EPTEvery goal sweden scores is +1 for them and -1 for Mexico
Where does 3-0 come from?
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sharkie
Austria18776 Posts
Every goal sweden scores is +1 for them and -1 for Mexico Where does 3-0 come from? | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
On June 24 2018 05:07 Pandemona wrote: ![[image loading]](https://i.gyazo.com/061c7965969770b4b2d342f85ea06d22.png) I will take this :D But you know that this would come down to FIFA Fair play ranking on who advances between Mexico and Germany  | ||
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Mensol
14536 Posts
On June 24 2018 05:16 mahrgell wrote: But you know that this would come down to FIFA Fair play ranking on who advances between Mexico and Germany It would come to the yellow/red cards both team received i think. Because of the Boateng's red card, Sweden advances to the next round in that situtation. | ||
Shellshock
United States97277 Posts
On June 24 2018 05:17 Mensol wrote: It would come to the yellow/red cards both team received i think. Because of the Boateng's red card, Sweden advances to the next round in that situtation. Unless Mexico gets a red against Sweden then it comes down to yellows | ||
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
On June 24 2018 05:17 Mensol wrote: It would come to the yellow/red cards both team received i think. Because of the Boateng's red card, Sweden advances to the next round in that situtation. No, Sweden would advance regardless. FIFA Fairplay ranking (which is about the red and yellows...) would only apply between Mexico and Germany. And yes, currently Mexico is ahead in that category due to the red card. | ||
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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
 They need to wait for the check up | ||
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
On June 24 2018 05:19 Shellshock wrote: Unless Mexico gets a red against Sweden then it comes down to yellows There is a point system. Not simply: reds first, then yellows. Yellow: 1 Double Yellow (red): 3 Straight red: 4 Yellow + Red: 5 | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Is a fun little group tool to play with, im 90% sure it has the correct tiebreaker rule. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On June 24 2018 05:21 ShiaoPi wrote: Rudy apparently broke his nose They need to wait for the check up Will make him look intimidating if he plays with mask next game. :D | ||
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gingerfluffmuff
Austria4570 Posts
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
On June 24 2018 05:24 Pandemona wrote: https://ultra.zone/2018-FIFA-World-Cup-Group-Stage Is a fun little group tool to play with, im 90% sure it has the correct tiebreaker rule. It obviously doesn't know the FFPR. (when you are only entering scores, that should be obvious) Assuming 1-0 Sweden and Germany victories, and no further cards given, Sweden would be first in the group. The page shows Germany first. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18776 Posts
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Mafe
Germany5966 Posts
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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
On June 24 2018 05:33 mahrgell wrote: It obviously doesn't know the FFPR. (when you are only entering scores, that should be obvious) Assuming 1-0 Sweden and Germany victories, and no further cards given, Sweden would be first in the group. The page shows Germany first. I think that is actually correct. Because it goes to a threeway head to head Germany 0-1 Mexico Germany 2-1 Sweden Sweden 1-0 Mexico So Germany wins on goals scored ahead of Sweden. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On June 24 2018 05:38 sneirac wrote: I think that is actually correct. Because it goes to a threeway head to head Germany 0-1 Mexico Germany 2-1 Sweden Sweden 1-0 Mexico So Germany wins on goals scored ahead of Sweden. But they both scored 2? | ||
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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
Yes, but this breaks the three-way tie, then the head to head starts again for just Germany v Sweden. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18776 Posts
Germany would have scored 2 goals then (2vs Sweden) Mexico scored 1 (vs Germany) Sweden scored 2 (1 vs Germany, 1 vs Mexico) | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37125 Posts
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
On June 24 2018 05:44 sneirac wrote: Yes, but this breaks the three-way tie, then the head to head starts again for just Germany v Sweden. The public pages actually don't detail if those rules are applied iteratively. In fact I would say that the phrasing "If two or more teams are equal on the basis of the above three criteria, their rankings shall be determined as follows:" with above criteria refering to the total points/gd/goals actually implies that they won't be used iteratively. And in the non iterative case, Sweden is ahead of Germany. This actually had been discussed at the2014 WC already: http://worldsoccertalk.com/2014/05/15/ambiguous-rules-could-lead-to-world-cup-controversy-involving-usmnt-portugal-and-ghana/ but sadly no result is mentioned there. | ||
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