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On May 17 2012 13:39 RUS RO DAH!!! wrote: If Idra really does hate SC2 so much then why not go back to Broodwar? Maybe he should have never switched games in the first place.
Because it's a dead game outside of Korea, and is in the process of dying in Korea.
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On May 17 2012 13:39 RUS RO DAH!!! wrote: If Idra really does hate SC2 so much then why not go back to Broodwar? Maybe he should have never switched games in the first place. cause BW is switching to SC2...
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First MU is vs Socke in Spring arena 2 :/
I hope he does not get sent to losers first round. He really does not need that :|
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Please tell me he didn't drop macro games against STX..
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On May 17 2012 19:06 Aocowns wrote: Please tell me he didn't drop macro games against STX..
g1 was a 2 base push by STX, with hellions and rines and medivacs
g2 was a longer game with both on 3 bases, both armies moved out at the same time and idra went for a base trade instead of attacking the army as it was moving out and unsieged, he made STX lift most of his shit and then went back to kill STX's army but didn't have enough as idra lost a ton of banes, exploding them on buildings etc
if he had had banes in g1 he could have held but i dunno, as for g2 he could have engaged the army and probably won from there but I'm not sure if he spotted that it had moved out and i dunno his reasoning for continuing a basetrade after he realised there was no army at STX's base
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On May 17 2012 19:32 mememolly wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2012 19:06 Aocowns wrote: Please tell me he didn't drop macro games against STX.. g1 was a 2 base push by STX, with hellions and rines and medivacs g2 was a longer game with both on 3 bases, both armies moved out at the same time and idra went for a base trade instead of attacking the army as it was moving out and unsieged, he made STX lift most of his shit and then went back to kill STX's army but didn't have enough as idra lost a ton of banes, exploding them on buildings etc if he had had banes in g1 he could have held but i dunno, as for g2 he could have engaged the army and probably won from there but I'm not sure if he spotted that it had moved out and i dunno his reasoning for continuing a basetrade after he realised there was no army at STX's base So game 1 was a close loss, and g2 was a retarded decision to try a basetrade agaisnt terran without mutas....? He used infestor style, right?
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On May 17 2012 19:40 Aocowns wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2012 19:32 mememolly wrote:On May 17 2012 19:06 Aocowns wrote: Please tell me he didn't drop macro games against STX.. g1 was a 2 base push by STX, with hellions and rines and medivacs g2 was a longer game with both on 3 bases, both armies moved out at the same time and idra went for a base trade instead of attacking the army as it was moving out and unsieged, he made STX lift most of his shit and then went back to kill STX's army but didn't have enough as idra lost a ton of banes, exploding them on buildings etc if he had had banes in g1 he could have held but i dunno, as for g2 he could have engaged the army and probably won from there but I'm not sure if he spotted that it had moved out and i dunno his reasoning for continuing a basetrade after he realised there was no army at STX's base So game 1 was a close loss, and g2 was a retarded decision to try a basetrade agaisnt terran without mutas....? He used infestor style, right? Yeah you know IdrA, he's gonna grind a style out no matter what :/
Man, I'd prefer if IdrA take a few days off after MLG and play something else, Diablo 3 for example, to get the stress off. This is killing my heart 
BTW guys, I'm a noob and in no way able to think like the pros and may be because the casters overplayed this too much, but do you think his problem is not macro, micro or anything but decision making? He makes really weird decision sometimes :/
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On May 17 2012 21:08 mlm wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2012 19:40 Aocowns wrote:On May 17 2012 19:32 mememolly wrote:On May 17 2012 19:06 Aocowns wrote: Please tell me he didn't drop macro games against STX.. g1 was a 2 base push by STX, with hellions and rines and medivacs g2 was a longer game with both on 3 bases, both armies moved out at the same time and idra went for a base trade instead of attacking the army as it was moving out and unsieged, he made STX lift most of his shit and then went back to kill STX's army but didn't have enough as idra lost a ton of banes, exploding them on buildings etc if he had had banes in g1 he could have held but i dunno, as for g2 he could have engaged the army and probably won from there but I'm not sure if he spotted that it had moved out and i dunno his reasoning for continuing a basetrade after he realised there was no army at STX's base So game 1 was a close loss, and g2 was a retarded decision to try a basetrade agaisnt terran without mutas....? He used infestor style, right? Yeah you know IdrA, he's gonna grind a style out no matter what :/ Man, I'd prefer if IdrA take a few days off after MLG and play something else, Diablo 3 for example, to get the stress off. This is killing my heart  BTW guys, I'm a noob and in no way able to think like the pros and may be because the casters overplayed this too much, but do you think his problem is not macro, micro or anything but decision making? He makes really weird decision sometimes :/ I haven't gotten to watch his games in a while, since he has not streamed, and the games have all been pay to watch or at 4AM for Europeans, but as far as I have noticed, he lacks in decision making and general army management. His specific unit micro, like with mutas and ling/bane is exceptional, but for example his roach army, and his infestor broodlord army always seem to caught at bad angles, missing opportunities, or giving the opponent opportunities. His macro has always been incredible, and it still is incredible so there's nothing to say on that.
Besides, he said he didn't find Diablo 3 to be any fun whatsoever He had played the Beta with the EG guys, but he said he found it pointless and boring or something like that.
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im pretty sure greg tunes in to GSL, and i know that he knows yugioh too. personally being the biggest yugioh fan, watched games 1-3 yugioh vs MKP, even under the worst odds, he made it through. nothing extremely creative from yugioh, but he sure did make the situation to the best of his ability. despite screwing up a few times, he took down MKP.
and out of all of SlayerS he is the only to make code S.
great mentality, full of determination on his face.
Certainly inspiring no?
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Greg needs to take a break from SC2 until he feels like playing again. He just doesn't care at all about the most crucial aspects of the game.
Calling it now: Greg's going to slump for a little while longer, hit a personal rock-bottom, have a moment of clarity, then come back and dominate. But it's going to be a rough year or two for him.
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He'll be back. Everyone wrote off MVP a few months ago and now he's about to win GSL #4. Same shit here.
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On May 17 2012 21:17 Aocowns wrote:I haven't gotten to watch his games in a while, since he has not streamed, and the games have all been pay to watch or at 4AM for Europeans, but as far as I have noticed, he lacks in decision making and general army management. His specific unit micro, like with mutas and ling/bane is exceptional, but for example his roach army, and his infestor broodlord army always seem to caught at bad angles, missing opportunities, or giving the opponent opportunities. His macro has always been incredible, and it still is incredible so there's nothing to say on that. Besides, he said he didn't find Diablo 3 to be any fun whatsoever  He had played the Beta with the EG guys, but he said he found it pointless and boring or something like that.
Any game might work, I just gave an example :D
BTW, I wonder how someone in IdrA's position can improve decision making skill though. With mechanics you can grind it out till it's hardcoded into your head, but with decision making, not so much so. SC2 depends too much on decision making skill though
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On May 17 2012 19:40 Aocowns wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2012 19:32 mememolly wrote:On May 17 2012 19:06 Aocowns wrote: Please tell me he didn't drop macro games against STX.. g1 was a 2 base push by STX, with hellions and rines and medivacs g2 was a longer game with both on 3 bases, both armies moved out at the same time and idra went for a base trade instead of attacking the army as it was moving out and unsieged, he made STX lift most of his shit and then went back to kill STX's army but didn't have enough as idra lost a ton of banes, exploding them on buildings etc if he had had banes in g1 he could have held but i dunno, as for g2 he could have engaged the army and probably won from there but I'm not sure if he spotted that it had moved out and i dunno his reasoning for continuing a basetrade after he realised there was no army at STX's base So game 1 was a close loss, and g2 was a retarded decision to try a basetrade agaisnt terran without mutas....? He used infestor style, right?
g1 wasn't really close, it was basically a BO win, idra just didn't scout correctly or prepare enough, he just needed a banenest and a ling scouting for when STX moved out
he needs some serious mental coaching i think, I'm not sure what EG does for him but they need to step in and say something imo
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On May 17 2012 23:31 mememolly wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2012 19:40 Aocowns wrote:On May 17 2012 19:32 mememolly wrote:On May 17 2012 19:06 Aocowns wrote: Please tell me he didn't drop macro games against STX.. g1 was a 2 base push by STX, with hellions and rines and medivacs g2 was a longer game with both on 3 bases, both armies moved out at the same time and idra went for a base trade instead of attacking the army as it was moving out and unsieged, he made STX lift most of his shit and then went back to kill STX's army but didn't have enough as idra lost a ton of banes, exploding them on buildings etc if he had had banes in g1 he could have held but i dunno, as for g2 he could have engaged the army and probably won from there but I'm not sure if he spotted that it had moved out and i dunno his reasoning for continuing a basetrade after he realised there was no army at STX's base So game 1 was a close loss, and g2 was a retarded decision to try a basetrade agaisnt terran without mutas....? He used infestor style, right? g1 wasn't really close, it was basically a BO win, idra just didn't scout correctly or prepare enough, he just needed a banenest and a ling scouting for when STX moved out he needs some serious mental coaching i think, I'm not sure what EG does for him but they need to step in and say something imo
He need to talk with Alex Garfield again, Last time he did that he beat boxer and bomber if he did that now he could win whole Spring arena!
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I'm not the biggest IdrA fan but i like him and seeing SC2 without IdrA would be really, really strange/kind of sad. I personally hope he has a break, maybe a few months off and comes back fully motivated to crush some skull
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On May 17 2012 13:39 RUS RO DAH!!! wrote: If Idra really does hate SC2 so much then why not go back to Broodwar? Maybe he should have never switched games in the first place.
Because throwing away a career that gives you 80,000$+ a year just to play some game is retarded. If he really just doesn't like the scene he should go study.
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I don't even think he hates the game, you can clearly see when he enjoys playing and when he doesn't. He loves to play against good players that he respects, but he also hates to play against cheesy and "bad" players and that's why he loses against them so badly, he doesn't want to play them. When he plays against Koreans he always plays so well and and gives the viewer a good show, but against "bad" players, early gg's and bad decisions. He needs to be able to play with the same skill against any kind of opponents, it's sad that he can't do that now.
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IDRAAA!!!!!!! I felt like spontaneously typing it in caps lock
Hope he beats Socke ^^
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On May 17 2012 23:13 rogzardo wrote: He'll be back. Everyone wrote off MVP a few months ago and now he's about to win GSL #4. Same shit here.
the difference is that MVP had an injury that hurt his play and still does a bit.. IdrA does not :[
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