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opterown
Australia54785 Posts
On April 24 2013 12:52 Forikorder wrote: ... so? everyone knows how his game persona is i was talking about his real life persona which Lz doesnt really know but gosi was talking about his in-game interactions | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On April 24 2013 13:12 opterown wrote: but gosi was talking about his in-game interactions he certainly didnt sound like it, he said it as if he was actually saying something that was important to the discussion instead of jsut regurgitating stuff that was already known by everyone i guess it was jsut some miscommunication | ||
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Fortii
Germany760 Posts
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Vinand
Netherlands159 Posts
On April 23 2013 16:23 GoldenGun wrote: Its pretty disgusting the amount of hate coming from twitch chat. When he wins a game its tamed. When he lose...you just want to backhand all of them lol. Like Minigun recently said: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1cw5yb/i_am_unhappy_with_the_hostility_of_the_starcraft/c9kjj09 'anonymity + audience + 13 years old = I get to be a total fuck face" | ||
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Deleted User 137586
7859 Posts
Link to the tournament: ShoutCraft Also, the tournament adopts the GSL, WCS style 4 man groups which means a single player (*cough* Minigun *cough* will not be as detrimental to IdrA's success). *The actual organizer of the event is Genna Bain, Totalbiscuit's wife. As she is not as well known, I put the famous guy first. Please crucify me for sexism. | ||
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Fortii
Germany760 Posts
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Betsfrox
Venezuela248 Posts
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4ZakeN87
Sweden1071 Posts
On April 24 2013 18:43 Fortii wrote: since this shoutcraft thing is the tournament style idra wanted, lets hope he will play&do well in there. Have my doubts. He needs to stop whining about balance 24/7 if he hopes to win anything. If you blame all your loses on inbalance you don't look for solutions and you don't develop. The only thing that happens is that you strengthen your own conclusions of "imbalance" as it causes you to lose. Idra has the problem that he thinks himself to be a superior player and thus he instantly jumps to the conclusion that imbalance/"unworthy" play is the cause of his loss <-- This conclusion have ~0% chance of improving your gameplay. Analyze what went wrong, what and when you need to scout and then make a plan for how to adapt the next time you scout this pattern. Little more of this, and a little less of "shit fucktard terran player" and Idra has the potential to beat anyone. I think few people argues about his potential skill level. It is just that he is his own worst enemy. | ||
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chinboii
41 Posts
On April 25 2013 06:08 4ZakeN87 wrote: Have my doubts. He needs to stop whining about balance 24/7 if he hopes to win anything. If you blame all your loses on inbalance you don't look for solutions and you don't develop. The only thing that happens is that you strengthen your own conclusions of "imbalance" as it causes you to lose. Idra has the problem that he thinks himself to be a superior player and thus he instantly jumps to the conclusion that imbalance/"unworthy" play is the cause of his loss <-- This conclusion have ~0% chance of improving your gameplay. Analyze what went wrong, what and when you need to scout and then make a plan for how to adapt the next time you scout this pattern. Little more of this, and a little less of "shit fucktard terran player" and Idra has the potential to beat anyone. I think few people argues about his potential skill level. It is just that he is his own worst enemy. To be honest all the 'this player is shit' calling comes out of his mouth so often that I don't think it means anything anymore, its just a random thought coming into his mind at the time. He's a pro gamer, so I think it's fairly easy to say that he does analyse his replays and see what goes wrong. You don't know him personally and everything you said can't be backed up. He has stated in interviews before that just because something is imbalance doesn't stop him in figuring out how to beat it. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On April 25 2013 06:26 chinboii wrote: To be honest all the 'this player is shit' calling comes out of his mouth so often that I don't think it means anything anymore, its just a random thought coming into his mind at the time. He's a pro gamer, so I think it's fairly easy to say that he does analyse his replays and see what goes wrong. You don't know him personally and everything you said can't be backed up. He has stated in interviews before that just because something is imbalance doesn't stop him in figuring out how to beat it. Pretty much this. I know I think to myself when I lose sometimes that I lost to a shit player even though it's just anger and later I know that player I lost to wasn't shit (most of the time  ).I am pretty sure he doesn't think demuslim is a shit player and just said it out of anger/habit. It's also a lot easier to say as soon as you lose to x race that x race is imbalanced, but after cooling off the player (me for instance and I imagine most) know what they did wrong and what they can do different. People take what Idra says after a loss way to seriously like it's lol worthy how many people take it seriously xD | ||
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4ZakeN87
Sweden1071 Posts
On April 25 2013 06:49 blade55555 wrote: Pretty much this. I know I think to myself when I lose sometimes that I lost to a shit player even though it's just anger and later I know that player I lost to wasn't shit (most of the time ).I am pretty sure he doesn't think demuslim is a shit player and just said it out of anger/habit. It's also a lot easier to say as soon as you lose to x race that x race is imbalanced, but after cooling off the player (me for instance and I imagine most) know what they did wrong and what they can do different. People take what Idra says after a loss way to seriously like it's lol worthy how many people take it seriously xD Well apparently he is greatly under performing compared to his potential and I think it is clear for everyone to see that it is his state of mind that is his greatest opponent. If he does not think about imbalance/blame the imbalance he sure does at least spend a substantial part of his time to talk about it. After all is the consensus among pros that the game seems relatively well balanced and it is still hard to tell what could be actual imbalance.are yet. | ||
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Fortii
Germany760 Posts
On April 25 2013 09:06 4ZakeN87 wrote: Well apparently he is greatly under performing compared to his potential and I think it is clear for everyone to see that it is his state of mind that is his greatest opponent. If he does not think about imbalance/blame the imbalance he sure does at least spend a substantial part of his time to talk about it. After all is the consensus among pros that the game seems relatively well balanced and it is still hard to tell what could be actual imbalance.are yet. actually the consensus among pros is that terran is too strong in several ways and skytoss is unbeatable for zerg. | ||
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opterown
Australia54785 Posts
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Fortii
Germany760 Posts
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Fortii
Germany760 Posts
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Rulker
United States1477 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=408919 | ||
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nmetasch
United States600 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
Pretty much this. I know I think to myself when I lose sometimes that I lost to a shit player even though it's just anger and later I know that player I lost to wasn't shit (most of the time ). this is me pretty much, first 30 seconds after a loss just screaming rage in my head then i cool down and point out my flaws Skytoss is not at all unbeatable, in fact it is very simple and requires good micro. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=408919 the fact you try to describe that strat as simple boggles my mind andthe strat relies around basically losing your first army and hoping you killed enough you survive to remax makes me wonder how well that strat would actually work against a Protoss who turtles and goes for a halfmap situation (like hasuobs VS bly) and just sits over a good defensive position and engages in chokes like on daybreak if the Protoss secures the middle he can always force you to engage in the choke and then just always deny the 12 o'clock and 5 o'clock bases while sitting on even bases and starve you out | ||
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radscorpion9
Canada2252 Posts
Like we definitely don't know what's going on, maybe he's just saying demuslim is terrible but doesn't mean it. Its just that logically, you can deduce that there are only going to be a certain number of factors that prevent him from playing his best. So you can make a list, and you see that its either mindset or motivation, or you just conclude depressingly that this is his best. Maybe having a girlfriend motivated him? Is that what the problem is? All we can do is speculate, but I feel like there are only a limited number of possibilities here. | ||
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chinboii
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