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A long time ago a Zerg player by the ID [NC]...Yellow reigned as the number one zerg in the world. Nicknamed "Storm Zerg" - he championed the era of "poor zerg" and was an agressive tactical player. Time elapsed, and a new Zerg emerged using the ID Julyzerg. Taking the scene by storm, his hyper-agressive play and unparalleled mutalisk micro before the advent of the overlord trick earnt him the nickname "The God of War". For a long time Julyzerg embodied the hyperagressive zerg movement against the trend of 'management' styles characterised by Gorush.

As July and Gorush entered a less dominant phase, zerg players were left struggling without any hope, until Savior[gm] arrived. Turning heads in UZOO MSL after decimating Nada in his prime, he went on to become the most dominant player in MSL history - reaching 5 consecutive finals, winning 3. His style? Perfection. He was Gorush on steroids, his management and macro were unmatched by any player and his defiler usage revolutionised zerg playstyles.

In this period of protoss domination, who is the next hope of zerg?

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The new face of agressive zerg

Humble Beginnings

Kwanro[saM] caught teamliquid's and the world's eye at the age of fifteen. In 2005, Kwanro played a Terran player by the ID Eyepoint (thought to be pepe[z-zone]) in some Amateur Korean Tournament. Uhjoo, having the eye he does for excellent replays, found the replay of this match, and uploaded it to teamliquid.
On March 30 2005 19:42 Amnesty wrote:
Yah that was yummy.

On March 30 2005 19:27 EvilTeletubby wrote:
"delicious" is always a good word to describe a replay

What happened in this game to cause such comments in comments section?

Kwarno spawned at 7 and Eyepoint at 11 on the map nostalgia. Kwanro opened with the standard 3 hatch build into lair. Normal zergs usually get lurkers or spire as soon as the lair is completed, however Kwanro is not a normal zerg. The moment his lair is completed he morphs two evolution chambers and continues to ling hard. Eyepoint opts to contain the zerg and bunkers both exits from Kwanro's main. Kwanro techs den and then lurkers lurkers quickly after the dual evo.

At the conclusion of the +1 Melee/Armour upgrades, and with a couple lurker to bolster his ling army, kwanro tried to break out at the 9 expo. Eyepoint reacts quickly and in no time his army is reinforcing his two bunkers and kwanro's attack is repelled. Kwanro rebuilds his army and tries to break out at the nat but is once again repelled. After failing to break out a third time at the 9 expo, Kwanro decides to use tactics to outwit his opponent. Kwanro uses about 12~16 lings as a minority attack against the natural blockade, and as sure as haji loves lecaf, Eyepoint sends his army to repel the attack. Meanwhile, with eyepoints troops dispositioned, the main strike force of kwanro with 2-2 easily crushes the bunkers at the 9 expo freeing himself from the contain. As soon at the army reaches the bunkers at the nat kwanro simply runs his minority attack team away with 6~ ligns to spare.

Eyepoint, realising his folly too late, send his army up to outside the 9 expo on the main ground of nostalgia. A brief tussle between armies ensures, but both retreat. With the aid of some more reinforcements, kwanro moves out and crushes Eyepoints army while simultaneously sending a blob of lings to dispatch the contain outside his natural. Kwanro probes Eyepoint for weakness, but cannot find anything so expands to 9, 4 and 5 and reaches hive tech in time to start 3-3. Eyepoint now resorts to drop tactics, but fails with his early dropships to deal much damage. Kwanro's army at this point consists purely of zerglings with crack and 3-3.

Eyepoint realises that kwanro is mostly ling, and builds firebats to counter. He drops a dropship full on kwanro's 5 expo, killing it and moves onto 6 where he drops again. Kwanro rushes in with his army of lings and repels the attack. Most zergs would have run away from 5bats+meds, but kwanro demonstrates some amazing control and minimizes the splash damage dealt and dispatches the drop without major causalities. After the phase of Dropship use, Eyepoint picks up his balls, and move out with a 50/50 mf ratio, tanks, vessels and medics. He begins to siege the 9 expo with his tanks, and takes down 3 of the 6 sunks defending the expo before rushing in with his army. Kwanro's first ultra's pop, and his army of lings/3ultra rush in and destroy the entire army against all odds - without any drone losses. Now with a definitive upperhand, Kwanro proceeds to destroy the terran. He shows his tactical ability in forcing eyepoint to move his army from base to base and picking off workers at eyepoints third nat - eventually forcing a gg.

Kwanro's exceptional ling usage during this game demonstrates his amazing potential, and it did not go unnoticed. In the 2005 August draft, Suma G.O. picked up Kwanro after he won the 10th courage tournament. For 2 years, we heard nothing from this young zerg - until now.

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Kwanro exhibiting the CJ face after defeating Midas

Kwanro's road to the MSL

Kwanro qualified for the 12th MBCGame Survivor League and was placed in the same group as Nada, Midas and Soo. Nada and Midas were heavy favourites to qualify from the group. In set 1 he played against Midas on the Zerg graveyard Monty Hall.

Opening with a x3 expo build, kwanro looked like an amateur - struggling to jump some mineral walls and look very 'unclean' in his play. Midas opened with a 2port tech build with marines guarding each mineral wall to prevent kwanro from seeing. By the time kwamro had started his lair, midas has 2 wraiths building. Midas's first two wraiths score two overlord kills on the way to an unprepared kwanro. Midas picks off overlords and drones as a third wraith arrives. Things do not look good for kwanro.
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Midas's wraiths wreck havoc in kwanro's main

Hydras stall further harass, but midas uses the wraiths mobility to his advantage and runs about expos killing drones. Then, from no where - Midas pulls a dropship containing 7marines and a medic - which lays waste to kwanro's other expo.

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Midas musters up more wraiths, and midas's marine force wreck stray lords and the remainder of kwanro's main. Kwanro was down 0-1 and would wind up facing Soo in the loser round. This round was on python against the inexperienced protoss Soo.

Kwanro spawned at 1 while Soo spawned at 2. Soo opts to build his pylon in his main and creates a single gate while kwanro overpools. Soo builds an early 2nd pylon to correct mining then adds gas, and Kwanro expands and his first lings pop. Kwanro tests soo's zeal wall, before adding a third hatch and some more lings. Kwanro sees Soo's stargate and runs his 8 lings home. Kwanro sends 10lings back, and tests the wall once again - but loses two to soo's goon. Kwanro has teched hydra now, and easily repels the sair before it gets even a single kill. Kwanro - still running on hatch tech blitzes Soo's expo with speed hydra and lings and trades some units.

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The blitz commences

He continues to mass hydra and Soo adds 4 cannons at his expo to make a total of 6. While they are still warping, Kwanro's hydra's rush in, take out the 4 remaining zealots with precision micro, and proceeds to destroy the 3 operating cannons. He then simultaneously destroys warping cannons while avoiding probe fire
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The last zealot falls, and with it Soo's chances

As reinforcements arrive, the new cannon cannot stop kwanro's hydras, and kwanro takes the losers game convincingly and with style. The winners game between Nada and Midas was won by Nada, forcing the final set to be played between Kwanro and Midas on desperado - winner stays, loser goes home.

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[i]A true CJ man; taken during his match with midas

Kwanro spawned at 4 while midas spawned at 10. Both sides decide that cheese won't be a feature of todays game, and Kwanro 12hatches into 3hatch before pool and midas 14cc's before dual barracks. Kwanro sends some lings towards midas, but pose no threat to his 10~rines - but with speed finishing the commentators goes crazy. Why? Kwanro decides its time for aggression and is pumping 3hat lings. Midas's medics arrive just in time for the lings. Kwanro uses his scouting lord to judge the position of the marines before moving in.

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Just look at that ling division

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The aftermath

Kwanro demonstrates precision micro, and perfectly flanks midas's rine forces resulting in terran torsos being ripped to shreds by the manic claws of kwanro's lings. Midas's scvs are too late to save the day, but prevent lings from ascending the ramp. Firebats are also ready for midas, but are too late to save the SCV populus at Midas's expansion. Meanwhile, kwanro is sending another wave of zerglings across the map. They dash up midas's ramp and are narrowly defeated by 4 firebats with the last being on 5 hp (there was about 12lings). 2 Stray lings run in, and harass scvs - scoring a kill before being dispatched. 4 more ligns arrive immediately after the previous two, which keep midas occupied and distracted.

Meanwhile, Kwanro is adding a spire and a second gas. The 4 lings kill off a firebat with 1 casualty and continue to harass workers. Midas has a small mmf force now who dispatch the lings at the expo - once again too late to save all but 1 scv. But yet AGAIN Kwanro has a stream of lings heading off towards midas and while the main force of midas is dealing with the harassment lings, they run straight up midas's ramp - killing the two newly made rines.

About 8 lings survive inside the main and they commence harassment of SCVs, while those who didnt make it up, go and harass Midas's expo - forcing a division of his army and just as this occurs Kwanro's spire is finished. Poor midas... Midas's scvs are spending more time in transit running from Kwanro's zerglings as Midas's army is incapable of keeping up with their speed. Finally he manages to kill the zerglings in his main, not without retreating his scvs from his expo.

An eerie silence occurs in the match, where are the follow up wave of zerglings? Nowhere - Kwanro has spawned mutas. Harassment ensures. Midas's defence of the harass is first class - losing a single marine in the first 'round' of harass. Kwanro turns his attention to Midas's expo - and brings some zerglings along for the ride. But midas is too quick - the attack is repelled. Kwanro goes at midas once again - but midas holds strong.
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Midas defends well

More lings arrive, and mutas harass midas's main - drawing out his marines. This time kwanro's harras is much stronger scoring many kills. Kwanro, master of the diversion, uses Midas's displacement to his advantage, and sends in his lings to attack the expo - which is reinforced by the mutas fresh from their harassment duties.

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Where are the defenders?

Once midas's main armies arrives, it is promptly raped by ling/muta with almost no muta losses. More lings are arriving, and destroying midas's nat, while mutas keep midas's army inside his main - all scvs at expo die... again... The Nat cc falls, and more and mroe lings arrive for kwanro - who now has hydra tech, but that will not be necessary. A large muta fleet arrives, and destroys the south end of midas's main and then midas's whole army - and you will expect by now, Kwanro's entire ling force run up the empty ramp and midas looks hopelessly lost - before the next wave of reinforcements arrive midas throws in the towel.

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Midas was dominated from start to finish

Kwanro had advanced from his group into GOMTV MSL Season 3.

Kwanro's style

Unlike the sea of blandness that is emerging in the new generation - Kwanro is an exciting player. His games reminds me of the early bisu and sea games of aggression and strategy. He is without a doubt in my mind the next generation of agressive Zergs, following on after the "God of War" - July.

Undoubtedly, Kwanro is a micro player who understands the dance of the Zergling. And it is perfectly justified to say that his trademark unit is the Zergling. His ability to control zerglings and use them to win battles that other players would lose is remarkable. Shortly, we will see that his ability to control zerglings allows him to win ling battles where he has inferior numbers.

However, when the ability to showcase his zergling micro is impossible or indeed his micro in general, things start to go wrong. This was perfectly evident in the game where midas dismantled him. Hence the trick to defeat Kwanro is to force him into a submissive position or one where he simply cannot attack. Entering into a macro war, however, is NOT the answer. By doing so, you forgo the early game aggression and if you give Kwanro an inch - he'll run a mile. Midas's heavy macro build in the final set of Survivor against Kwanro shows this - Kwanro just ran around him in circles with zerglings wearing him down into a messed up bloody pulp. One particularly definitive feature of his playstyle is his ability to create diversions with mutalisks/zerglings and create room for another strike which deals a lot of damage.

Kwanro's zvp and zvz is relatively untested at high levels, being 1-1 in both mu's and showcasing vastly different styles in both matches in each mu. This will be talked about when those games are encountered.

Proleague

Kwanro has played two matches in proleague - one against KaL; the zerg killer and Hery the nothing killer. Kwanro experienced losses in each game-

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Kal prays to Adun while Kwanro gets those hands ready for some micro

Kwanro played Kal on Katrina; he spawned at 3 while Kal spawned at 6. Both players opt for the standard fast expo - kwanro opting for a third hatch in main. Kal denies Kwanro a third expo by means of manner pylon, and kwanro's drone goes home disappointed. Kal begins his tech as expected and Kwanro kills the manner pylon and expands to his center nat while teching lair. Uncharacteristically, Kwanro opts for a spire with low ling numbers. Meanwhile Kal is preparing temp tech with minimal units himself. Kwanro opts for a macro oriented play, and takes a hidden expo at 11 while he starts his mutalisks. 4 zealots try to attack the center expo, but 6lings/sunk repel them. Kal is completely prepared for mutalisks with cannons at expos and 2 archons. Kwanro lays down 4 sunks at his center nat - and Kal moves out with 2 arhoncs and a decent number of zealots. Kwanro's mutas try pick of zealots but with little success. Kal heads for kwanro's main and muta's prepare for the attack. The battle commences, and kwanro picks off the 2 archons with a perfect split of mutalisks.

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Those archons don't last much longer

But as a consequence of killing the archons, zealots lay wreck to the main and deal damage to sunks and get some drone kills before being dispatched of my mutas. Kal, by now, has amassed a large dragoon/temp army. Kwanro's many mutalisks rush into Kal's nat - but only get an opportunity to kill 2 cannons before the dragoon mass arrives. Kal sends an archon and 4~ zealots to kwanro's main in retaliation, and has his goon force in the way. Kwanro's mutas and sunks prevent any damage to his main. Kal's very scary goon army slowly moves around the map, and finally reaches Kwanro's main. Goons and Archons assault kwanro's main and sunkens, and all seems to be lost for kwanro. While the fight is going on, Kal finds the hidden expansion and things look worse. Shortly, Kwanro loses all his mutas and sunkens, and loses his main and with it the game.

What did Kal do right? Well, he neutralised the micro play of Kwanro by bringing the fight to him and minimising early contact so that setbacks were managable. Kwanro's choice of build wasn't flash either - as it committed him to many drone losses through sunkens. Kal adapted perfectly, and used a strategy which requires heavy larva investment to counter (heavy goon) which Kwanro didn't have because he had to spend the larva on drones that he had lost. Thus, Kal earned his victory.

The game against Hery was a long drawn out macro war in which Kwanro's late swarms cost him the game - obviously he still has something to learn off savior.

GOMTV MSL Ro 32

Just Kwanro's luck. He lands himself into one of the toughest groups in the MSL. The group consists of the Air Force Exiled Oversky, the surprisingly inform Julyzerg and l'infant terrible - sea[shield]. Kwanro would play oversky in the first round. (Note: there is an excellent Diggity commentary for this game). Oversky spawns at 1 and Kwanro at 2 on python - and due to the close positions both players opt for a 12hatch build, into gas before pool, then lair then third hatch - exactly mirror builds. A small ling tussle emerges, no casualties on either side and both get spire. Kwanro goes heavy on the lings with speed and rushes into oversky's nat. Both sides have roughly equal ling numbers. Kwanro demonstrates why zerglings are his signature unit and easily wins the battle of micro.

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Kwanro begins his domination of oversky

Kwanro gains a slight advantage over oversky in the tussle, and typical of Kwanro he takes the ground he's gained and stretches it out extensively. Both sides continue to add lings and both spires complete. Then with a little bit of provoking by Kwanro, their ling armies collide;

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From this picture it seems oversky has the greater numbers

Despite having inferior numbers, Kwanro wins the battle convincingly. This major advantage is stretched by Kwanro's harassment of oversky's nat - scoring drone kills. Meanwhile oversky uses his newly built scourges to kill overlords to halt the kwanro train from gaining too much momentum. Kwanro's lings demolish what oversky throws at him, and they run up the ramp and demolish oversky's main and with it a large advantage which gives Kwanro the win.

The game against oversky shows us exactly how not to zvz against Kwanro. By entering into a zergling war with Kwanro you play on his territory - and his zergling control is formidable to say the least. Oversky, like midas before him, was dominated from start to finish never given a breath of air from Kwanro once the attacks started. As I've said before, once this guy gets an edge, he just tightens his grip on the game - much like an Anaconda does - untill his opponent pops.

Julyzerg won his match against Sea, meaning the winners match would be between Kwanro and Julyzerg - two of the most agressive players of all time. They would play on the map Zodiac, and kwanro would spawn at 6 and July at 3. Kwanro opts for a 9pool gas build while Julyzerg opts for a 12hatch. However, he gets lucky and scouts the pool with his overlord, and cancles his hatch and quickly morphs and pool and gas and a creep colony. Kwanro fast techs to lair, and july adds a 2nd hatch. Kwanro's lings arrive at july just as the sunken hatches - and july starts his lair as well. July's advantage begins to grow from his greater drone count. Kwanro steals a drone kill before running away.

As expected both palyers go spire tech - with kwanro's significantly earlier but very behind in the macro battle. July has massed some lings, and repels kwanro's ling forces. Kwanro is forced to sunk from the threat of July's zerglings. Clever micro at Kwanro's ramp ensures July's lings are delayed and the sunk completes in time. However, kwanro left his ramp and allowed July's lings to run up - although no losses occured, he lost many lings. July shows why he is the god of the mutalisk and minimizes the effect of Kwanro's scourges via muta micro leaving Kwanro severly behind - and consequently costing him the game.

Julyzerg played the game perfectly, and got a little lucky with the scouting overlord. Kwanro took a gamble with the 9pool build and if July had scouted in the opposite direction would have come away with the win. But thats the nature of ZvZ - half of it is luck based. July also played very cleverly with this;

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July's other key to victory

That sunken of July's served not only to stop the 9pool rush but also removed all opportunity for Kwanro to use his superior Zergling micro and score drone kills putting himself back into the game. Whether July planned the sunk specifically for this or not I'm not sure. But givin Kwanro's style this one building was such a definitive setback to him. But who better to lose to than the most agressive zerg in history.

In the deciding match, Kwanro would play Fakesteve's favourite player - Sea[Shield]. Not many people were expecting anything from Kwanro - and for good reason. Sea is one of the most feared Terrans on the scene. He is unpredictably agressive, yet has amazing mechanics and the ability to switch to a strong macro game. Surely this would be the definitive game for Kwanro. The map of destiny was Blue Storm - the map used in MSL, OSL and Proleague making it the most shared map this season. Kwanro hatched at 7 while sea made his base at 1. Kwanro opts for the agressive 9pool, using the gas trick to get a 10th drone. Meanwhile in the terran camp sea builds himself a single rax. Kwanro takes his expansion and sea walls himself in - as to protect himself from the 9pool. Sea starts his expo CC at the same time Kwanro adds a third hatch.

Kwanro still adds lings to his force and adds gas. Sea also decides its time for gas - and adds his own. By the time it's finished Kwanro has the upgrade which turns his simple zerglings into lethal frenzied dogs - speed. Sea continues to play standardly, adding a acadamy and Kwanro upgrades to lair. Sea floats his CC over his nat, unable to land due to kwanro's lings. About 10seconds later, he opens up his wall and comes out with his army to clear the nat - with 2firebats and 2 medics in addition to about 8 rines. Kwanro, notes the size of the army and adds 3 creep colonies and already has an evo chamber.

Sea moves his forces towards his min only expansion and chases away kwanro's ling force - meanwhile kwanro has just started his spire. Sea hunts down the ling force, so kwanro adds a forth sunk. Kwanro's spire finishes, and mutas begin to come out - and sea adds turrets right on cue. Kwanro's mutas go to harass while sea pratros the upper half of the map with his army scouting for expos. Kwanro runs a drone straight past those forces and starts an expansion at 11.

Meanwhile Kwanro's mutas cause some disruption in sea's base - killing a turret here and there and the odd unit. Kwanro moves his muta force to Sea's expo, and takes down 3/4 turrets before seas army arrives. Sea scouts perfectly, and has a firebat at the hidden expo in no time. Kwanro is forced to retreat his mutas and intercept sea's strike force while sending many lings to deal with the firebat at the expo. Kwanro's lings come back down and together with mutalisks take down Seas strike force.

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That mmf force doesnt last very much longer

Having won the first major skirmish, Kwanro techs to hive and adds a forth hatch in main and resumes the muta harass. Sea has sci vessel tech - and even two science facilities! Kwanro has a ferocious stream of lings coming from his main. They spill over into the mineral only expansion position of sea's base ready for a strike on his natural expo. The combined muta/ling attack is ultimately repelled by Sea, who cleverly positions his rines in such a way that they cannot be flanked.

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Without flanking room the attack is doomed to fail

Kwanro morphs his spire into a greater spire and adds an ultra den - which see must see as he adds a second starport. Sea gets in a killer irradiate on Kwanro's muta army and scores some god damage there. Sea moves his army out via the large entrace and around the bend - meanwhile kwanro sends a stream of lings straight through into seas expo. But is intercepted by the army of sea forcing a retreat. Kwanro takes the remainder of his forces and runs around seas army - trying to get into a position to attack the nat. He succeeds in breaking into the nat, but the attack causes minor damage. Sea moves his troops into the min only area of kwanro, while the first ultras are popping for kwanro. Sea moves down off the Basillica ground into a flank by kwanro. The resulting battle is chaos - ultralisks flying from every corner, irradiate everywhere and scourges popping sci vessels - the way zvt should be.

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An intense battle ends with victory to Kwanro

Kwanro had gained the advantage over sea - but sea had macroed hard and had a new mmf force ready. Sea moved out to attack and was met by Kwanro's ultra/ling army;

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Not this time Kwanro! Sea's firebats prove too much

Kwanro proceeds to retreat to the baillica, while sea takes his min only. Kwanro does what he does best, and sneaks a strike force of zerglings around the back entrance to the min only and launches an amazing flank on sea - but sea's forces prove too much and the attack is repelled - and advantage to sea.

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This is what i think of your flank!

Kwanro retreats to seas basillica, and takes the 6 expo. Kwanro draws out seas forces with a fake attack then rushes many lings through to sea's natural - however, sea has thought about this already and has a bunker in place to cut down the lings as they come.

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The attack proves pointless

Sea now moves into an attacking position and moves onto the high ground, kwanro launches a half assed attack on sea which gets crushed. Kwanro moves back over to his side of the map and sea occupies the space directly across the divide. Kwanro quickly organises his forces and lauches at sea with everything he's got

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All or nothing

Kwaro successfully defeats seas blob and forces him to retreat - equalising the game. However, sea's not a person to take to failure kindly, so returns the favour to kwanro - drawing his ultra's into a corner where they are flanked by sea's reinforcements. Kwanro laughs, and proves that ultralisks are imbalanced by decimating the reinforcements before his own arrive. Another wave of sea's reinforcements are pushed back, but not without some losses and the remainder of the attack is spent killing a andful of scvs. Kwanro gains the advantage as sea is reduced to one mining base. Kwanro finally adds defilers and sea's vessel cloud has almost reached critical mass. Kwanro pulls many troops from no where to launch an offensive on sea's nat.

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The vessel cloud proves too strong

Kwanro's forces are repelled by sea's irradiation and he retreats to the min only where vessels take pride in irradiating the ultras remaining. Sea then moves his forces up to retake his min only. Kwanro has added defilers to his army and prepares and assault against sea - only to have his army iraddiated by the vessels nullifying the offensive effort. Another force has amassed - and swarm pushes sea back. But Sea still wins the war - destoying all the ultralisks. Kwanro goes on the offensive yet again, and plagues the vessel cloud. Sea discovers 6 and moves in to attack it - kwanro takes advantage of this and flanks sea's army resulting in...

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Sea minimizes the flank once again and wins the fight

But all is not lost for kwanro - in turn for the razing of his expansion - he uses the muta splash trick to wipe out half of the vessel cloud. Sea prevents any hope of rescue for kwanro's expo by planting a science facility to block the choke and prevent any units from entering. Sea looks in good shape, despite a lack of medics. And cuts down kwanro's next offensive. Kwanro gathers his forces once more, and challenges sea on his basillica - with the aid of swarm and a beautiful plague on mnm he forces a retreat from sea. KWanro also expands to 12. Kwanro presses on in the attack - and the combined might of swarm/plague/ultra prove too strong for sea

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Sea suffers heavy losses

Sea takes heavy losses from the attack but manages to repell it. Kwanro musters together some reinforcements and keeps pressing against sea. Sea defends well and manages to move back onto the basillica. Sea's blob moves across the divide into kwanro country where scourges kill vessels and plague hits many marines. Sea tries to go north to 12, but is denied by kwanro's lings and some static d. Sea's nat runs dry - and he looks bad economically. He has one last blob in him and moved towards 12. Meanwhile, 2 utlralisks and lings attack seas min only, which only just manages to be stopped by some stray rines. Sea attacks 12, but plague takes it toll and the sunken colonies deciment seas forces, then ultras arrive and clean up. Sea has floated to 5 in this time, and pushes across the map with his plagued mmf. Kwanro takes his time to organise his forces and then pushes down towards seas army on the basillica. With the aid of swarm, he defeats sea's half dead army. Sea now is under great pressure and only just holds kwanro off until kwanro's reinforcements arrive. Sea's economy fails, and he throws in the towel. Kwanro advances to his first major tournament ever!

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That was an effort and a half

MSL Ro16
Will the starcraft Gods give Kwanro a break? KWanro gets a bracket in which his first opponent is light followed by either Hwasin or Bisu - is that insane or what? Nevertheless - Kwanro fights onward and has already played one game against Light. The game took place on the map Loki II and was for me, was one of the greatest zvt's of the year.

Kwanro spawned at 7 and Light at 1. Light opened with a standard 1 rax build, while Kwanro opened with 12 hatch 12 pool. Kwanro declared his intensions to play a 3hatch game and laid a hatch at his other nat - occupying all three. Light expanded to his frontal expansion. Light tries to presure with 4~ rines but realises his folly and retreats to his nat - Kwanro sends his lings towards the nat and tests Light's rine count. Typical of kwanro, he continues to add lings while teching to lair. More and more lings come, and he dashes into Light's expo

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Kwanro makes light work for his expansion

Some nifty SCV work by Light forces Kwanro to retreat - but Kwanro now has speed and tests light's new bunker by cutting off the marines from it - however they eventuall get inside and kwanro retreats while his reinforcements catchup then he goes in and...

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Flanked the bunker perfectly

And after a few tense seconds... the bunker falls and the crowd goes crazy, and the inhabitants of the bunker are killed. Kwanro dashes up the ramp and casues havoc, harass scvs left right and center, Back at home he techs muta. Even firebats can't stop the lings, as kwanro dispatches 2 with ease. However, the stall the rest of the attack. Lings begin to build up outside light's nat, but mutas are building. Light rebuilds the bunker he lost and loads it up, KWanro runs around the bunker and kills one of the turrets at Lights nat - then the mutas arrive. The mutas decimate many rines but turrets stall the harass. So kwanro uses his lings and blitzs lights main dashing past the firebat-loaded bunker at his nat. Mutas finish off the bunker while the zerglings take out strategic turrets.

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Teamwork

The mutalisks finish off the turrets, and proceed to kill scvs and firebats lying around. More lings and mutas run up the path towards light as Kwanro's mutas take down a barracks. Kwanro's lings kill the turrets at Light's nat leaving it defenceless to muta - so he retreats it. Kwanro then proceeds to destroy it with his mutalisks.

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That CC is going down

Light is in huge trouble - 3 base zerg vs 1 base terran and a sever unit advantage to kwanro. Kwanro harass around with his mutas and kwanro adds lurkers to the mix. But before they can arrive - lings snipe a turret gaurding a barracks and kwanro proceeds to harass it. Light move out with what army he has but cannot even get to his ramp.

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You know you're in trouble when you cant leave your base

Mutalisks follow up the failed attempt at leaving and finish off most of the surviving rines. Meanwhile, those lurkers are plodding towards Light. Once they arrive, there's nothing he can do except watch his raxes burn and cenceed the game.

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A well deserved victory

The Future?

Kwanro is a promising young player, born on the 21st of February 1990, he is only 17 (18 korean). His next scheduled match is against Light in rounds 2/3 of their series. With a preformance like the last, Kwanro looks set to take this 2-0. His unique style and Zergling mastery makes for exciting and interesting games. And i implore you to check out this bright new hope for Zerg, for one day he will be the next Julyzerg. And thank you for reading this far, i know it was long - but im passionate about this guy ^^

Kwanro fighting!!~~

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Profile Joined August 2007
Singapore1867 Posts
October 13 2007 11:17 GMT
#2
amazing read :O


Kwanro's style is awesome to watch
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-13 16:40:15
October 13 2007 11:28 GMT
#3
THIS IS LOOOOOOONG!

I'm gonna read it all and edit this !

edit: WOW, very entertaining read. Kwanro has a lot of potential but Bisu has to take his 3rd MSL. Maybe next season.
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gg_hertzz
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
2152 Posts
October 13 2007 11:29 GMT
#4
WTF. Do you have a crush on him or something?
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Profile Joined July 2004
Austria1763 Posts
October 13 2007 11:38 GMT
#5
sick. nice done
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Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2748 Posts
October 13 2007 11:53 GMT
#6
third picture is wrong i think; it doesnt fit the description in action nor map

awesome post!
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Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
October 13 2007 12:19 GMT
#7
nice post plexa
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Kenya3846 Posts
October 13 2007 12:27 GMT
#8
forgot i was reading. not bad.
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Profile Joined April 2005
Bulgaria1698 Posts
October 13 2007 12:34 GMT
#9
This is many word and picture, yes?
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Profile Joined October 2002
Norway2312 Posts
October 13 2007 12:35 GMT
#10
I read about 80% of that, and it was a surprisingly good read. Thanks
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Profile Blog Joined July 2005
288 Posts
October 13 2007 12:41 GMT
#11
I enjoyed a lot your post, nice job !
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Spain4744 Posts
October 13 2007 12:50 GMT
#12
Wow, nice work man.
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Profile Joined November 2004
Poland4014 Posts
October 13 2007 12:54 GMT
#13
what a post, how much time did it take to write this?xd
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Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
October 13 2007 12:59 GMT
#14
when i saw that midas game i thought i saw something good in him..

great read plexa!
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gg_hertzz
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
2152 Posts
October 13 2007 13:08 GMT
#15
I didn't read everything but did you write the hery game? That was pretty bad.
Mango
Profile Joined July 2006
Belgium522 Posts
October 13 2007 14:02 GMT
#16
Wow what a beautiful review of this player. Now this is one hell of a featured tread! Congrats on writing this, learned some extra things about Kwanro as well.
Thinkingling
Profile Joined September 2007
Sweden15 Posts
October 13 2007 14:23 GMT
#17
Very nice!
Kwanro has the funniest-looking face in progaming btw.
MaTRiX[SiN]
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden1282 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-13 14:31:20
October 13 2007 14:30 GMT
#18
you really made it sound like him hydra rushing soo was a display of superb skill :D

great article
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iaretehnoob
Profile Joined June 2004
Sweden741 Posts
October 13 2007 14:35 GMT
#19
I really expect him to dominate ZvZ, but I'm sceptic about his ZvP.

Maybe this is because I play a similar style in ZvT (but 10x worse ;/ ) but absolutely suck at ZvP
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
October 13 2007 14:47 GMT
#20
ur making mountains out of mole holes here. flank bunker perfectly? cmon

other than the obvious getting carried away its a nice writeup
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Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
October 13 2007 15:45 GMT
#21
On October 13 2007 20:28 FirstBorn wrote:
THIS IS LOOOOOOONG!

I'm gonna read it all and edit this !

If you don't, Haji will murder you in your sleep.
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ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
October 13 2007 15:47 GMT
#22
Wow plexa, that was really well written.

I'll be sure to keep my eye on this boy now.
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Profile Joined October 2002
United States1558 Posts
October 13 2007 15:54 GMT
#23
omg, long article. well written. i'm 1/3 way through, i'll have finish reading l8r
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Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
October 13 2007 18:34 GMT
#24
Kwanro is a fresh zerg-player that I can get excited about, unlike all them Firefists or Inter.calms or whatever.
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Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42533 Posts
October 13 2007 19:37 GMT
#25
On October 13 2007 23:47 SoMuchBetter wrote:
ur making mountains out of mole holes here. flank bunker perfectly? cmon

other than the obvious getting carried away its a nice writeup

That flank prevented scvs being able to repair it which cost Light his nat which cost him the game. It was pivotal.
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xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5281 Posts
October 13 2007 20:05 GMT
#26
i'm waiting for Hot_bids karma to kick in for it seems that if there's no pain there's no game.
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Profile Joined November 2006
United States260 Posts
October 13 2007 20:07 GMT
#27
Awesome read. BTW, one spelling gripe (it's a repeated mistake): "amature" should be --> "amateur"
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Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
October 13 2007 21:29 GMT
#28
wow nice writeup
super long too damn how long did it take you to write it took me like an hour to read it !
cSf.Loser
Profile Joined December 2005
Czech Republic115 Posts
October 13 2007 23:55 GMT
#29
i appreciate this post but honestly his worst game was vs hery, in this game his units control was just poor. but well he has some potential
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
October 14 2007 00:10 GMT
#30
excellent writeup, after that convincing win vs Light it seems he's heading nowhere but up.
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StormSnarlX
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States278 Posts
October 14 2007 03:29 GMT
#31
This was absolutely a great read and writeup! Great job and more please =)
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Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-14 06:43:53
October 14 2007 06:41 GMT
#32
On October 13 2007 23:47 SoMuchBetter wrote:
ur making mountains out of mole holes here. flank bunker perfectly? cmon

other than the obvious getting carried away its a nice writeup
i took lessons from PGR

@ all the people complaining about the hery game - wanted to write on it but could only find the last half of the game and it seemed unfair to write on it without seeing the full thing. I've watched that half and yea, it's not the greatest but he did make him work for the win. That being said hery was in his element that game, and he took kwanro out of it
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semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
October 14 2007 08:54 GMT
#33
On October 13 2007 20:14 Plexa wrote:
And thank you for reading this far, i know it was long - but im passionate about this guy ^^


That is an understatement!

This was a great read, very informative and interesting throughout. You have made it so that I am now looking much more forward to his next match that I would have otherwise.
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
October 14 2007 10:21 GMT
#34
ahahah kwanro is awesome man i've become quite interested in this zerg!! :O

good write!
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Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
October 14 2007 18:14 GMT
#35
Thanks for the great thread. It's always nice to see someone that's not part of the staff put some effort into contributing to the community.

I kept on confusing Kwanro with some other players, which stopped me from ever observing him properly. This article really made me want to inspect his games in more detail.

Very well written article, and very ind-epth. He plays a strong aggressive game, much like July/Gorush, I just hope he doesn't fall into the pit fall of depending too much on early pressure. That said, I really think he is a great talent. Yet another strong player coming from CJ. They have a stunning team this season, I hope they perform.
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gEzUS
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada371 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-14 18:46:11
October 14 2007 18:45 GMT
#36
Kwanro sucks doods sorry to break the news

talk about a way over-hyped player...
Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-14 19:04:24
October 14 2007 19:04 GMT
#37
On October 15 2007 03:45 gEzUS wrote:
Kwanro sucks doods sorry to break the news

talk about a way over-hyped player...


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pangshai
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Chinatown5333 Posts
October 14 2007 19:24 GMT
#38
I hope he's another zerg who's going to start owning everyone, rather than a hyped player who has moments of brilliance like canata, but eventually doesn't do well anywhere.
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triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
October 15 2007 02:00 GMT
#39
Kwanro FIGHTING!

When Kwanro is on, there is no player more electrifying. In a sense, I think only a zerg could be as exciting as Kwanro is. Hyper agression is really entertaining, even when it bombs out.
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GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
October 15 2007 03:07 GMT
#40
Kwanro's game against Light turned me into a believer. I simply couldn't believe the way he used his lings after he got them into Lights base. They were there for at least two minutes (which prevented Light any chance back in the game)..

Great write up
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Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
October 15 2007 04:31 GMT
#41
owowowowo great post!
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Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
October 15 2007 05:11 GMT
#42
nice writeup!
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Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
October 15 2007 05:24 GMT
#43
Jesus H. Christ.

I'm honestly still not a believer, but I'll keep my eye on Kwanro just for the sake of the effort that Plexa put into this monster post.
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Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-15 06:07:16
October 15 2007 05:53 GMT
#44
On October 15 2007 14:24 HonestTea wrote:
Jesus H. Christ.

I'm honestly still not a believer, but I'll keep my eye on Kwanro just for the sake of the effort that Plexa put into this monster post.
When your favourite player disappears from major leagues, leagues don't seem that important anymore... until you experience something from another player which gets you excited - thats exactly what kwanro has done for me
turn this MSL from a so~so fest, to an exciting competition heh

EDIT: The oversky game was commented by Diggity NOT Klazart - my bad!
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prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
October 15 2007 06:31 GMT
#45
nice writeup, was a bit short though
Oh no
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
October 15 2007 06:44 GMT
#46
On October 13 2007 23:23 Thinkingling wrote:
Very nice!
Kwanro has the funniest-looking face in progaming btw.


AhahAHa yeah :p
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Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1166 Posts
October 15 2007 08:02 GMT
#47
Great work Plexa
and also i'm heading to see more wins and successes of Kwanro after this amazing read!
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Obi-1.Kulinobi
Profile Joined March 2007
Czech Republic162 Posts
October 15 2007 09:34 GMT
#48
this article prove that year which spend draco in korea is simply not enought this guy won courage tournament and two years later get to MSL play off...
azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
October 15 2007 19:11 GMT
#49
I think you should mention how Kwanro probably learned a lot of his incredible ling micro from Oversky himself
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Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
October 15 2007 20:11 GMT
#50
Thanks for doing this. It might be long and somewhat biased, but it's nice to have someone raise awareness of new players.
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Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Canada2843 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-15 21:07:31
October 15 2007 21:05 GMT
#51
Kwanro = young zerg vers of nada?

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Dexxus
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States329 Posts
October 15 2007 21:13 GMT
#52
I think Kwanro has the potential to be one of the best. It's kinda funny that this article was written right after I was thinking about the potential that is Kwanro. Nice read Plexa.
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prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
October 16 2007 04:57 GMT
#53
On October 16 2007 06:05 ATeddyBear wrote:
Kwanro = young zerg vers of nada?

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holy poop.. :o
Oh no
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
October 16 2007 05:02 GMT
#54
Personally I'm looking for Game by Game; the fall of Kwanro[saM], but he may yet convince me of his worth. ;o
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Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
October 16 2007 05:10 GMT
#55
Good write up!
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Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
October 16 2007 05:54 GMT
#56
On October 16 2007 04:11 azndsh wrote:
I think you should mention how Kwanro probably learned a lot of his incredible ling micro from Oversky himself


oversky's ling micro isn't anything special
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Letalis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Bulgaria180 Posts
October 16 2007 14:53 GMT
#57
Well done, Plexa

Thank you.
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Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
October 25 2007 21:18 GMT
#58
Great job
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Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
October 25 2007 23:37 GMT
#59
Nice post n_n I've been following Kwanro ever since his overthrowing of Midas.
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Profile Joined September 2007
United States3662 Posts
October 25 2007 23:56 GMT
#60
awesome writeup thanks.
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Profile Joined September 2007
United States2800 Posts
October 26 2007 02:18 GMT
#61
1:1 ZvP gonna have some issues w/ Bisu. gj btw
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
October 26 2007 02:45 GMT
#62
No doubt his muta/ling micro is top notch and he plays very well early-mid game, but I've never been blown away by his late game.
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aZnvaLiaNce
Profile Joined June 2007
United States942 Posts
October 26 2007 06:01 GMT
#63
he may have superb ling micro but the question is: can he dance with Bisu at the same place as he does in the same field? that's going to be a very hard question to answer yes to since Bisu has made VERY few micro mistakes (as ive seen). not trying to bag on cornrows here but he's gonna have to multitask at the same place with Bisu as well, something im very skeptical about.
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Quesadilla
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1814 Posts
October 27 2007 21:33 GMT
#64
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Profile Joined August 2007
79 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-28 00:02:10
October 27 2007 23:59 GMT
#65
+ Show Spoiler +
to be stopped by bisu[shield] like that.
in few words bisu crushed kwanro sense and strategy. or what his wins were made of.
but it was good to see kwanro get this far.
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Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
October 28 2007 08:25 GMT
#66
+ Show Spoiler +
Stopped short by Bisu, as many people expected.

It wasn't close... at all...

Better luck next year.
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triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
October 28 2007 15:54 GMT
#67
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Yeah, total rape.

T_T
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Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-28 16:00:54
October 28 2007 16:00 GMT
#68
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The masslings in game 2 didn't even win either. I hope his performance was a reflection of nerves and just not a product of a low-econ, micro-happy, no-game-sense, bad-macro style.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-28 17:45:24
October 28 2007 17:03 GMT
#69
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The rise...and now...the demise. gg kwanro
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bine
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States2352 Posts
October 28 2007 17:32 GMT
#70
+ Show Spoiler +

kwanro sense strategy sense where in for what korea made.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
October 28 2007 17:34 GMT
#71
On October 29 2007 02:03 Wizard wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
The rise...and now...the demise. gg kwanro


Thanks for putting everyone's spoiler efforts to waste.

I personally wouldn't care, but some people will bound to complain
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spetial
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States688 Posts
October 28 2007 18:05 GMT
#72
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i thought he did VERY well in game 2 and almost reached the threshhold of being able to take down bisu in early AND around mid game but bisu is just a monster and created a huge army during all that harassment. game 3 was over when he lost his scouting OL
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tehAscender
Profile Joined April 2007
94 Posts
October 28 2007 20:51 GMT
#73
I think you highly overrated [sam].

I did watch some of the games you talked about, especially the 3 hatchery, mass lings into mutalisk, and he caught my eye, I believe this is the first time I noticed him.

I did feel that he was an unconventional zerg as you mentioned, which gives him the advantage in cases where scouting is not practical by his opponent.

But the bottom line is, he has a very unorthadox style if you will. Notice, that if he doesn't win with his strategy he won't. Furthermore, I noticed that his control is actually very poor. Being a zerg player, zergling micro is not that hard, simply surround and destroy. Your ability to micromanage zerglings is more based on your opponent's placement and understanding of your strategy. His mutalisk is average, and his decision making skills are poor to say the least.

He does not have the ability, or chooses not to play the standard zerg style. After a while, people will recognize him and counter-act him accordingly. Boxer is the perfect example, he likes to cheeze, and if you'll notice, many smart players scout earlier because of this against him.

In addition, the mistakes he made against Bisu were inexcusable and downright pathetic. If you can't do the basics, that puts your ability into question. I have never watched him 'dominate' a game like Savior can do, he always involves risk and uncertainty.

His macromanagement is terrible.

One thing I do agree, he is the most aggressive zerg to the point of stupidity I have ever seen. And the only thing that goes through his mind is KILL KILL KILL. And his play portrays that.

The only good that comes out of him is Savior can watch the wacky shit he does and maybe add to his own playstyles. The 1 hatch play was genius. [Sam] is just stupid, and sloppy to the point where it makes the other player seem sloppy.
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tehAscender
Profile Joined April 2007
94 Posts
October 28 2007 21:06 GMT
#74
BTW: Check out Magma[S.G], I have my mind on him and Jaedong as the next big zerg. GGplay is terrible too.
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intotherainx
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States504 Posts
October 28 2007 21:42 GMT
#75
Jaedong as next big zerg? how original.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
October 28 2007 21:48 GMT
#76
On October 29 2007 06:06 tehAscender wrote:
BTW: Check out Magma[S.G], I have my mind on him and Jaedong as the next big zerg. GGplay is terrible too.


Magma? No way bro', check out Haran, that's where it's at.
tehAscender
Profile Joined April 2007
94 Posts
October 28 2007 22:46 GMT
#77
Haran isn't bad, I havn't seen enough to make a decision. He won by more of build order. A condition for me to be a good player is to be able to play straight up.

Jaedong's weakness is his decision making skills, which recently have seemed to improve at a lot. But I always had faith in his potential because of his excellent micro. Arguably, he overfocuses on micro and if he used more of his apm on macro his game improves.

There's actually a trait I like very much that Savior and Bisu portrays that not many others portray. When they get an advantage, they don't keep spamming zerglings or w/e in a quick attempt to end it, but they rather, macro up and play a longer game, with this advantage rather then try to end it quickly and hence their greater consistency.

Any comments on Magma though? He's been around for a while but only noticed him now. Good example is with his game against Boxer. Excellent micro and decision making.
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Quesadilla
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1814 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-29 03:02:41
October 28 2007 23:36 GMT
#78
+ Show Spoiler +
Personally, I think Kwanro is still a really dope player. Personally, to me, it looked more like he choked, not suffered from his bad skills. If you noticed, his macro was off, micro was panicked, econ was low... he played very skittish. He made some careless mistakes for a pro to make, like the overlord loss to the cannon in game 3. In moments like that alone I am convinced that it was an instance of choking and not lack of skill. I'm holding out to see him in the future. Everybody should get more than one chance, especially after brutally raping players like Light in legit tournaments.
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pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5094 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-29 03:03:44
October 29 2007 00:31 GMT
#79
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yea i think he choked too =(
he made too many mistakes for it to be "because he is a non-skilled player" than "paniced". I still think he's a very good player with potential. Maybe it's just because he's up against Bisu and he just shat his pants (I would) and played horribly.

Of course that is another thing too, to control your nerves. However I think he'll have plenty of opportunities in the future to train that =D
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
October 29 2007 01:20 GMT
#80
wow so long and so god, i admire non macro based play, i can't wati to see some more kwanro games
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Genjimaru
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada515 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-29 03:03:14
October 29 2007 02:18 GMT
#81
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I put it in sAviOr's hands to avenge him.
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
October 29 2007 03:09 GMT
#82
People, the game between bisu and kwanro was played only a couple of days ago and the vods have been available for even shorter.

Please be considerate of others who may not know the results yet and cloak your statements using the "spoiler" function. In particular, please think before you post the next time you decide to write comments on the results of a match in a thread that is on a different topic.

Thanks for understanding.
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a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5085 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-29 03:19:38
October 29 2007 03:17 GMT
#83
well if people want to avoid spoilers they should use the forum intelligently. i think this thread is one of those ones that you would avoid if you were worried about seeing bisu vs kwanro results, because obviously people are going to come to this thread to discuss what happened in that match.

that's just my opinion though, i mean i'm one of the bigger anti-spoiler nazis on TL but i think this is a thread where i would expect spoilers to be and i would use my own discretion to avoid it until i was up to date, i don't think it should be up to the thread participants to cloak their words in this thread specifically.

edit: the biggest problem is when spoilers are posted in such a way that they "blindside" people, whereas this thread is one where you would expect discussions involving recent kwanro matches to take place, and nobody can claim to be blindsided if they decide to enter here
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mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
October 29 2007 03:34 GMT
#84
While I would agree generally that people need to browse intelligently, this is a thread that got started a while ago and the discussions focused on several past matches of kwanro. If you recently took notice of the thread, sure you should probably expect to see the bisu match being mentioned. But if you were in on the discussions from the start, and was not aware that the bisu match was going to be played this past weekend, one may be excused for being "blindsided" as you put it. I know that is exactly what happened to several people here (and I do not consider any of them unintelligent).

Now my point may not make as much sense if we did not have a spoiler device that is functional and easy to use. But we do. All I am requiring is a bit of consideration. I am uncertain why anyone should object to this. And anyway, your opinion appears to be in the minority, so that should be enough.

If anyone wants to comment further on this, please PM me. Back on topic please.
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hwasingodlysense
Profile Joined August 2007
79 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-29 19:04:07
October 29 2007 18:55 GMT
#85
On October 29 2007 06:48 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2007 06:06 tehAscender wrote:
BTW: Check out Magma[S.G], I have my mind on him and Jaedong as the next big zerg. GGplay is terrible too.

Magma? No way bro', check out Haran, that's where it's at.

to battle it out against anytime as haran did. its because he is really good.
now is when the great jaedong(lecaf oz team) comes to mind.
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Quesadilla
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1814 Posts
October 30 2007 01:43 GMT
#86
Who wants to post after all that.......
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
August 18 2009 07:32 GMT
#87
Bump.

From humble beginnings to MSL semifinalist!!
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jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
August 18 2009 07:43 GMT
#88
lol kwanro is going to take this msl
Gonozal
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Germany320 Posts
August 18 2009 08:07 GMT
#89
i need 15minutes to get it that this was an old article T_T
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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
August 18 2009 08:11 GMT
#90
On August 18 2009 16:32 Plexa wrote:
Bump.

From humble beginnings to MSL semifinalist!!

ur rly rooting for him huh!
iono Krawnwrnfro is bit too relentless, like julyzerg, and gets carried away and stopps thinking then lose
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
August 18 2009 09:23 GMT
#91
Yea, but its still madly entertaining to watch :D
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
August 18 2009 09:33 GMT
#92
defo entertaining
but i think iris will get to finals >_>

lol imagine 2 zvz finals though
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ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
August 18 2009 12:00 GMT
#93
On August 18 2009 18:33 alffla wrote:
defo entertaining
but i think iris will get to finals >_>

lol imagine 2 zvz finals though


Oh god, that would be awful for the fans, especially since jaedong vs yarnc will be a rape considering how badly jaedong wants to win. But as a cj fan, I can't root against kwanro or iris.
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MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
August 18 2009 12:06 GMT
#94
haha epic bump plexa
dats racist
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
August 18 2009 13:52 GMT
#95
kwanro is fucking terrible, he has no business being in an MSL semi lol
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jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
August 18 2009 13:54 GMT
#96
i don't think that he'll make it to the finals. it will be tough but iris will fight him down. i predict a 3-2 or 3-1 in favor for iris.
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8087 Posts
August 18 2009 14:31 GMT
#97
sorry but calm > kwanro
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Hyperionnn
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Turkey4968 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-18 14:38:18
August 18 2009 14:36 GMT
#98
Amazing write up but

then he got owned 0-3 against bisu (he sent his lings to wrong pos in 1 game iirc)

edit: holy fuck this is from 2007 T_T
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
August 18 2009 15:21 GMT
#99
Nice read, and nice bump, hahaha. I'd like to see him win, but I'm doubting it.
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
August 18 2009 15:40 GMT
#100
nice read
great bump by whoever.
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Dknight
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States5223 Posts
August 18 2009 15:58 GMT
#101
On August 18 2009 17:07 Gonozal wrote:
i need 15minutes to get it that this was an old article T_T


Me too. =[ Only when I scrolled to see how long it was did I see "Old Post" and it dawned on me.
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blahman3344
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2015 Posts
August 18 2009 16:29 GMT
#102
i realized this was old when i read a comment saying "bisu needs to take his 3rd msl" lol
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
August 18 2009 18:47 GMT
#103
never realized kwanro was around this long
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andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
August 18 2009 20:50 GMT
#104
Great read <3 Awesome job
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GoSu
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Korea (South)1773 Posts
August 18 2009 21:49 GMT
#105
oh just read this. great stuff!
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Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
August 18 2009 21:50 GMT
#106
Great read, accept or get ready to be KWANROLLED. Thanks for this
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Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States852 Posts
August 19 2009 00:55 GMT
#107
On October 13 2007 20:14 Plexa wrote:In this period of protoss domination, who is the next hope of zerg?

Madness? THIS. IS. 2008!
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
August 19 2009 13:57 GMT
#108
Heh, this article reminds me of old times. Kwanro is good, but I don't think he is going to be a dominant zerg player. This is the era of Jaedong
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skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
August 19 2009 15:27 GMT
#109
On August 19 2009 22:57 meegrean wrote:
Heh, this article reminds me of old times. Kwanro is good, but I don't think he is going to be a dominant zerg player. This is the era of Jaedong

yes, hindsight is 20/20
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