for Mexico

Where does 3-0 come from?
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
June 23 2018 20:16 GMT
#602
In any case Mexico can not start with their 2nd team which is what really matters.
Off-season = best season
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
June 23 2018 20:16 GMT
#603
On June 24 2018 05:07 Pandemona wrote:
[image loading]


I will take this :D


But you know that this would come down to FIFA Fair play ranking on who advances between Mexico and Germany
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
June 23 2018 20:17 GMT
#604
On June 24 2018 05:16 mahrgell wrote:
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On June 24 2018 05:07 Pandemona wrote:
[image loading]


I will take this :D


But you know that this would come down to FIFA Fair play ranking on who advances between Mexico and Germany

It would come to the yellow/red cards both team received i think.

Because of the Boateng's red card, Sweden advances to the next round in that situtation.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
June 23 2018 20:19 GMT
#605
On June 24 2018 05:17 Mensol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2018 05:16 mahrgell wrote:
On June 24 2018 05:07 Pandemona wrote:
[image loading]


I will take this :D


But you know that this would come down to FIFA Fair play ranking on who advances between Mexico and Germany

It would come to the yellow/red cards both team received i think.

Because of the Boateng's red card, Sweden advances to the next round in that situtation.

Unless Mexico gets a red against Sweden then it comes down to yellows
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mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
June 23 2018 20:20 GMT
#606
On June 24 2018 05:17 Mensol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2018 05:16 mahrgell wrote:
On June 24 2018 05:07 Pandemona wrote:
[image loading]


I will take this :D


But you know that this would come down to FIFA Fair play ranking on who advances between Mexico and Germany

It would come to the yellow/red cards both team received i think.

Because of the Boateng's red card, Sweden advances to the next round in that situtation.


No, Sweden would advance regardless. FIFA Fairplay ranking (which is about the red and yellows...) would only apply between Mexico and Germany. And yes, currently Mexico is ahead in that category due to the red card.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-23 20:22:04
June 23 2018 20:21 GMT
#607
Rudy apparently broke his nose
They need to wait for the check up
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
June 23 2018 20:21 GMT
#608
On June 24 2018 05:19 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2018 05:17 Mensol wrote:
On June 24 2018 05:16 mahrgell wrote:
On June 24 2018 05:07 Pandemona wrote:
[image loading]


I will take this :D


But you know that this would come down to FIFA Fair play ranking on who advances between Mexico and Germany

It would come to the yellow/red cards both team received i think.

Because of the Boateng's red card, Sweden advances to the next round in that situtation.

Unless Mexico gets a red against Sweden then it comes down to yellows


There is a point system. Not simply: reds first, then yellows.

Yellow: 1
Double Yellow (red): 3
Straight red: 4
Yellow + Red: 5
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 23 2018 20:24 GMT
#609
https://ultra.zone/2018-FIFA-World-Cup-Group-Stage

Is a fun little group tool to play with, im 90% sure it has the correct tiebreaker rule.
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
June 23 2018 20:25 GMT
#610
On June 24 2018 05:21 ShiaoPi wrote:
Rudy apparently broke his nose
They need to wait for the check up

Will make him look intimidating if he plays with mask next game. :D
Off-season = best season
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
June 23 2018 20:30 GMT
#611
Jimmy Durmaz lmao
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mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
June 23 2018 20:33 GMT
#612
On June 24 2018 05:24 Pandemona wrote:
https://ultra.zone/2018-FIFA-World-Cup-Group-Stage

Is a fun little group tool to play with, im 90% sure it has the correct tiebreaker rule.


It obviously doesn't know the FFPR. (when you are only entering scores, that should be obvious)

Assuming 1-0 Sweden and Germany victories, and no further cards given, Sweden would be first in the group. The page shows Germany first.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18749 Posts
June 23 2018 20:34 GMT
#613
That simulator goes alphabetically I bet
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-23 20:38:06
June 23 2018 20:37 GMT
#614
This game...... I fail to make sense of what happened.
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
June 23 2018 20:38 GMT
#615
On June 24 2018 05:33 mahrgell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2018 05:24 Pandemona wrote:
https://ultra.zone/2018-FIFA-World-Cup-Group-Stage

Is a fun little group tool to play with, im 90% sure it has the correct tiebreaker rule.


It obviously doesn't know the FFPR. (when you are only entering scores, that should be obvious)

Assuming 1-0 Sweden and Germany victories, and no further cards given, Sweden would be first in the group. The page shows Germany first.

I think that is actually correct.
Because it goes to a threeway head to head

Germany 0-1 Mexico
Germany 2-1 Sweden
Sweden 1-0 Mexico

So Germany wins on goals scored ahead of Sweden.

possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
June 23 2018 20:42 GMT
#616
On June 24 2018 05:38 sneirac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2018 05:33 mahrgell wrote:
On June 24 2018 05:24 Pandemona wrote:
https://ultra.zone/2018-FIFA-World-Cup-Group-Stage

Is a fun little group tool to play with, im 90% sure it has the correct tiebreaker rule.


It obviously doesn't know the FFPR. (when you are only entering scores, that should be obvious)

Assuming 1-0 Sweden and Germany victories, and no further cards given, Sweden would be first in the group. The page shows Germany first.

I think that is actually correct.
Because it goes to a threeway head to head

Germany 0-1 Mexico
Germany 2-1 Sweden
Sweden 1-0 Mexico

So Germany wins on goals scored ahead of Sweden.


But they both scored 2?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
June 23 2018 20:44 GMT
#617
On June 24 2018 05:42 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2018 05:38 sneirac wrote:
On June 24 2018 05:33 mahrgell wrote:
On June 24 2018 05:24 Pandemona wrote:
https://ultra.zone/2018-FIFA-World-Cup-Group-Stage

Is a fun little group tool to play with, im 90% sure it has the correct tiebreaker rule.


It obviously doesn't know the FFPR. (when you are only entering scores, that should be obvious)

Assuming 1-0 Sweden and Germany victories, and no further cards given, Sweden would be first in the group. The page shows Germany first.

I think that is actually correct.
Because it goes to a threeway head to head

Germany 0-1 Mexico
Germany 2-1 Sweden
Sweden 1-0 Mexico

So Germany wins on goals scored ahead of Sweden.


But they both scored 2?

Yes, but this breaks the three-way tie, then the head to head starts again for just Germany v Sweden.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18749 Posts
June 23 2018 20:45 GMT
#618
On June 24 2018 05:42 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2018 05:38 sneirac wrote:
On June 24 2018 05:33 mahrgell wrote:
On June 24 2018 05:24 Pandemona wrote:
https://ultra.zone/2018-FIFA-World-Cup-Group-Stage

Is a fun little group tool to play with, im 90% sure it has the correct tiebreaker rule.


It obviously doesn't know the FFPR. (when you are only entering scores, that should be obvious)

Assuming 1-0 Sweden and Germany victories, and no further cards given, Sweden would be first in the group. The page shows Germany first.

I think that is actually correct.
Because it goes to a threeway head to head

Germany 0-1 Mexico
Germany 2-1 Sweden
Sweden 1-0 Mexico

So Germany wins on goals scored ahead of Sweden.


But they both scored 2?


Germany would have scored 2 goals then (2vs Sweden)
Mexico scored 1 (vs Germany)
Sweden scored 2 (1 vs Germany, 1 vs Mexico)
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37116 Posts
June 23 2018 21:00 GMT
#619
What's the situation for Korea here? Can they still somehow make it out?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
June 23 2018 21:04 GMT
#620
On June 24 2018 05:44 sneirac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2018 05:42 BigFan wrote:
On June 24 2018 05:38 sneirac wrote:
On June 24 2018 05:33 mahrgell wrote:
On June 24 2018 05:24 Pandemona wrote:
https://ultra.zone/2018-FIFA-World-Cup-Group-Stage

Is a fun little group tool to play with, im 90% sure it has the correct tiebreaker rule.


It obviously doesn't know the FFPR. (when you are only entering scores, that should be obvious)

Assuming 1-0 Sweden and Germany victories, and no further cards given, Sweden would be first in the group. The page shows Germany first.

I think that is actually correct.
Because it goes to a threeway head to head

Germany 0-1 Mexico
Germany 2-1 Sweden
Sweden 1-0 Mexico

So Germany wins on goals scored ahead of Sweden.


But they both scored 2?

Yes, but this breaks the three-way tie, then the head to head starts again for just Germany v Sweden.


The public pages actually don't detail if those rules are applied iteratively. In fact I would say that the phrasing "If two or more teams are equal on the basis of the above three criteria, their rankings shall be determined as follows:" with above criteria refering to the total points/gd/goals actually implies that they won't be used iteratively. And in the non iterative case, Sweden is ahead of Germany.

This actually had been discussed at the2014 WC already: http://worldsoccertalk.com/2014/05/15/ambiguous-rules-could-lead-to-world-cup-controversy-involving-usmnt-portugal-and-ghana/ but sadly no result is mentioned there.
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