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On February 13 2012 21:32 leavemealone wrote:
any1 has a statistic based on facts, win% of idra when he decides to cheese or all-in early in the game ?(tour games only)
six pool is auto loose for idra (i remember like 6-7 games , tournaments)
7 roach timing with lings is something like 40% win ( i remeber smthing like 3-4 games , tournaments)
hydra rush all in (nydus , spine , drop) 80-90% win ( 5-6 games , tournaments , if they are consider cheese , all in)
sorry not smthing to show u only from my memory.
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On February 13 2012 21:35 walklightwhat wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 21:30 Stiluz wrote:
/r/sc and their pitchforks makes me lose faith in humanity. If people obsess so much about a player they obviously despise....
It's like in football, where you have the people that care about their own team and cheer for them, and then you have the idiots that just cheer against a team due to some misconstrued hate. Popular opinion on /r/sc changes with the breeze. One day hate, next day love, rinse and repeat.
Its true, as soon as idra starts winning again everyone will be talking about how much his mentality has improved.
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On February 13 2012 21:27 Reivax wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 13 2012 17:23 urashimakt wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 16:46 DeflowSC2 wrote:
Sign me out of this group. Honestly IdrA is not the player he once was, he is a douche, even to his fans that love him. He has always been a jerk, the only difference now is that he's a losing jerk as you stated in the Stephano fan club. If anything his attitude may have improved since joining EG. If he stays in Korea long enough to start winning again I'll be looking to see if you're back in here. He is definately not a jerk to his fans. I ran into him briefly at DH winter and both he and HuK were nice enough to pose for a photo and exchange a few words. He and HuK were waiting for PuMa who was giving an interview. He seemed quite relaxed, and was all around nice albeit brief as they had to go eat I believe.
Agreed. I met him at the NASL finals, and he was awesome. He signed my shirt, and even let me hug him.
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at least im not the only one who wants to hug idra ^^
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I decide not to watch starcraft for 2 days and a shit storm occurs here. Guess I'll have to stop reading the fan club for a couple of days. The amount of negativity here by some is beyond retarded.
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On February 13 2012 17:21 BlondeOna wrote:
IdrA never gg's in showmatches, team leagues or casual games. And I 100% agree with this. There's just no need to. The term has surpassed it's literal meaning, if it wasn't a GOOD GAME then he doesn't need to say it.
Don't get all riled up over this now, IdrA has never GG'd in somewhat meaningless things like this.
Any true IdrA fan knows he tilts hard, always has and always will, and any true IdrA fan is disappointed in IdrA 95% of the time, and they want him to succeed, and he wants himself to succeed. That's why we sit and wait for that tournament he absolutely destroys (MLG) and makes us all proud.
Also, being IdrA, you would just get to the point where you've faced so many all-ins because most players are more than likely hesitant to go against you in a macro game (especially ZvT) that you just can't justify a gg.
I was waiting for you to post this, your probably the one saying that in the chat during the games. Seriously I don't know how you could be more wrong, there is a gamer etiquette! And Idra just does not bloody respect it that's it. There is NO reason not to, good or bad game being rushed or not it's part of the game, you still need to Good Game in the end.
You can read this on Liquipedia
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Gamer_Etiquette
The etiquette is in every match you say GG a the end for the loosing side.
Now I don't know if you played golf before but your logic works in the way that if tiger woods does not have a good game then he should not follow golf etiquette.. he should then walk around with boots and starts swearing a screaming when other players are playing... NO there's a golf etiquette to follow for a reason same for gamers and it's there for the respect of other players and the people watching, not to do only if the game is a good game. I don't care if it's idra or any other players.
My post is not about the situation on nasl directly it's just a response to your post.
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On February 13 2012 22:12 LorD_AreS wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 17:21 BlondeOna wrote:
IdrA never gg's in showmatches, team leagues or casual games. And I 100% agree with this. There's just no need to. The term has surpassed it's literal meaning, if it wasn't a GOOD GAME then he doesn't need to say it.
Don't get all riled up over this now, IdrA has never GG'd in somewhat meaningless things like this.
Any true IdrA fan knows he tilts hard, always has and always will, and any true IdrA fan is disappointed in IdrA 95% of the time, and they want him to succeed, and he wants himself to succeed. That's why we sit and wait for that tournament he absolutely destroys (MLG) and makes us all proud.
Also, being IdrA, you would just get to the point where you've faced so many all-ins because most players are more than likely hesitant to go against you in a macro game (especially ZvT) that you just can't justify a gg.
I was waiting for you to post this, your probably the one saying that in the chat during the games. Seriously I don't know how you could be more wrong, there is a gamer etiquette! And Idra just does not bloody respect it that's it. There is NO reason not to, good or bad game being rushed or not it's part of the game, you still need to Good Game in the end. You can read this on Liquipedia http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Gamer_EtiquetteThe etiquette is in every match you say GG a the end for the loosing side. Now I don't know if you played golf before but your logic works in the way that if tiger woods does not have a good game then he should not follow golf etiquette.. he should then walk around with boots and starts swearing a screaming when other players are playing... NO there's a golf etiquette to follow for a reason same for gamers and it's there for the respect of other players and the people watching, not to do only if the game is a good game. I don't care if it's idra or any other players. My post is not about the situation on nasl directly it's just a response to your post. GG
This isn't Brood War.
You don't get banned for not GGing
Stop acting arrogant and understand the context of his post before you attempt to imply rules that don't exist on someone who hasn't followed them for years.
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On February 13 2012 22:18 Denzil wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 22:12 LorD_AreS wrote:On February 13 2012 17:21 BlondeOna wrote:
IdrA never gg's in showmatches, team leagues or casual games. And I 100% agree with this. There's just no need to. The term has surpassed it's literal meaning, if it wasn't a GOOD GAME then he doesn't need to say it.
Don't get all riled up over this now, IdrA has never GG'd in somewhat meaningless things like this.
Any true IdrA fan knows he tilts hard, always has and always will, and any true IdrA fan is disappointed in IdrA 95% of the time, and they want him to succeed, and he wants himself to succeed. That's why we sit and wait for that tournament he absolutely destroys (MLG) and makes us all proud.
Also, being IdrA, you would just get to the point where you've faced so many all-ins because most players are more than likely hesitant to go against you in a macro game (especially ZvT) that you just can't justify a gg.
I was waiting for you to post this, your probably the one saying that in the chat during the games. Seriously I don't know how you could be more wrong, there is a gamer etiquette! And Idra just does not bloody respect it that's it. There is NO reason not to, good or bad game being rushed or not it's part of the game, you still need to Good Game in the end. You can read this on Liquipedia http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Gamer_EtiquetteThe etiquette is in every match you say GG a the end for the loosing side. Now I don't know if you played golf before but your logic works in the way that if tiger woods does not have a good game then he should not follow golf etiquette.. he should then walk around with boots and starts swearing a screaming when other players are playing... NO there's a golf etiquette to follow for a reason same for gamers and it's there for the respect of other players and the people watching, not to do only if the game is a good game. I don't care if it's idra or any other players. My post is not about the situation on nasl directly it's just a response to your post. GG This isn't Brood War. You don't get banned for not GGing Stop acting arrogant and understand the context of his post before you attempt to imply rules that don't exist on someone who hasn't followed them for years.
I'm not acting arrogant I'm stating facts, funny to say it's not brood war... ok but this talk about starcraft 2. And also the "hasn't followed them for years" no everyone follows it and every Pro gamer GG's So I'm sorry but this response is all defensive and you did not read my post or take the time to visit the Liquipedia link.
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On February 13 2012 22:23 LorD_AreS wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 22:18 Denzil wrote:On February 13 2012 22:12 LorD_AreS wrote:On February 13 2012 17:21 BlondeOna wrote:
IdrA never gg's in showmatches, team leagues or casual games. And I 100% agree with this. There's just no need to. The term has surpassed it's literal meaning, if it wasn't a GOOD GAME then he doesn't need to say it.
Don't get all riled up over this now, IdrA has never GG'd in somewhat meaningless things like this.
Any true IdrA fan knows he tilts hard, always has and always will, and any true IdrA fan is disappointed in IdrA 95% of the time, and they want him to succeed, and he wants himself to succeed. That's why we sit and wait for that tournament he absolutely destroys (MLG) and makes us all proud.
Also, being IdrA, you would just get to the point where you've faced so many all-ins because most players are more than likely hesitant to go against you in a macro game (especially ZvT) that you just can't justify a gg.
I was waiting for you to post this, your probably the one saying that in the chat during the games. Seriously I don't know how you could be more wrong, there is a gamer etiquette! And Idra just does not bloody respect it that's it. There is NO reason not to, good or bad game being rushed or not it's part of the game, you still need to Good Game in the end. You can read this on Liquipedia http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Gamer_EtiquetteThe etiquette is in every match you say GG a the end for the loosing side. Now I don't know if you played golf before but your logic works in the way that if tiger woods does not have a good game then he should not follow golf etiquette.. he should then walk around with boots and starts swearing a screaming when other players are playing... NO there's a golf etiquette to follow for a reason same for gamers and it's there for the respect of other players and the people watching, not to do only if the game is a good game. I don't care if it's idra or any other players. My post is not about the situation on nasl directly it's just a response to your post. GG This isn't Brood War. You don't get banned for not GGing Stop acting arrogant and understand the context of his post before you attempt to imply rules that don't exist on someone who hasn't followed them for years. I'm not acting arrogant I'm stating facts, funny to say it's not brood war... ok but this talk about starcraft 2. And also the "hasn't followed them for years" no everyone follows it and every Pro gamer GG's So I'm sorry but this response is all defensive and you did not read my post or take the time to visite the Liquipedia link.
Your entire Argument is stupid. If someone doesn't GG it isn't equivalent to walking around, swearing and screaming. Nothing happens and no one gives a shit.
I have no problem with people respecting "mannered" players. But I respect players who play like men and are passionate about the game.
To be honest if you lose someone's respect because you didn't GG in a game. That persons respect wasn't worth having.
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On February 13 2012 22:23 LorD_AreS wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 22:18 Denzil wrote:On February 13 2012 22:12 LorD_AreS wrote:On February 13 2012 17:21 BlondeOna wrote:
IdrA never gg's in showmatches, team leagues or casual games. And I 100% agree with this. There's just no need to. The term has surpassed it's literal meaning, if it wasn't a GOOD GAME then he doesn't need to say it.
Don't get all riled up over this now, IdrA has never GG'd in somewhat meaningless things like this.
Any true IdrA fan knows he tilts hard, always has and always will, and any true IdrA fan is disappointed in IdrA 95% of the time, and they want him to succeed, and he wants himself to succeed. That's why we sit and wait for that tournament he absolutely destroys (MLG) and makes us all proud.
Also, being IdrA, you would just get to the point where you've faced so many all-ins because most players are more than likely hesitant to go against you in a macro game (especially ZvT) that you just can't justify a gg.
I was waiting for you to post this, your probably the one saying that in the chat during the games. Seriously I don't know how you could be more wrong, there is a gamer etiquette! And Idra just does not bloody respect it that's it. There is NO reason not to, good or bad game being rushed or not it's part of the game, you still need to Good Game in the end. You can read this on Liquipedia http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Gamer_EtiquetteThe etiquette is in every match you say GG a the end for the loosing side. Now I don't know if you played golf before but your logic works in the way that if tiger woods does not have a good game then he should not follow golf etiquette.. he should then walk around with boots and starts swearing a screaming when other players are playing... NO there's a golf etiquette to follow for a reason same for gamers and it's there for the respect of other players and the people watching, not to do only if the game is a good game. I don't care if it's idra or any other players. My post is not about the situation on nasl directly it's just a response to your post. GG This isn't Brood War. You don't get banned for not GGing Stop acting arrogant and understand the context of his post before you attempt to imply rules that don't exist on someone who hasn't followed them for years. I'm not acting arrogant I'm stating facts, funny to say it's not brood war... ok but this talk about starcraft 2. And also the "hasn't followed them for years" no everyone follows it and every Pro gamer GG's So I'm sorry but this response is all defensive and you did not read my post or take the time to visite the Liquipedia link.
Addressing several points
Your post is arrogance as shown in the language you use don't try to deny it you even confirm it with the ending of the post but none the less why would I follow the liquipedia link if you're analogy and as a result overall post is bad.
I believe in Brood War or at least Kespa rules if you dont GG you get banned or something
Why are you in this thread? What did you expect your post to achieve? Were you expecting Idra to come here read the link and change his ways?
Your Tiger Woods analogy is silly because Golf is a game of concentration. Idra is behind a moniter not typing 2 letters I'm glad that you compare someone sitting behind a computer with someone shouting swearing and getting in opponent's faces
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On February 13 2012 22:23 LorD_AreS wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 22:18 Denzil wrote:On February 13 2012 22:12 LorD_AreS wrote:On February 13 2012 17:21 BlondeOna wrote:
IdrA never gg's in showmatches, team leagues or casual games. And I 100% agree with this. There's just no need to. The term has surpassed it's literal meaning, if it wasn't a GOOD GAME then he doesn't need to say it.
Don't get all riled up over this now, IdrA has never GG'd in somewhat meaningless things like this.
Any true IdrA fan knows he tilts hard, always has and always will, and any true IdrA fan is disappointed in IdrA 95% of the time, and they want him to succeed, and he wants himself to succeed. That's why we sit and wait for that tournament he absolutely destroys (MLG) and makes us all proud.
Also, being IdrA, you would just get to the point where you've faced so many all-ins because most players are more than likely hesitant to go against you in a macro game (especially ZvT) that you just can't justify a gg.
I was waiting for you to post this, your probably the one saying that in the chat during the games. Seriously I don't know how you could be more wrong, there is a gamer etiquette! And Idra just does not bloody respect it that's it. There is NO reason not to, good or bad game being rushed or not it's part of the game, you still need to Good Game in the end. You can read this on Liquipedia http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Gamer_EtiquetteThe etiquette is in every match you say GG a the end for the loosing side. Now I don't know if you played golf before but your logic works in the way that if tiger woods does not have a good game then he should not follow golf etiquette.. he should then walk around with boots and starts swearing a screaming when other players are playing... NO there's a golf etiquette to follow for a reason same for gamers and it's there for the respect of other players and the people watching, not to do only if the game is a good game. I don't care if it's idra or any other players. My post is not about the situation on nasl directly it's just a response to your post. GG This isn't Brood War. You don't get banned for not GGing Stop acting arrogant and understand the context of his post before you attempt to imply rules that don't exist on someone who hasn't followed them for years. I'm not acting arrogant I'm stating facts, funny to say it's not brood war... ok but this talk about starcraft 2. And also the "hasn't followed them for years" no everyone follows it and every Pro gamer GG's So I'm sorry but this response is all defensive and you did not read my post or take the time to visite the Liquipedia link.
I did read your post and looked at the Wiki link - an arbitrary collection of actions that's supposed to dictate what is/not manner. It being written in a Wiki page does not make it more true.
Why are you in IdrA's fanclub? You are obviously not a fan.
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On February 13 2012 22:23 LorD_AreS wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 13 2012 22:18 Denzil wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 22:12 LorD_AreS wrote:On February 13 2012 17:21 BlondeOna wrote:
IdrA never gg's in showmatches, team leagues or casual games. And I 100% agree with this. There's just no need to. The term has surpassed it's literal meaning, if it wasn't a GOOD GAME then he doesn't need to say it.
Don't get all riled up over this now, IdrA has never GG'd in somewhat meaningless things like this.
Any true IdrA fan knows he tilts hard, always has and always will, and any true IdrA fan is disappointed in IdrA 95% of the time, and they want him to succeed, and he wants himself to succeed. That's why we sit and wait for that tournament he absolutely destroys (MLG) and makes us all proud.
Also, being IdrA, you would just get to the point where you've faced so many all-ins because most players are more than likely hesitant to go against you in a macro game (especially ZvT) that you just can't justify a gg.
I was waiting for you to post this, your probably the one saying that in the chat during the games. Seriously I don't know how you could be more wrong, there is a gamer etiquette! And Idra just does not bloody respect it that's it. There is NO reason not to, good or bad game being rushed or not it's part of the game, you still need to Good Game in the end. You can read this on Liquipedia http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Gamer_EtiquetteThe etiquette is in every match you say GG a the end for the loosing side. Now I don't know if you played golf before but your logic works in the way that if tiger woods does not have a good game then he should not follow golf etiquette.. he should then walk around with boots and starts swearing a screaming when other players are playing... NO there's a golf etiquette to follow for a reason same for gamers and it's there for the respect of other players and the people watching, not to do only if the game is a good game. I don't care if it's idra or any other players. My post is not about the situation on nasl directly it's just a response to your post. GG This isn't Brood War. You don't get banned for not GGing Stop acting arrogant and understand the context of his post before you attempt to imply rules that don't exist on someone who hasn't followed them for years. I'm not acting arrogant I'm stating facts, funny to say it's not brood war... ok but this talk about starcraft 2. And also the "hasn't followed them for years" no everyone follows it and every Pro gamer GG's So I'm sorry but this response is all defensive and you did not read my post or take the time to visit the Liquipedia link.
While there have been numerous sad, flailing attempts at argument in the last several posts here, this one has to be my favorite.
"Hey bro, I am just stating FACTS about what the right thing to do is." *wiki ettiquette link*
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I was not arrogant and the end ofmy post, the end was GG since my hole post is about that I thought that adding it would make it less like i'm attacking. But guess thats out of the question. Etiquette in a sport is important and shows respect to other players. You all say you want E sports to be respected as a sport, it's starts with respecting players and the etiquette. If you don't believe in it then I guess the other progamers just look silly saying GG a the end of the games....
The analogy with golf is not silly both are sports and both need players to play...
By the way I never said that I hate Idra or how he plays just that he's the only one who does not follow the GG thing. Sorry if this was or looked arrogant. Let's just say that it's my opinion then. And i'm allowed to post it.
Have a great day all.
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This flame war is pretty depressing. I was kinda looking forward to the vs alive match, but now when i've seen it I'm like meh okay. Are people really this pissed off about this? He is probably practicing really hard at the slayers house and obviously is kinda less relaxed compared to what he was back in the states so he's gonna quit faster matches that aren't important for him personally. If he isn't frustrated or tired he isn't practicing hard enough.
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Idra will never win anything. If he stopped getting invited we would never see him anywhere. He has realized long ago that the best way for him to be famous is to be bad mannered, it makes him stand out.
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Trolls gunna troll
He never wins IEM +IPL or anything
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My guess is that he doesn't want to play these show matches at all. He just would like to train in Korea in peace, but it bet that EG forces him to play these matches, money talks. Don't know if this is true, but seems like he has 0% of interest in these couple of show matches
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I wonder how much longer Idra will be playing for EG. His performance last night against Alive was straight up shameful and I've noticed its only part of the bigger picture.
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Not GGing is the equivalent of losing a tennis match, shaking your opponents hand but not saying 'good game'. Thats how stupid the term is sometimes. I gg every game because I feel like my opponent outsmarted me most of the time when he cheeses, or beat me in a straight up management game. However, there is no reason to enforce the gg, because someone shouldn't be forced to say something after a loss.
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Seriously he was up against ALIVE in a publicized match for $$$. WHat kind of progamer does not try his best in that situation? Sort of disrespectful to ALive but WAY WAY disrespectful to the community. Idra should be trying his hardest when he is up against the very best sc2 has to offer.
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