The IdrA Fan Club - Page 1726

On February 13 2012 14:09 Chewbacca. wrote:
I like how everyone is bitching at Idra for doing 2 allins, but completely ignoring the fact that Alive did 2 allins..

On February 13 2012 14:47 DirtyLemons wrote:
About people talking about IdrAs all-ins vs. Alives all ins, assuming that we will put 2 six pools in the same category as a hellion and 2-rax all in there is a concept in American Football that distinguishes between a genius and stupid call by a coach. It is entirely based upon the outcome, the perception of a decision made my someone in a place of power is always judged on whether it is successful or not. For those who know American Football during the 2010-11 season Bill Bellicheks decision to go on it on 4th down against the colts and the Saints half-time superbowl onside kick are a classic example of two decisions thats perception from the masses is entirely based upon the outcome. If IdrAs 6 pool in game 3 had worked as it nearly had then we would have an entirely different thread. In my personal opinion IdrA chose corssfire and 6 pooled because he knew what Alive was going to do, he took a risk. Because that risk hadn't payed off it seemed like there was little logic behind it and thus IdrA was tilting. I don't think anyone viewed the game 4 six pool as anything but tilt, I think he tilted from game 3 not games 1 and 2 though. I think that this was not a series that IdrA lost but a series that Alive won, he defended a 6 pool he should have lost too, his proxy took a dimension that was prepared for said six pool and thus he was able to pull off a miracle defense and win the game. It is absolutely vital in my opinion that IdrA chose crossfire which no one would argue is zerg favored. IdrA's master plan fell through due to an amazing play by Alive, thus leading to the game 4 tilt. I hope my line of logic can be followed, I'm not a great writer.

On February 13 2012 14:47 DirtyLemons wrote:
About people talking about IdrAs all-ins vs. Alives all ins, assuming that we will put 2 six pools in the same category as a hellion and 2-rax all in there is a concept in American Football that distinguishes between a genius and stupid call by a coach. It is entirely based upon the outcome, the perception of a decision made my someone in a place of power is always judged on whether it is successful or not. For those who know American Football during the 2010-11 season Bill Bellicheks decision to go on it on 4th down against the colts and the Saints half-time superbowl onside kick are a classic example of two decisions thats perception from the masses is entirely based upon the outcome. If IdrAs 6 pool in game 3 had worked as it nearly had then we would have an entirely different thread. In my personal opinion IdrA chose corssfire and 6 pooled because he knew what Alive was going to do, he took a risk. Because that risk hadn't payed off it seemed like there was little logic behind it and thus IdrA was tilting. I don't think anyone viewed the game 4 six pool as anything but tilt, I think he tilted from game 3 not games 1 and 2 though. I think that this was not a series that IdrA lost but a series that Alive won, he defended a 6 pool he should have lost too, his proxy took a dimension that was prepared for said six pool and thus he was able to pull off a miracle defense and win the game. It is absolutely vital in my opinion that IdrA chose crossfire which no one would argue is zerg favored. IdrA's master plan fell through due to an amazing play by Alive, thus leading to the game 4 tilt. I hope my line of logic can be followed, I'm not a great writer.

On February 13 2012 14:36 SC2NeCro wrote:
I don't mean to offend anyone but, am I the only one who'd like to see him switch back to Terran like in BW? I just have this strange feeling that it's his calling. A Terran with crazy mechanics would be a sight to see. Sometimes when you're struggling a change is necessary, not saying that's the case here but it's a suggestion.

I watched some of the matches in BW he had and he looked really awesome. Just thinking out loud.

On February 13 2012 15:34 Danzo wrote:
Boxer bunker rushed in his osl finals. Does that mean he was throwing away the games?

On February 13 2012 15:28 borny wrote:
there is NO WAY a zerg can defeat a terran with a six pool on current maps (unless the terran does something retarded) and thus I think this was a total throw-away and Idra should be treated just like Naniwa was.

On February 13 2012 15:34 Danzo wrote:
Boxer bunker rushed in his osl finals. Does that mean he was throwing away the games?

On February 13 2012 15:38 Mycl wrote:


NO WAY can a player lose!....except if they make a poor choice. This entire game is centered around decisions and reactions so I am not sure whats your point.

On February 13 2012 15:28 borny wrote:
there is NO WAY a zerg can defeat a terran with a six pool on current maps (unless the terran does something retarded) and thus I think this was a total throw-away and Idra should be treated just like Naniwa was.

On February 13 2012 14:26 Antimatterz wrote:
I'm not gonna lie, playing zerg right now actually is fucking hell. I'm extremely close to taking a long, peaceful break and just not playing Starcraft for a while. ZvP feels almost impossible to win, terrans are much better at abusing cheese or strategies than they used to, and ZvZ is still stressful as hell. There is only one zerg in Code S now (DongRaeGu), 4 toss, and 3 terrans. All of the zergs that I thought would advance have gone to Code A, and might be knocked to Code B. I have only seen one zerg beat a toss in GSL so far (DongRaeGu, but I know there are a few other series zergs won, just haven't found them yet). People are bitching about how IdrA is just giving up, and that he sucks, and that he is going to drop off the face of the earth.

IdrA wouldn't be practicing in Korea, with SLAYERS FOR GODS SAKE, if he was giving up. IdrA wouldn't be playing these showmatches if he was giving up. Explain to me how someone is bad if they are top 100 Korean GM. Sure, IdrA may be in a slump. But a lot of fucking zergs are in a slump right now. IdrA has been in Korea only a 2 months, and your expecting him to beat the highest caliber of Korean on the planet. He is probably putting more effort and time into Starcraft than you have put into almost anything in life right now, and your talking about how your "no longer a fan after seeing him cheese".

On February 13 2012 14:56 Antimatterz wrote:
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On February 13 2012 14:56 Antimatterz wrote:
There are people in denial here, but I know how IdrA is feeling. Hes working his ass off, not getting results yet, and is used to seeing those wins just wracking up. But he is playing people who are just on a new level compared to the foreign scene, and nothing but pure hard work is going to get him on the same level. He probably did give up on that series; would you have played your best after losing those 2 games, knowing your against one of the best players on the planet, and that you still have a ways to go in practice to reach that level?

Just think about how much mental effort it takes to ladder. Now put that into playing against the best players in the world, who have mastered every trick, every abusive tactic that makes your life hell. Now put $400 on the line, playing in front of 10,000 people. Now do that after losing 2 games in a row, to stuff that you have always been frustrated by, and play a potential 6 more games of that.

That is the life of a foreigner in Korea, every day, for their job. I hardly think we are qualified to discuss how disappointing games that pros play (not just IdrA, but HuK, Socke, Naniwa, and everyone else).